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Old 09-09-2008, 12:29 AM   #2401
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Has it actually been confirmed yet, or it just thought to be him?
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:29 AM   #2402
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Also that's creepy, as just last night I was searching sites to see when he'd be fighting next
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Keeping it short....

The difference in training and motivation in Herring pre and post Jake O'Brien are very well documented. He stepped up after that fight to be considered a contender.

Jardine and Greg Jackson openly admitted they knew Houston Alexander is a fast starting, hard hitting one dimentional fighter. Jardine just lost. The article is on Sherdog somewhere.

Not winning many fights because you haven't had many is much different from not winning many fights because you keep losing them. I don't doubt Wand, being a legend with a solid record only needs another win to put him in line, but he hasn't got it yet.

Arlovski being a top 10 Heavyweight means that that loss mattered and matters. It was his toughest opponent to date, and Werdum lost. Just because a guy leaves the promotion, doesn't mean his record vanishes.

You can talk about Vera beating Mir, and fair enough. It is his best win. But we all know How lucky Frank is to even be in the position he is now in. He sucked pretty bad the 2 fights previous.

Fact is, Rob is right about the LHW's, Wand needs another win.

As for the Heavy's, Randy's biggest conflict is about money, they have to put him in the biggest draws to make the right money for him to fight. I think Lesnar is quite lucky getting this fight, but he wouldn't have got it had he not been nearly as dominating against Herring. Werdum I don't think would represent the top guy in the division. Lesnar could.
ok... in terms of the motivation of herring, whatever, he looked out of shape and didnt try and finish the fight with nogiera which was two fights after.

Jardine may have known Houston was one demensional, but knowing from tapes from another promotion if they even had that or just hearing from others is waaaaaay different than being able to break his style down in the UFC or seeing him first hand. Thats not even a good point you brought up, its just stating the odvious.

you agree with me on wand even though you will say you dont...

ummm yes in terms of UFC contention with two wins under his belt since, a loss to arlovski doesnt really matter because hes not in line in front of him.

you conceded the point on vera

Yes wand should have another win, but it would not be rediculous to give him a shot now if they so chose.

Lesnar would have gotten the fight no matter how he won because he brings in a lot of wrestling fans that dont know anything about fighting and that means $$$ for Dana's pockets. Its all about money.


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Oh, and this cunt negged me for saying things that were true and dismissing his poor arguments against. Fuck you Reav, you stupid dick. :foc:
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:58 AM   #2406
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Damn Evan Tanner

I hope he didnt kill himself.

His death is so bittersweet to me for some reason.

I really rooted for this guy.
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I've never wanted to see someone KO someone so bad when Tanner fought Kendall, really wanted Tanner to pull it out
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Did anyone post his blog? About his trip..?

If no, there's a little bit of it in this story...
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/8541780?MSNHPHMA
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“I believe there are people out there that just have a warrior spirit, whether it’s fighting or something, they’ve got to do it. It’s hard to identify with me; it’s just something I do.” ---Evan Tanner, 2005

On what will unquestionably be remembered as one of mixed martial arts’ saddest days, former UFC middleweight champion Evan Tanner - beloved by fans for his fighting ability and by friends for his free spirit – has passed away at the age of 37.

Tanner, on a camping trip in the Palo Verde mountain area, was found by an Imperial County Sheriff’s Department Deputy on Monday. The cause of death is not known at this time. He had not answered friends’ text messages since last Wednesday, and was officially reported missing on Friday.

On his personal Spike TV web blog, Tanner discussed the trip and how a failure of equipment could be fatal, but in a subsequent blog, he downplayed such fears, writing, “It seems some MMA websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on guys. It's really common down in southern California to go out to the off road recreation areas in the desert about an hour away from LA and San Diego. So my plan is to go out to the desert, do some camping, ride the motorcycle, and shoot some guns. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. A lot of people do it. This isn't a version of "Into the Wild". I'm not going out into the desert with a pair of shorts and a bowie knife, to try to live off the land. I'm going fully geared up, and I'm planning on having some fun.”

His agent, John Hayner, says that Tanner was excited about the trip and in a good place physically and mentally before his untimely death.

“He was in a good state of mind the last time we spoke,” said Hayner. “Everyone that was around him, and even at the gym he was training at, also said he was in a great state of mind. Living in Oceanside (California), he really liked being on the beach. His house was across from the water, he was in beautiful surroundings.”

If one thing was ever clear about Tanner, it was that he loved life, the outdoors, and adventure.

“He was always planning on going on some sort of adventure,” said Hayner. “And he never needed the finer things or made a fuss about them. He just needed enough for gas, shelter, and training.”

A native of Amarillo, Texas, Tanner worked various jobs as a bouncer, a cable TV contractor, a framer building beach houses, a dishwasher, a baker, a ditch digger, and a slaughterhouse worker before stumbling on to mixed martial arts in 1997.

Over the next 11 years, fighting would be a major part of his life, to the tune of 42 professional bouts, but as he said earlier this year before what would be his final bout against Kendall Grove, he never considered himself a fighter.

“I always thought of myself as the poet, the writer, or the philosopher – I never thought of myself as a fighter,” he chuckled. “But here I am. I always had an idea of the flow of my life, but not exactly what I would be doing day to day. And fighting definitely wasn’t something I thought I’d be doing.”

But he was good at it – very good in fact. Over the course of his career, Tanner (34-8) scored wins over Paul Buentello, Heath Herring, Ikuhisa Minowa, Justin McCully, Elvis Sinosic, Phil Baroni (twice), and Robbie Lawler. His biggest win, however, came at UFC 51 on February 5, 2005, when he stopped David Terrell in the first round to win the UFC middleweight championship.

Tanner would lose the belt to Rich Franklin in his first defense four months later, but the fans never abandoned him, and he returned that admiration, both in person and through his internet blogs.

“I wanted to give something back to the fans and let them know that I’m just a regular guy,” said Tanner in early 2008. “Some of the guys forget that and get caught up in the lights, and I never want to forget that and that I’m one of the lucky ones that got a chance to get out there and do this. There are a lot of great athletes out there, a lot of great fighters that never got the chance. I’m one of the lucky ones that did, so writing the blog and telling life as it is helps me stay grounded and it gives me a way to connect with the fans and give them something back.”

His blogs were more than just fight talk and product advertisements though. Tanner spoke frankly about life and his struggles in and out of the Octagon. And when
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he made his return to the UFC in 2008 after almost two years away, it was a triumph of the human spirit and an inspiration, regardless of whose hand was raised at the end of the fight.

“My thought was that I’m in a position where I’ve done some things and some people look up to me a little bit and maybe something in my story can help inspire them or motivate them to get through some things or do something better,” said Tanner before his return against Yushin Okami at UFC 82 in March. “If that’s the case and it helps anybody else out, then it’s worth me facing the embarrassment.”

He fell short in his final two bouts against Okami and Grove, but there was no keeping him down, and his off-time after the Grove bout was filled with more of his adventures, as well as participation in Harley-Davidson’s 105th anniversary celebration.

Sadly, there will be no more adventures, only memories of Evan Tanner.

“Evan was such a unique individual, and he was okay being an individual,” said Hayner. “He was okay with taking the path less traveled, and he often chose that harder path.”

It was simply who he was. Just read the words he spoke to me before I wished him luck for his fight against Grove in June.

“Everything’s been about the journey,” he said. “I never really set out with goals for fighting; it’s been about the adventure along the way. When you’re on your death bed, it’s those stories, those little adventures that are going to be the things that you remember. It’s not so much getting there, but how you got there.”

And he did it his way.

Leave it to me as I find a way to be
Consider me a satellite, forever orbiting
I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me
Guaranteed
---Eddie Vedder, “Guaranteed”. The song playing on Evan Tanner’s myspace page.

Rest in Peace, Evan.
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Whatever fucker. You can post smiley faces all day. You still have no good arguments for me, I was right about Jardine, its an interview with himself and Greg Jackson im reffering to so it is relevant, cock.

You soon dropped any bollocks about Werdum. Way to stand by your comments.

Evans is just such a clearer choice for No 1 condenership than Wand by miles, but whatever, I conceeded nothing, your argument was that he needed another win, you disagreed with your own point, only then did I agree with it.

Hey, by your logic, Now Tanner is dead, anyone that lost to him can have that loss removed from their record right? brains?

Man, are you fucking stupid or what?
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This fucking sucks to hear about Evan Tanner. Such a shame where his life went over the last few years.
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How factual are the rumors that Chuck is going to fight Anderson Silva?
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omg so did I. I would have been the best thing i've ever seen in sports probably.
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Whatever fucker. You can post smiley faces all day. You still have no good arguments for me, I was right about Jardine, its an interview with himself and Greg Jackson im reffering to so it is relevant, cock.

You soon dropped any bollocks about Werdum. Way to stand by your comments.

Evans is just such a clearer choice for No 1 condenership than Wand by miles, but whatever, I conceeded nothing, your argument was that he needed another win, you disagreed with your own point, only then did I agree with it.

Hey, by your logic, Now Tanner is dead, anyone that lost to him can have that loss removed from their record right? brains?

Man, are you fucking stupid or what?
Refer to my last post on the jardine-alexander thing because odviously you were too upset to read it.

I didnt say anything more anbout Werdum because you conceded the point and I didnt feel like rubbing your face in it, other than the fact that werdum has a couple quality wins under his belt and arlovski is no longer in the ufc which means that loss has no more affect on his UFC title contension. I know your all hot and bothered right now but get a fucking sucker calm down and read that again and you will realize that is true.

Didnt disagree with my own point sorry to tell ya... go back and read it... I said that he was right in top contension because of his "legendary" status which you agreed and because of his knockout of jardine. I believe you said that you wouldnt argue if he could KO liddel. Good one there buddy.

and odviously evans should get a shot, I never said he shouldnt.... go back and look. Never said it. I did say that it wouldnt be rediculous if they gave Wand the shot, which it wouldnt because of who he is. Yes there is better contenders, like evans, or Rampage, and I never said there wasnt, I was arguing Wands case. You dont know how to read.

Oh and good one with the tanner comment, your a great guy.

Gotta love how you dont really make any points, you just argue for a little then call me names, real good.
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In the moments after Rashad Evans knocked out Chuck Liddell at UFC 88 last night, the UFC's top brass huddled up and decided that the KO earned Evans a title shot.



UFC President Dana White announced in the wee hours of Sunday morning that Evans would fight Forrest Griffin for the UFC light heavyweight title. Although a date hasn't been chosen, it will most likely be a co-main event on the December 27 UFC 92 card, which also features the interim heavyweight title clash between Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Frank Mir.



Although UFC executives have to be disappointed that Liddell lost -- he is, after all, their most proven pay-per-view draw, and even Griffin wanted him to win -- it makes sense that they would give Evans the next title shot. He's undefeated and he's just provided UFC fans with one of the greatest highlights in mixed martial arts history. A Griffin-Evans fight won't draw the way a Griffin-Liddell fight would have, but it's still a fight every UFC fan will want to see.
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How factual are the rumors that Chuck is going to fight Anderson Silva?
Not at all. Liddell is has at least a 60 day no contact suspension coming on and Silva has a fight lined up already. I think Silva's next fight will probably be against the winner of Leben vs. Bisping providing Patrick Cote doesn't get the luckiest day of his life in a few weeks.
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Refer to my last post on the jardine-alexander thing because odviously you were too upset to read it.

I didnt say anything more anbout Werdum because you conceded the point and I didnt feel like rubbing your face in it, other than the fact that werdum has a couple quality wins under his belt and arlovski is no longer in the ufc which means that loss has no more affect on his UFC title contension. I know your all hot and bothered right now but get a fucking sucker calm down and read that again and you will realize that is true.

Didnt disagree with my own point sorry to tell ya... go back and read it... I said that he was right in top contension because of his "legendary" status which you agreed and because of his knockout of jardine. I believe you said that you wouldnt argue if he could KO liddel. Good one there buddy.

and odviously evans should get a shot, I never said he shouldnt.... go back and look. Never said it. I did say that it wouldnt be rediculous if they gave Wand the shot, which it wouldnt because of who he is. Yes there is better contenders, like evans, or Rampage, and I never said there wasnt, I was arguing Wands case. You dont know how to read.

Oh and good one with the tanner comment, your a great guy.

Gotta love how you dont really make any points, you just argue for a little then call me names, real good.
You are boring me now idiot.

You can say I can't read, but I never conceeded anything about Werdum, Arlovski fight is the reason he hasn't already had a shot. the Jardine interview has him admitting he lost in the anticipated way which means he just basically got his arse kicked. No fluke. YOU added Wand needed one more win to be in line, not me.

Oh, and you're a great guy, too.

Retard.
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lol I am watching Chuck Liddel play in the World Series of Poker and he seems really shy and nervous, especially when Phil Helmuth came in (Phil is one of the top poker plyers in the world)

it's funny seeing him like that, but I guess even the bad asses get timid when they are out of thier comfort zone.
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You are boring me now idiot.

You can say I can't read, but I never conceeded anything about Werdum, Arlovski fight is the reason he hasn't already had a shot. the Jardine interview has him admitting he lost in the anticipated way which means he just basically got his arse kicked. No fluke. YOU added Wand needed one more win to be in line, not me.

Oh, and you're a great guy, too.

Retard.
Im glad you see things my way... that wasnt so hard was it sweetheart
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Fucking hell girls get over it.
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Hi Rob
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And yes getting kicked in the leg over and over sucked ass
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Seems Fabricio agrees with you, man.

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Not at all. Liddell is has at least a 60 day no contact suspension coming on and Silva has a fight lined up already. I think Silva's next fight will probably be against the winner of Leben vs. Bisping providing Patrick Cote doesn't get the luckiest day of his life in a few weeks.
I would pay to see Chuck/Anderson Silva.

I think it should happen.
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Seems Fabricio agrees with you, man.

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Who cares!

Fucking hell.
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Fuck you, bert.

I'm not digging at this whopper anymore.... Thats relevant though.


I'm sure I would be more pissed off at being left out for Mir than Lesnar to be honest...
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Whose actually in the Heavyweight division in UFC at the moment?

Fabricio Werdum, Randy Couture, Brock Lesnar, ARN, Shane Carwin, Jake O'Brien, Heath Herring, Gabriel Gonzaga, and I guess Junior Cigano. Have I missed anyone?
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Cain Velasquez. Cheick Kongo.
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didnt they cut obrien again?
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Dunno how I forgot Kongo...is Cain Velasquez/Junior Cigano any good? Also in your opinion Rob is Shane Carwin any good?
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I like Carwin from what I've seen of him. He is fighting Neil Wain on the Birmingham show and I know the UFC expects things out of him too so I dunno why they put them together this early but should be good either way. I think Velasquez could be the guy to look out for though.
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Cool, from what I'd heard Carwin is pretty good. So I'm looking forward to seeing him fight. Whens Velasquez going to fight next?
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Carwin was a national champ wrestler in a lower division. Like NAIA or d2 or 3. Cain Velasquez was a national champ in junior college and could have very well been one for d1 but he lost from some questionable calls in the Ncaa tournament.
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UFC has some good heavyweights, but they dont have a lot of depth at the weight to give them a slow rise like other weight classes. These guys like carwin and velasquez are going to have meteoric rises in terms of the competition they face because they wont have enough people to beat up to get in the spot light in the public. Dana is going to want to get as much out of these guys as fast as he can and they will probably be getting matched up with people that they arent ready for.
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You missed out Mir.
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Affliction is off. They reckon they have only sold about 10% of tickets.

Moved to the Honda Center, and now in January, but still no fight for Fedor, who you would presume would be heathy by then.

So it probably still won't go ahead.

I guess Dana buried Arlovski pretty hard..
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