MMA Thread

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Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez Jardine, who lost to Houston Alexander in between those fights? If losing to O'Brien affects Herring's legitimacy, then beating Jardine is no coup, by your reasoning.

aside from the fact that jardine was knocked out and herring lost a unanimous decision. Now I know that you are going to be like BUT A KNOCK OUT IS BETTER THAN A DECISION! in which case let me tell you in this case it is not. If you stand with Alexander for more than 9 seconds apparently, you have a very good chance of getting knocked out. Noone knew who he was when Jardine fought him. Herring let himself get taken down and controlled by a very poor wrestler for 15 minutes. If you spend umm lets say 10 minutes on your back, you should prolly change up your plan to win the fight.

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez Wand, who lost 3 on the trot before that? Wow. a 25% win average over 30 months. I don't think so.

Wait you mean someone who hasnt won a lot of fights recently shouldnt get a title fight? Umm... Lesnar's first fight was a fucking can... the guy taped without taking a single clean hit. That said hes 1-1 in the UFC and against legitimate competition. Wanderlei silva is 32-8. His status alone leaves him one or two wins out of contension. Had Chuck bet Jardine, he would have been back in a title match, Had Silva beat Chuck in his Debut, he would be waiting for a title shot right now.

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez You can argue Werdum, but he comfortably lost to Arlovski last year, and has since beaten Gonzaga, who other than one peachy headkick to CroCop. has never beaten anybody worth mentioning, and Brandon Vera, who is now at his more comfortable 205. So that is one guy. Who I don't think is really, anymore eligable than brock right now.

Well Arlovski is no longer in the UFC so in terms of title contention in the UFC that loss doesnt matter. See you can argue that Gonzaga has never really beaten anybody and thats kinda true, but he has also never gone the distance in a fight. He has finished everyone that he has ever fought and only lost to two different people (randy and werdum). He wasnt just beating these "no names" he was dominating them. Call him a gatekeeper if you want, but the truth is, hes a very good heavyweight fighter. Brandon Vera might be a comfortable 205 right now but until his loss to big tim, he was cleaning up the heavyweight division including a fight with mir. But you can keep trying to say Werdum is not legitimate so you dont have to admit your wrong, I dont care.