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Old 06-15-2008, 03:44 PM   #1
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yea, Foley and Taker never planned on even going up. It was pretty much ad-libed
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:09 PM   #2
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yea, Foley and Taker never planned on even going up. It was pretty much ad-libed
Which is why Terry Funk has continually taken credit for coming up with the idea for the bump the day before, and telling Foley about it? Or how about the fact that Foley has recounted several times how the Undertaker tried to convince him not to go through with it before the match?

There's never been any real doubt that the bump was planned. It is the mysterious second bump which is often disputed ('was it planned or an accident?). I say it was set up, but then I don't know.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:29 PM   #3
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Which is why Terry Funk has continually taken credit for coming up with the idea for the bump the day before, and telling Foley about it?
I invented the internet. See how easy that is?

While I'm at it, I am responsible for the Attitude Era, I created ECW but gave credit to Paul Heyman (Mostly because he let me use his basement) I put the needle in Benoit's arm, and I actually bought Nick Hogan's beer.

Now, I'd address the rest, but the notion that Foley has said Taker tried to dissuade him is a new one to me.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:33 PM   #4
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I invented the internet. See how easy that is?

While I'm at it, I am responsible for the Attitude Era, I created ECW but gave credit to Paul Heyman (Mostly because he let me use his basement) I put the needle in Benoit's arm, and I actually bought Nick Hogan's beer.

Now, I'd address the rest, but the notion that Foley has said Taker tried to dissuade him is a new one to me.
Yeah, well I screwed Bret. I win.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:39 PM   #5
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Now, I'd address the rest, but the notion that Foley has said Taker tried to dissuade him is a new one to me.
Pretty sure that was in his first book. I've definitely read Foley saying that a couple times, can't be 100% sure where exactly, but Have A Nice Day sounds about right.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:56 PM   #6
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yea, Foley and Taker never planned on even going up. It was pretty much ad-libed
Wasn't Taker already half way down the cage when Foley was getting off the stretcher?
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #7
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yea, Foley and Taker never planned on even going up. It was pretty much ad-libed

Foley and Taker agreed that to top the original hell in a cell match, a good way to start it would be on the top of the cage, and also with a huge spot. The start was planned with him throwing Foley off the top. It then would have wound up in the cell or whatever.

However, as we know that first fall was a lot further than they thought it would be, and he landed badly. After being knocked out, he impulsively went back up there to restart the match up on top where it was supposed to start.

As you could see early on, the roof of the cage wasn't supporting the weight of the two sizely men. The cell had never been traveled to the top of, so it wasn't engineered for that. They had no clue it would be so vulnerable. As you can see a few times they almost go through on their own weight and begin to use careful footing on the structural beams instead of the chainlink panels.

The chokeslam, which was pretty dumb of them (especially the conscious taker) knowing the weakness of the cell just from their own weight, naturally broke the cage material and he fell unexpectedly to the mat.

And in response to whoever said it was rigged with hinges, you are wrong. The future hell in a cells that used the same spot were hinged. This one was purely an accident, and as you can see the cage rips and doesnt do so very neatly.
It appears the cage was attached to the structure with twist ties, probably metal ones.
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:52 AM   #8
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The cell had never been traveled to the top of, so it wasn't engineered for that.
Firstly, this was only the second Hell In A Cell match anyway. And secondly, Taker and HBK battled atop the cage during the first one, so you're wrong on that count.
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