wrestlers that should be main eventing instead of the usual lame assclowns

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Its so difficult to be a main eventer. A lot of guys have talent, but would I trust them to draw me money? Probably not. A guy like Matt Hardy is like that. I think he's a very good worker, understands the business, but I dont think he has the charisma to hold down a main event spot. Jeff on the other hand, is less polished, and way more unreliable, but for whatever reason he really connects with the fans. So I would say he should be up there.

I don't know about that, actually. It's good to see you making an appearance, by the way.

Matt Hardy's "Sensei of Mattitude" run really helped him overtake Jeff Hardy in almost every area. He was the better wrestler, the more reliable one, better on the mic, and if I remember, everyone loved the gimmick. It was good enough that the WWE moved Matt to RAW, turned him face, and fucked it up. I mean, if the WWE fucks it up, you know it's a good thing.

Also, there was that 2005 thing I mentioned, when Matt Hardy was the hottest topic in pro-wrestling. It's not like he only gets lukewarm reactions, either. The man gets far better reactions than he should, given how much the WWE has beaten him down on occasion. I mean, Jeff was a fireball earlier this year, and Matt isn't at that stage right now, but given some momentum and the WWE not fucking up a hot storyline with him, I don't see why he couldn't become the same.

I get what you're saying about Jeff Hardy, though. He was the "wackier" of the two, and his flipping off shit and odd style earned him a fan-base for life, and higher pitched squeals when he removes his shirt. I don't think there is a very large gap of popularity between the two, though.

Jeff gets in front because he flipped off more shit, and that gets people over. Then he fucks up, and the good brother again becomes the star pupil, and does really well for himself, until something fucks him up, and then Jeff flips off more shit.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Noid I don't know about that, actually. It's good to see you making an appearance, by the way. Matt Hardy's "Sensei of Mattitude" run really helped him overtake Jeff Hardy in almost every area. He was the better wrestler, the more reliable one, better on the mic, and if I remember, everyone loved the gimmick. It was good enough that the WWE moved Matt to RAW, turned him face, and fucked it up. I mean, if the WWE fucks it up, you know it's a good thing. Also, there was that 2005 thing I mentioned, when Matt Hardy was the hottest topic in pro-wrestling. It's not like he only gets lukewarm reactions, either. The man gets far better reactions than he should, given how much the WWE has beaten him down on occasion. I mean, Jeff was a fireball earlier this year, and Matt isn't at that stage right now, but given some momentum and the WWE not fucking up a hot storyline with him, I don't see why he couldn't become the same. I get what you're saying about Jeff Hardy, though. He was the "wackier" of the two, and his flipping off shit and odd style earned him a fan-base for life, and higher pitched squeals when he removes his shirt. I don't think there is a very large gap of popularity between the two, though. Jeff gets in front because he flipped off more shit, and that gets people over. Then he fucks up, and the good brother again becomes the star pupil, and does really well for himself, until something fucks him up, and then Jeff flips off more shit.

Dont get me wrong, I like Matt, there's just something about him that doesnt work for me.

I remember after they decided to go forward with the Edge program, I thought he might have a ton of steam behind him. And even though the WWE did very little to take advantage of the sympathy he had, he still came across to me as #2 against Edge. And I'm not even talking about who got the better of matches and stuff, I just thought Edge did his job better than Matt.

Now, I hear a lot of good things about the program with him and MVP, but I havent seen any of it to say one way or the other. I can say though, that when I see MVP, I see another guy who has the star aura, and I could see him headlining.

Its wierd, some guys are just not cut out to be headliners. They are great workers, great at everything they do, but they cant get over that last hurdle. Thats how I personally see Matt.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Dont get me wrong, I like Matt, there's just something about him that doesnt work for me. I remember after they decided to go forward with the Edge program, I thought he might have a ton of steam behind him. And even though the WWE did very little to take advantage of the sympathy he had, he still came across to me as #2 against Edge. And I'm not even talking about who got the better of matches and stuff, I just thought Edge did his job better than Matt. Now, I hear a lot of good things about the program with him and MVP, but I havent seen any of it to say one way or the other. I can say though, that when I see MVP, I see another guy who has the star aura, and I could see him headlining. Its wierd, some guys are just not cut out to be headliners. They are great workers, great at everything they do, but they cant get over that last hurdle. Thats how I personally see Matt.

That's fair enough, but I disagree with your interpretation. I think Matt Hardy looked like the star until the WWE squashed all his momentum at Summerslam. It was honestly one of the shittiest booking decisions the WWE could have made in the situation. Matt Hardy should have pummeled Edge into a pulp, getting himself disqualified, but getting the satisfying moral victory, and as a lead-up to the Steel Cage Match between the two.

You did make mention of that WWE not taking true advantage of the situation, but I think that is the only reason it didn't work. Matt Hardy was a sensation at the time, and if capitilsed on, it could have been a lot more successful.

I do get what you mean about Matt seeming like a mid-carder, though. I don't think Hardy should be limited, but I can understand how one would look at it that way. He's a former tag team guy, he doesn't have an epic frame to him, and he's not a genius on the mic. He's grown from nothing, and it's expected that most guys only grow so far.