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Old 07-04-2008, 05:31 PM   #41
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:46 PM   #42
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I think it's just bad timing for The Rock right now, what with his father last year, I'd say book it for Miami, and do him next year, the timing for Austin is perfect.

Are we ever gonna see a fully active for years to come wrestler in there? - Taker / HHH? - Flair was in but retired the next day.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:03 PM   #43
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:12 PM   #44
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Taker will probably have to actually be dead before he goes in. To protect the gimmick and all.
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The Rock deserves to go in the Hall of Fame. He's only made the WWE a bunch of money, put on some classic matches (from an entertainment perspective more than a wrestling perspective), and is one of the few wrestlers to actually crack it into the mainstream. Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock -- to say any of those men don't deserve it is idiocy.

That being said, I wouldn't put The Rock in next year. Stone Cold gets a yes from me, but not The Rock. It's not that it's too early either (the man's career is done), but putting Austin and Rock in the same year is basically kissing a boatload of cash goodbye. Save The Rock for a future event.

I also wouldn't go with making all the inductees Texan, or famous for their contributions to the Texas scene, specifically. I wouldn't mind some, but Owen Hart going in, for example, would help balance things out.

I'd go with Ricky Steamboat (that man is long overdue), Stone Cold Steve Austin, Ted DiBiase, Owen Hart, Gory Guerrero, Terry Funk, the Von Erichs that deserve it, and maybe Mike Tyson to the celebrity wing. The Freebirds could be saved for a future year, dare I say it, although them going in would not get any complaints from me.
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Actually, I could see the WWE doing a double-header and putting both Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Undertaker in this year. And also having a "Texas-sized class," for the silver anniversary of WrestleMania.
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:16 AM   #47
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The Rock is already in the fucking Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame, something 90% of the WWE Hall of Fame will never be in.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:12 PM   #48
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Bret will induct undertaker. Vince should Austin. Ric flair will induct michaels. HHH will induct himself. oh and spoiler Cena overcomes the odds and is the main inductee.
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Haven't seen that reported. Searched for it as well.

Nothing to do with a DVD that was coming out shortly after either.

I hope he proves me wrong and inducts Austin, like he should.

Do you think he will Rob?
You haven't searched hard enough then. Email Meltzer, Bryan Alvarez or one of the PW Insider guys if you don't believe it.

I don't think he'll induct Austin purely because I don't think they'll ask him to do it. If they asked him, he'd do it for sure.


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The fuck? I think you're the stupid one for coming in here and adding absolutely nothing of substance to this discussion. GTFO
I don't argue with fucking idiots who think one of the top 3 biggest stars in pro wrestling history doesn't deserve in a Hall of Fame.
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Just a thought, people seem to put WAY too much stock into the WON Hall of Fame. The Rock being in it should not be used as a legit argument of why he should be in the WWE Hall of Fame.

Granted, nothing at all should be used as an argument as to why Rock should be in because it's a retarded argument to have but still...
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Old 07-05-2008, 02:55 PM   #51
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I just meant that it is far more difficult to be inducted into the WON Hall, since it is decided by smarks who actually have voting and stuff, whereas the WWE Hall of Fame will induct people just to get their son to make an appearance at the ceremony (Rock's father) and celebrities. If Rock can get into the WON Hall of Fame, then he should be in the WWE Hall of Fame (which he should be regardless). The only argument against him is "he left too soon." That is pretty pathetic IMO, since it's about impact, not the amount of time you've been in the WWE. I don't even know why we're arguing this, it was either a piss-take or quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read from the IWC. Now that is saying something...
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:41 AM   #52
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Just a thought, people seem to put WAY too much stock into the WON Hall of Fame. The Rock being in it should not be used as a legit argument of why he should be in the WWE Hall of Fame.
You're kidding me right?

The WON Hall of Fame has a history. Legit wrestlers current and past, reporters and historians vote on it. It also has a bunch of guys in it that should be in every wrestling Hall of Fame and yet WWE decides to ignore them.

It has it's faults too but I know which one I take more serious.
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I'd love to hear the argument for Bret Hart being in the WWE Hall of Fame but not The Rock.
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hey guys bobby orr shouldnt b in the hockey hall of fame he only played like 10 years lol.
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I'd love to hear the argument for Bret Hart being in the WWE Hall of Fame but not The Rock.
I'd like to hear the argument for everyone except Hogan and Austin in the HOF and not The Rock.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:43 PM   #56
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I don't argue with fucking idiots who think one of the top 3 biggest stars in pro wrestling history doesn't deserve in a Hall of Fame.
So thinking it's too soon for Austin to be inducted automatically means that I don't think he deserves it all?? If you would've taken the time to read my post, you would know that I never made such indication. C'mon now and I'm the idiot right?
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3. Randy Savage: In his prime, he was a walking match of the night. Too bad he fooled around with Stephanie, YEAH!
Has there ever been any evidence to this? I hear it all the time but I've never heard anyone in the buisness mention it. Curious.

Anywho. I think the WWE is jumping the gub putting all of these big names in so soon. It seems like at this rate they will run out of people to "main event" there HoF in a decade.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:37 PM   #58
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Seriously, how is Kamala not in? HE SLAMMED ANDRE!!!
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shut the fuck up Juan. Rob wasn't even arguing with you. what the hell are you even talking about? all his comments about that are directed towards 450. can you even read?
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Also, The Rock and Owen Hart do not belong in the Hall of Fame.
The Rock was a huge draw, don't get me wrong, and it seemed he had no problems passing the title (since he never held the WWE title for more than 4 months) but the guy was in the industry for less than 10 years. He found a way to make more money with less work. I'm not going to knock him for getting a bigger payday for less work, but as a wrestler, I think The Brooklyn Brawler is above him on the Hall of Fame list.
As of Owen.... He could have been great. He could have been a world champion, no problem. However, he didn't have the chance to do all of that. I don't want to put someone's potential in the Hall of Fame. If Owen goes, so does Mike Awesome, Mass Transit, Bryan Adams, and Chris Benoit.
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Rock doesn't belong? So the greatest performer in the history of the business shouldnt be in there? That would be like having a baseball Hall of Fame without Pete Rose, it would be meaningless.
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You're kidding me right?

The WON Hall of Fame has a history. Legit wrestlers current and past, reporters and historians vote on it. It also has a bunch of guys in it that should be in every wrestling Hall of Fame and yet WWE decides to ignore them.

It has it's faults too but I know which one I take more serious.
I'm not trying to say it is less legit than the WWE HoF cause it certainly isn't. I'm just saying it's not this be all, end all list that should be used as leverage in arguments. It does indeed have it's flaws, guys going in too early to be specific. And as for "history", it's been around since '96. Not sure what kind of history it's built. WWE's has been around longer. I just find it funny how people jumped on Rock being in THAT HoF as a reason he should be in WWE's.
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Has there ever been any evidence to this? I hear it all the time but I've never heard anyone in the buisness mention it. Curious.
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So thinking it's too soon for Austin to be inducted automatically means that I don't think he deserves it all?? If you would've taken the time to read my post, you would know that I never made such indication. C'mon now and I'm the idiot right?
1 - I wasn't even talking about you.

2 - Too early for Austin? The guy is in his 40's and has been retired for years. How the fuck is it too early?

3 - He should be in regardless.

4 - Some fucking idiot on here said that Steve Lombardi should be in the Hall of Fame before Dwayne Johnson. Fucking IDIOT! And he also mentioned that Chris Benoit should be in before Owen Hart. Actually he mentioned Benoit should be in period. Maybe he should put over the Benoit case when he is collecting his cheque from Vince McMahon. Fucking IDIOT!.
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Its the perfect time for Austin. Silver anniversary of Mania, in Texas. Cant imagine a better spot.

I would save Rock for maybe the next Wrestlemania in LA or 30 whichever comes first.

Anyone who says Rock shouldnt be in must be a gimmick poster. Honestly, even if you dont think he's the greatest, or didnt care for his act, numbers dont lie, and he was money in the bank.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:24 PM   #68
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Savage never was confirmed to have anything to do with Steph. It's been an internet rumor for years and it's ridiculous. the end
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It's always been my take on it. WOuld love for someone to find something that points to this things legitimacy.
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I know it's JR and everything, but I still find it amazing that he wrote: "In no particular order: Steve Austin..."
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He wasn't the only one. Apparently she was quite the wild child.
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He wasn't the only one. Apparently she was quite the wild child.
Until she met the greatest wrestler of all time...TRIPLE H!
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If Austin goes in . Which in all likely hood he will. I guarantee you JR will induct him . The only reason Austin inducted Bret was basically thier was no one else Brother Dead Father Dead Brother in-law Dead Pillman Dead. The only guys on the WWE roster that were around when bret was thier and that bret had any connection to is Taker Michaels HHH Vince and Austin .
Taker - Never the gimmick is too important to vince
HHH Shawn and Vince - YEAH RIGHT!!!

The only other person who possibly could have done it was Anvil.


So my Predictions are Austin will go in with JR inducting him
and if Owen goes in Bret will induct him im sure
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so when does rude go in?
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Solid list.

I'd like to add Stan the mother fucking Lariat Hansen to the list.

Good call on whoever mentioned Brody.
Forget it. This is the WWE Hall of Fame. Okay, they're inducting guys nowadays who didn't have a great career in New York, or even not at all, but that list features only one "WWE name" (Austin) and a couple of other names WWE fans would be familiar with (Hayes and Kerry Von Erich). It would alienate the WWE audience too much.

You can probably expect more mainstream names, such as DiBiase, Martel, Steamboat, Anderson or Jake Roberts for example, to get in with these lesser known guys making up the numbers.
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As of Owen.... He could have been great. He could have been a world champion, no problem.
Firstly, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference whether or not a promoter gave you the fake title of Champion as to whether or not you should be in the Hall of Fame. Many terrible performers have been given that nod; many superlative workers have not.

Secondly, Owen could have been great? Try telling that to his colleagues and wrestling fans in the late 80s and early 90s when he was largely considered the best wrestling performer in the world. Even when the knee injury slowed him down when he returned to the WWF, he still had many top-class encounters with the likes of Bret, Davey Boy, Austin, Ramon and Michaels.
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