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Old 06-15-2008, 10:26 PM   #1
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Cena "spoiler"
Speaking of the draft (and this is a MAJOR spoiler that I haven't yet touched on), the word is John Cena is definitely headed to WWE SmackDown!. I'm going to have an EXCLUSIVE update on WrestleZone Radio this Tuesday night at 9EST. This is the last time you'll hear of this big story until the radio show on Tuesday night so ya' better listen!


Please god let this be true . Cena on Raw = Blah

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Old 06-15-2008, 10:28 PM   #2
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Wow, Cena's getting demoted to Smackdown?

He and his family will be dead within a week.
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Wait a minute, YOU'RE BOONE!?
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Wait a minute, YOU'RE BOONE!?
That would explain a lot.
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thank fuking god if this is true, Cena free monday's =
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This would be a very good move. I've been saying that for ages. And I am a fan of SmackDown!, so it's not because it would mean "Cena-free RAWs."

The positives of moving John Cena to SmackDown!:

1. The MyNetwork TV move
John Cena is pretty much considered the biggest star in the WWE, even though he has seemingly been less the main focus of WWE programming on RAW recently. Moving Cena to SmackDown! in time for the move to their new home serves a double-purpose. First of all, it puts a big star on SmackDown!, which will make the show's advertising a lot easier, and it also serves as a big fuck you to the CW Network. "You get rid of us, well we'll just start trying when we're going elsewhere."

Triple H or Shawn Michaels would be other examples of stars they could move, but it has been reported quite thoroughly that these two men are very comfortable on RAW, and won't agree to the move. John Cena has been a company man that would do whatever is asked of him. If he were asked to go to SmackDown!, Cena would do so and he'd do it with gusto, I believe.

2. The show is taped
A live crowd will always mean boos for Cena, unless they change something dramatically. The WWE are probably not going to do that, and even then, it's a gamble. Cena being on SmackDown! means he will be on a taped show, where the WWE can at least edit out the boos, and replace them with cheers. It's dishonest, but it's a possibility. A lot of the Cena heat has been a growing thing since it began. People boo, people hear others booing, people are like "well, he does suck, so I'll join in." When booing Cena becomes futile, because the WWE doesn't let the heat filter through, people may stop doing it.

3. SmackDown! is the "wrestling show"
John Cena does not suck in the ring. In OVW, and when he debuted on SmackDown!, wrestling was actually his strong point. People used to say "he's good in the ring, but he needs personality." Funny, huh? Matches are generally longer on SmackDown!, with shit rarely going for three minutes. This is a positive, because it may encourage Cena to go back to using that technical style a lot more, and actually putting on a good show. A lot of smarks would see his work, agree that he has "improved," and the dislike of him would slowly subside.

Combine that element with #2, and you've got the anti-Cena heat dying down quite a bit. This is assuming they don't just move Cena over to SmackDown! and change the show to be CenaJohn!.

4. Michael Hayes is the writer
He is a wrestler's writer. Let's hope he doesn't right Cena's dialog, or else the wigger shit will start coming back, and Mark Henry will go cry, but Hayes is generally has more understanding of the business than say, Brian Gerwitz. I'm sure Hayes would not force Cena as much, would let him write his own promos, encourage him to become more of a human character, and something that wrestling fans can relate to. He'll also put Cena in the ring with guys who can get the best out of Cena, and not just "monsters of the month.

5. He's doing pretty much fuck all on RAW
Recently it's seemed like Cena is more a supporting player than he used to be. He's not in a "real feud." His stuff with JBL felt thrown together because they needed both main event guys to do something. The main event has been focused on Triple H and Randy Orton, and with Shawn Michaels still around on RAW, Chris Jericho with a new heel character, Mr. Kennedy with a new face charcter, and Jeff Hardy seemingly still with internal support, it's going to be a bit of a mess. It's seem like Cena's time on RAW is up, and his time somewhere else is now.

6. It'd be a big move
The draft needs some big moves to make it seem like a real "shake-up." This can be hard to do, especially with the main event being such a focus that no one cares about the mid-card, so moving Carlito will likely get crickets, instead of the positive/negative reaction from the crowd it should. You've also got these same main event players sticking their heels into the ground, and refusing to move. John Cena moving to SmackDown! is a move that would definitely shock people, be felt on each show, and be possible without upsetting egos.
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John Cena chasing after the World Heavyweight Championship is also fresher than John Cena chasing after the World Heavyweight Championship. You know, considering Cena has never won the big gold belt. Let's just hope he doesn't alter the belt when he wins it. That would show a huge maturing of the character, and would be a visual that might subconsciously calm down the heat on Cena.

Then we can change back the WWE Championship, and have two respectably looking belts representing World Titles.

The only negative I can think of with moving Cena, is that RAW loses the "franchise player" of the WWE. Then there are those who will feel the purity of SmackDown! is ruined by having Cena on it, but even though it may be an adjustment, I think Cena will eventually fit into SmackDown!, and not vice versa.
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The draft is before the PPV lets all hope with the Cena move . Jeff Hardy moves into his spot as he does have a victory over the wwe champ
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Old 06-16-2008, 05:40 AM   #10
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What are the bets Batista, Undertaker, Edge and MVP all move to RAW to balance things out?
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So the way to 'show' CW network is to give them a big fuck you and say now we are going to try? I bet CW are probably feeling vindicated in their decision.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Jeff Hardy on smackdown.
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You know, considering Cena has never won the big gold belt. Let's just hope he doesn't alter the belt when he wins it.
WWE would probably change it if that happens
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:33 AM   #16
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Well, maybe they will send Edge to Raw and Cena with the belt on SmackDown. But props to SmackDown if they do pick him up.
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Dunno.

1) Do we really need to have Cena get the strap right now?
2) double title draft has been done already.
3) Edge and Cena have really great chemestry and that could be your M.E. fued whilst Taker is gone.,..

Dunno
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Yes the double title draft has been done before, but so has Cena and Edge. But yeah, who knows?
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Yeah I know, also I in no way beleive this to be true.

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I'm of the opinion that if WWE/ Vince actually wanted to do more then just sell Cena T-shirts and action figures, they would have cashed in on a potential massive heel turn for Cena by now. But there product is stale. There ratings are dropping and Cena merchandise to the marks = way too much of a cash cow to wanna turn him heel and risk losing money.
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Cena is NOT going to Smackdown. For a start, he is main eventing Summerslam against Triple-H.
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LOL I can't believe you tards are actually believing this.
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Well, maybe they will send Edge to Raw and Cena with the belt on SmackDown. But props to SmackDown if they do pick him up.
So they're going to take a guy who can't get over as a face and trade him for a guy who can't get over as a heel?

Keep Edge on Smackdown. He needs the edited crowds.

But Cena's not moving. Really. They're not going to take the big merch mover off the show people still watch. 15 people, mind...
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3. SmackDown! is the "wrestling show"
John Cena does not suck in the ring. In OVW, and when he debuted on SmackDown!, wrestling was actually his strong point. People used to say "he's good in the ring, but he needs personality." Funny, huh? Matches are generally longer on SmackDown!, with shit rarely going for three minutes. This is a positive, because it may encourage Cena to go back to using that technical style a lot more, and actually putting on a good show. A lot of smarks would see his work, agree that he has "improved," and the dislike of him would slowly subside.

Combine that element with #2, and you've got the anti-Cena heat dying down quite a bit. This is assuming they don't just move Cena over to SmackDown! and change the show to be CenaJohn!.
See, that's the problem right there. It's assuming that they won't do what they most certainly will do (Or, I should say, would, if they actually would move Cena off the fagship show***). That's kind of like saying "Assuming this shark doesn't pick up on my blood in the water and turn me into fish food, I should be able to ride it back to shore."

Besides, majority opinion of Cena isn't going to change unless he is radically booked different, not just "unless he wrestles more." Ignoring the fact that the "Wrestling Show" features ME guys who don't do a lot of wrestling as their big stars (Taker puts on a good show when he wants to, but mostly doesn't, and almost never wrestles on TV, Bats isn't exactly known for being a ring technician), Cena is mostly getting booed for the way he's booked: Bland, babyface, SuperCena, who comes out on top no matter what, makes shitty jokes, and who is treated like his shit don't stink.

They're not going to change that on Smackdown for the same reason they haven't changed it on Raw. They think that the benefits of merchandise outweigh the detriment of lower ratings, buyrates, and more fans booing. And they're right--In the short term at the very least. And I doubt that most smarktards are going to change their opinion as long as the phrase "SPOILER: CENA WINS" still applies.

Cena could be over with the Main Event "5 moves of doom," But his matches have to be entertaining for that to happen. Which means they have to rebook him. Which means they have to change the formula they think is making him money (Cena could be changed and still marketed to kids, but hey...), they have to reconize there's a problem, and they have to know the solution. Of those last two, they've isolated the problem, but as you can easily see, they cannot save their flagship show's ratings...So there's no reason they'd pick the right choice with Cena.

And that's still assuming they'd actually move him, which kind of flies in the face of all things we know are probable. We'd be as likely to see Triple H moved to Smackdown. You know, legit, instead of some swerve where half the locker room is traded to get him back to Raw.



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That would be like Triple H wanting to move to SmackDown!...

As long as RAW is the flagship Vince would NEVER move his top star anywhere else.

Would it be good for SmackDown!? Of course. But it won't happen.

Thing is, I'd probably start watching SmackDown! if Hunter moved there, but again, won't happen.
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You guys are forgetting something.

Suppose this is HHH's idea, and he wants Cena off his show.

Puts things in a different light, eh?
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I'm not expecting it to happen, per se, but I'm not going to be surprised if it does. Cena does whatever is asked of him. The company is not going to have a hard time convincing him to head over, ala Triple H.

I think the biggest thing going against this happening, is actually RAW doing shit in the ratings. Vince probably won't ship away any major stars, and just import the ones he can without leaving SmackDown!/ECW with Funaki main eventing.
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You guys are forgetting something.

Suppose this is HHH's idea, and he wants Cena off his show.

Puts things in a different light, eh?
Not really, no.
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In terms of it being possible, not in terms of it being any good.
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Speaking of the draft (and this is a MAJOR spoiler that I haven't yet touched on), the word is John Cena is definitely headed to WWE SmackDown!. I'm going to have an EXCLUSIVE update on WrestleZone Radio this Tuesday night at 9EST. This is the last time you'll hear of this big story until the radio show on Tuesday night so ya' better listen!


Please god let this be true . Cena on Raw = Blah
Whether people want to admit it or not, John Cena is the biggest name in the WWE right now. Since RAW is the 'flagship' of the WWE, it would be a STUPID move on the WWE's part to send Cena to Smackdown. However - I would like to Dave Batista and Undertaker move to RAW. Umaga and someone like Jeff Hardy can move to Smackdown (both men of which will be serious main-eventers on that show).

I'd also like ECW to be dropped once and for all, but I doubt that will happen.
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John Cena has been moved back, though. Quite dramatically. I'd never have expected the man to lose at WrestleMania, but not only that, he took the pin. Focus was definitely on Triple H and Randy Orton. Then William Regal got a bit of a push, and I think that Triple H was settled on feuding with Regal over the WWE Title, and possibly even dropping it to him, and doing an Austin/McMahon thing with Regal's power and Triple H's chase for the title.

I don't really think Cena fits into any of the WWE's biggest plans. Cena challenging for the WWE Championship now feels like a decision based on convenience more than anything. Plus, it has been foreshadowed by Cena himself that one of them could be drafted away.

Cena no longer feels like the WWE's "biggest star," and they've seemingly accepted (somewhat) that they are pushing him too hard. I'm not saying he will go to SmackDown!, but I don't think it is impossible.

Also, KK, I agreed with you at first, but now all reports indicate that Edge is actually very over as a heel. You're wrong about the edited crowd.
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John Cena has been moved back, though. Quite dramatically. I'd never have expected the man to lose at WrestleMania, but not only that, he took the pin. Focus was definitely on Triple H and Randy Orton. Then William Regal got a bit of a push, and I think that Triple H was settled on feuding with Regal over the WWE Title, and possibly even dropping it to him, and doing an Austin/McMahon thing with Regal's power and Triple H's chase for the title.

I don't really think Cena fits into any of the WWE's biggest plans. Cena challenging for the WWE Championship now feels like a decision based on convenience more than anything. Plus, it has been foreshadowed by Cena himself that one of them could be drafted away.

Cena no longer feels like the WWE's "biggest star," and they've seemingly accepted (somewhat) that they are pushing him too hard. I'm not saying he will go to SmackDown!, but I don't think it is impossible.

Also, KK, I agreed with you at first, but now all reports indicate that Edge is actually very over as a heel. You're wrong about the edited crowd.
You're aware that he's filming a movie at the moment, right?

It's not so much as they want to shift the focus from him (which they shouldn't) but he can't keep up a 100% full main event schedule AND film a movie at the same time.

I'm sure he'll be back at the very top by the beginning of the build to SummerSlam.
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