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Old 08-27-2008, 10:34 PM   #1
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Foley to TNA all but confirmed
I know there was a thread on this before, but I'm too lazy to go back and find it.

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TNA and Mick Foley have come to an agreement. He will able to debut in TNA as soon he is contractually permitted to. His current contract with WWE expires by September 1.

Spike TV helped TNA in landing the deal with Foley, and he may have a subsidized contract. Foley could end up being involved in other projects with Spike TV.

WWE dropped Foley from television a few weeks ago after they found he was unhappy with his status in the company and likely not renewing his contract.

There was a lot of buzz among the wrestlers in the locker room this past, but TNA officials are keeping quiet on the situation. Although, they were hopeful that TNA President Dixie Carter would get a deal done with Foley.

The torch is usually pretty accurate and this sounds legitimate. I might actually have to turn into TNA for this. If Foley gets some kind of creative control it will hopefully be great. Also, Kurt Angle vs. Cactus Jack would be amazing.

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TNA is about to get WHORE'D!
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He will able to debut in TNA as soon he is contractually permitted to.
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I don't understand why that's so funny...

Anyways, what's with all of the hate towards Foley? He's one of the best speakers in the business, has a great mind, and he can still put on an incredible match. His little spot with Edge on Smackdown a few weeks ago was the best thing I've seen on SD since like 2002.
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I don't understand why that's so funny...
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:14 PM   #7
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foley is my favorite of all time but i just can't get excited about this.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:19 PM   #8
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foley is my favorite of all time but i just can't get excited about this.
Agreed.

This will do nothing but tarnish Foley's legacy imo
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Pfft. And I suppose you're gunna say goint to TNA tarnished Angles legacy too





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Old 08-27-2008, 11:33 PM   #11
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Why is Foley doing this, i will turn off my tv when he is on now he dropped the ball
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I'm pretty sure that TNA could get the Rock, Steve Austin, HBK, and the Undertaker, and still get a lukewarm response from anyone who's not already a TNA fan (And half of the people who are).
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Instead of paying someone like Foley what I assume would be at least $500k, TNA could, you know, build up their own guys. They have the roster, they just need to not book like morons.

TNA has to realize that if Kurt Fucking Angle didn't do anything for them, NO ONE is going to. They could get get an exclusive contract with Jesus (and no, not Hey-Zues) but they'd book him to the point where no one will care.
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Instead of paying someone like Foley what I assume would be at least $500k, TNA could, you know, build up their own guys. They have the roster, they just need to not book like morons.

TNA has to realize that if Kurt Fucking Angle didn't do anything for them, NO ONE is going to. They could get get an exclusive contract with Jesus (and no, not Hey-Zues) but they'd book him to the point where no one will care.
Or "at the point." I mean, we're not talking Foley at the top of his game, physically or on the stick.
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Replace Don West with Foley and I'm all for it.
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Replace Don West with nails on a blackboard and I'm all for it.
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Replace Don West with Foley and I'm all for it.
yea thats what will help tna, i don't know why tna keeps west so long.
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How did Kurt tarnish his legacy? I have not been watching.
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This is great news for TNA.
Can't wait to see what Foley gets up to
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TNA acquires another WWE guy who's best years are way behind him. Yeah I won't be watching.
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For anyone questioning this move on Foley's part.

Less stress and more money per night, seems like an easy thing for me.

Why are TNA doing it?

Because it will make people like some of you, who don't watch impact, to watch it, at least once to see what happens, some of you may then stick with it.

It's not really that hard to see.

Will Foley at a point to the ratings? No, no one will IMO, it needs to be a slow build based on good TV, that's where they are failing, but if they sort their own shit out it could work.

I don't see Foley wrestling all that much to be honest, with this whole Vets Vs new guys thing going on, I can see him getting involved in all that jazz
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:17 AM   #24
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What exactly is Foley going to be doing for them? He already retired a number of times from the ring. I can't believe they would have done all this just go get him behind the booth.

TNA, where WWE guys go to retire.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:25 AM   #25
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Also, something tells me Foley is hard to work with. Not that he yells or cusses or is a dick head. But he does seem to have an ego and holier than thou attitude. He quit WWE because Vince yelled at him, so what do you think he is going to do when someone is TNA tries to tell him what to do?
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I read the statement as meaning that Foley will debut in TNA at the earliest possible date, and that they won't fuck around and bring him in sometime next year after months and months of negotiations and teasing.

For the life of me, I can't understand the backlash against this signing. So the WWE hires Foley, and everything is peachy in the world, but TNA brings in one of the best talkers and best special occasional workers in the business, and they're fucking idiots? The idea here is to not necessarily boost ratings like it were the Attitude era. It's to get a legitimate legend like Mick Foley working with their talent, and helping to create a more credible looking environment.

Foley doing commentary with Mike Tenay in TNA would be fucking epic. I guess there is some sort of loyalty to Don West, but if the company is going to grow, and I mean really going to grow, they need a professional sounding commentary team. Mike Tenay is there, but Don West most definitely is not.
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Noid, if you don't get why TNA is dumb for giving big money contracts to WWE has beens instead of pushing their own talent, I'm not going to explain it to you.
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No BDC, you see, TNA's first and only thought was to bring him in to improve the talent. It has NOTHING to do with name value and they WON'T be putting him on TV.



-OR-, if Noid meant it another way...

No BDC, you see, TNA's first and only thought was to bring him in to put on awesome matches.



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Old 08-28-2008, 11:00 AM   #29
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That makes even less sense!?!?!?!
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:51 AM   #30
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I agree with what Xero and Kane Knight and the lot are saying. Yes, Foley is an established guy and a great "name" to have. He adds value to the product not just in a TV show, but in marketing as well.

The problem is TNA does not put on a good TV show. Good wrestling? maybe. but good TV? not a prayer. So Foley's value does nothing. TNA had tried countless times to bring in made guys, but it's never panned out. WCW did the same thing 12 years ago and they started killing in the ratings. The difference is WCW had excellent TV back then. They had a ton of big names that they brought in, but they used them correctly

Foley will probably have a great debut just like Angle, just like Christian, just like Sting...but he'll eventually just fizzle out
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:01 PM   #31
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For anyone questioning this move on Foley's part.

Less stress and more money per night, seems like an easy thing for me.

Why are TNA doing it?

Because it will make people like some of you, who don't watch impact, to watch it, at least once to see what happens, some of you may then stick with it.

It's not really that hard to see.

Will Foley at a point to the ratings? No, no one will IMO, it needs to be a slow build based on good TV, that's where they are failing, but if they sort their own shit out it could work.

I don't see Foley wrestling all that much to be honest, with this whole Vets Vs new guys thing going on, I can see him getting involved in all that jazz
Okay, first, yes. I understand why Foley would want it.

The problem is with the rest of it. It's "not that hard to see" that similar moves like this in the past have had a tendency to do sweet fuck all for TNA. Sure, it's probably what they're thinking, but that doesn't mean it will happen. In fact, I'd put heavy odds against it. That's the problem. It may entice a few people, but not enough to justify his price tag, unless he's working for peanuts.

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I read the statement as meaning that Foley will debut in TNA at the earliest possible date, and that they won't fuck around and bring him in sometime next year after months and months of negotiations and teasing.
See, reverse engineering it to make sense, or merely taking the time to interpret something doesn't diminish the face value of the diction used. This is a common device in comedy, from vaudeville to modern comedy. Another example: While it's not hard to understand what George Bush meant when he said "most of our imports come from overseas," It's still a funnily worded statement.

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That makes even less sense!?!?!?!

Duh?
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:58 PM   #32
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Foley doing commentary with Mike Tenay in TNA would be fucking epic. I guess there is some sort of loyalty to Don West, but if the company is going to grow, and I mean really going to grow, they need a professional sounding commentary team. Mike Tenay is there, but Don West most definitely is not.[/QUOTE]

i wonder if they will make it a 3 man crew
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:26 PM   #33
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Why spend that much on just a commentator?
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:34 PM   #34
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Here is the thing that really gets me, they have to subidize a contract to get Foley, who I can guarentee won't be working many, if any matches. Yet they barely put up a fight to keep Gail Kim, one of the people they built the Knock Outs division around, the division that gets the highest ratings lately. The best booked division in all of TNA, and one of the better booked divisions in all of wrestling. They let her go. I know she got her start in WWE, but she was a TNA talent, and they let her walk.

That is why TNA is retarded. Mick is a WWE guy (a bit ECW to, but that doesn't matter). Mick will always be seen as a WWE guy. After he gets done with TNA, he with eventually get in WWE's hall of fame with a foot note about being in TNA. That is what pisses me off. TNA is not about loyalty, it is about quick fixes.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:47 PM   #35
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You can bring in all the talent and names you like. As long as the promotion is called TNA and they have a six-sided ring, it will never sell. The only way Foley will make a difference is if he debuts and forcibly removes two of the ring sides. The next week they can sign somebody else to change the name.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:51 PM   #36
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The name and ring are the least of their worries.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:14 PM   #37
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You can bring in all the talent and names you like. As long as the promotion is called TNA and they have a six-sided ring, it will never sell. The only way Foley will make a difference is if he debuts and forcibly removes two of the ring sides. The next week they can sign somebody else to change the name.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:16 PM   #38
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I seriously don't get why people think the ring is an issue anyway. I mean, it's a bit of a gimmick, but really, who gives a shit how many sides it has at the end of the day. The ring doesn't make them any more or less entertaining, the wrestling any better or worse, or the booking any more or less sensible.

Plus, TNA sounds like T&A, which is probably the best marketing they have going.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:17 PM   #39
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There's one guy who summed up TNA perfectly a few years ago. On an interview with Between the Ropes, AJ Styles was asked what was it that made TNA so different from the other wrestling companies out there today?

AJ's Response: Well...I'll tell you what it is....our ring has six sides!!!!
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There's one guy who summed up TNA perfectly a few years ago. On an interview with Between the Ropes, AJ Styles was asked what was it that made TNA so different from the other wrestling companies out there today?

AJ's Response: Well...I'll tell you what it is....our ring has six sides!!!!
I remember that.

Still, Styles is a worthless spotmonkey, so I think that speaks more to his lack of depth than TNA's.

TNA--Where legends go to die...
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