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Old 09-09-2008, 02:53 PM   #961
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Fuck it all to hell...my kick pedal finally gave way (it was on the bottom of the pedal) on Friday. I've managed to have an easy fix: DUCT TAPE THE FUCKING THING!! Still works (I could still Gold Star Eminence Front on Sunday. Easy song but I'm trying to learn higher tiers than Medium now), but not sure how long it will work. Need more money (or for Oct. 19th to get here) to replace it.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:55 PM   #962
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Actually, I think it was Activision that was whining like a bitch that it was EA that wasn't wanting it, and the EA whined right back that it was Activision that was blocking it. I don't know anything about Sony having anything to do with it (no one on either side was whining about Sony having anything to do with it). Here is an article from IGN from Oct. 2007 that tested everything as it worked at that point. And then this: http://www.boston.com/business/techn...d_with_gamers/ , that does say something about Activision being the bitch about it (not Sony).

As far as me loving Sony "that much", I could say the same about you and Microsoft. Though I'm not about to begin that fight here (though I know you're looking to start one here).
Of course, if you said I loved Microsoft "so much," you'd be lying. You, on the other hand, seem to disregard facts when it comes to things which make Sony look bad.

Like, for example, the decision came down to Sony to quell the patch. Activision whined, but Sony was the one who had the power and took action. Hence my statement that they cock blocked it. You know, because they did.

Or, for another example, asking why Microsoft hasn't taken steps to do something their system's version of Rock Band could do out of the box back when it launched. Sony waited a year to lift their foot on the matter.

Too bad not everything is equal. I know you like to play the conspiracy card, that people don't call me a fanboy because they like me so much (With 20 individual people whining about me CURRENTLY, you just look retarded making the comment), but when your complaints go against the facts, whereas mine don't, is it hard to see why you'd be viewed as a fanboy?

Come on, DP. You're not that stupid.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:01 PM   #963
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Wow...you can do that shouter vocals without your vocal cords going out? I have a hard time doing things like that for too long without them feeling weird. That's not an insult on you in any way (that IS hella tough to do).

Oh, and Jesse was the guy that just abandoned the band without a reason I'm aware of, so he kind of IS a cocksucker. Howard does the song alot better in my mind anyway.
Oh, I'm pretty sure I could. I stopped screaming years ago to save my vocal chords for real singing, though. That shit will destroy your career, no matter how good you are at screaming. but you're talking about adding it to Rock Band, where it would be primarily talkie parts, so it would be just about the easiest song to sing in the game. It would have only slightly more material to sing than Debaser (Almost none, instead of none), and the rest? Meh.

Though screaming like your nuts are in a vice isn't hard. Wonder if I still have some of the demos I did....
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Of course, if you said I loved Microsoft "so much," you'd be lying. You, on the other hand, seem to disregard facts when it comes to things which make Sony look bad.

Like, for example, the decision came down to Sony to quell the patch. Activision whined, but Sony was the one who had the power and took action. Hence my statement that they cock blocked it. You know, because they did.

Or, for another example, asking why Microsoft hasn't taken steps to do something their system's version of Rock Band could do out of the box back when it launched. Sony waited a year to lift their foot on the matter.

Too bad not everything is equal. I know you like to play the conspiracy card, that people don't call me a fanboy because they like me so much (With 20 individual people whining about me CURRENTLY, you just look retarded making the comment), but when your complaints go against the facts, whereas mine don't, is it hard to see why you'd be viewed as a fanboy?

Come on, DP. You're not that stupid.
Not stupid enough to just believe it without any further proof, because every single person that reported on it was stating that Activision was the one blocking the fucking thing (think about it: Does the 360 have FULL compatibility in which any guitar controller will completely work with any game? You seem to forget that not all controllers are working for all games, either in the way they should or at all). And, in case you forgot what I said, as well, I'm also hoping that MS does see this and enforces a mandate, as well (READ: I'm not hoping that they never do anything like that just to have Sony get an upper hand). You throwing random facts to support the claim that you're right and I'm wrong without any means to back anything up is making you look blind and stupid. I showed you actual proof to back up my claim (even from a place that would have no pony in any "console war") that Actlivision and EA were locked in a battle as to who was exactly blocking the patch, EA or Activision. No mention of Sony having ANY role in that was in there. You've yet to show me any proof since you made that claim (which I never heard from anyone before), so who's to say you didn't just pulled that fact out of your ass?

Face it, dude, you pulled an epic fail this time. Give it up!
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I'm not exactly sure where I read this but I was always under the impression that Microsoft already does this or at least ensures that additional prephirals are up to a certain standard so that the guitar controllers on the 360 would indeed have full compatibility.

I have never actually heard of an issue regarding compatibility in the games and as far as I know they all work. Anybody with an accurate source please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

As for the Sony blocking the patch deal, it was Harmonix who said it was Activision to blame for the patch not being released. The best news source I've found is this which actually has a statement from Sony which again states that it was Activision who blocked the patch.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/...ix-activi.html
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Not stupid enough to just believe it without any further proof, because every single person that reported on it was stating that Activision was the one blocking the fucking thing (think about it: Does the 360 have FULL compatibility in which any guitar controller will completely work with any game? You seem to forget that not all controllers are working for all games, either in the way they should or at all). And, in case you forgot what I said, as well, I'm also hoping that MS does see this and enforces a mandate, as well (READ: I'm not hoping that they never do anything like that just to have Sony get an upper hand). You throwing random facts to support the claim that you're right and I'm wrong without any means to back anything up is making you look blind and stupid. I showed you actual proof to back up my claim (even from a place that would have no pony in any "console war") that Actlivision and EA were locked in a battle as to who was exactly blocking the patch, EA or Activision. No mention of Sony having ANY role in that was in there. You've yet to show me any proof since you made that claim (which I never heard from anyone before), so who's to say you didn't just pulled that fact out of your ass?

Face it, dude, you pulled an epic fail this time. Give it up!
Do you know how to properly make paragraphs?

Anyway, your "epic fail" comment is is baseless, like most of your claims.

I tells ya, Activision has no power to block a patch. It's Sony's decision, and they are the only ones with the authority. This is even alluded to right in the proof to the "contrary" JC just linked to.

By the way, you're "hoping" that Microsoft will do something they've been doing, asking why they haven't done something they've been doing, and applauding Sony for finally coming up with a standard for their previously non-standardised Bluetooth products.

To make an analogy, that's the equivalent of Microsoft finally coming out with a non-proprietary HDD, and some Microsoft fanboy saying that they hope that Sony looks into this in the future and one day adds it to the PS3. Sony did it out of the box, but this fucktard is acting as though it's something new that Microsoft did first.

For clarification, I just indirectly called you a fucktard, because Microsoft has a standard for wireless controllers in place, and has since they first allowed companies to use it. Sony didn't. When Activision whined, they cock blocked the update, and finally, they're letting it throught. SONY had to approve it; they didn't. And you're still making comments hoping they'll catch up.

So are you lying, or just too stupid to know better?

It's not about Sony having a hand up, it's about you being wrong. You make it about me wanting to take down Sony because you yourself want that to be the case, because if that's the case, you're not pulling all this out of your ass.

Too bad you still are.
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I'm not exactly sure where I read this but I was always under the impression that Microsoft already does this or at least ensures that additional prephirals are up to a certain standard so that the guitar controllers on the 360 would indeed have full compatibility.
The only issue with compatability is with Guitar Hero 2 and 3.

Of course, Sony hasn't actually gone for Universal compatibility except for forward, and the bit that was left out of the PS3 version but included in the 360 version. Microsoft had already guaranteed forward compatability, too....

(But let's not look at the actual level of compatibility, because it brings up more darkpower dishonesty in the process).
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I'm not exactly sure where I read this but I was always under the impression that Microsoft already does this or at least ensures that additional prephirals are up to a certain standard so that the guitar controllers on the 360 would indeed have full compatibility.

I have never actually heard of an issue regarding compatibility in the games and as far as I know they all work. Anybody with an accurate source please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

As for the Sony blocking the patch deal, it was Harmonix who said it was Activision to blame for the patch not being released. The best news source I've found is this which actually has a statement from Sony which again states that it was Activision who blocked the patch.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/...ix-activi.html
According to that article from IGN I posted before, the 360 compatibility is a weird issue. The GH3 controllers will work with RB, but can't activate anything (like the overdrives, I'm assuming, they only say "Rock Band special effects"). The GH2 controller works with everything, they said (this is probably because GH2 was made while Harmonix still was developing the GH franchise). However, the Rock Band controllers won't play the actual GH3 game (it'll only work the menus, but it won't play the notes). So in short, they are compatable to a point, but don't go thinking that everything will work WITH everything. There has yet to be a remedy to this situation. Of course, KK is taking this as "oh, everything is comatable and MS already made a mandate" when that's not exactly true. I'm not sure where he's getting THAT info, and I would love to know where he found this news.

As for the Sony thing, that article you posted ACTUALLY said that Sony had the patch and was willing to release it until ACTIVISION bitched and blocked the patch, and before anyone says "oh, but Sony has authority", keep in mind HOW Activision could block a patch. If Sony had all this authority, they would've had rumble in their contollers when the system first came out (instead of having to fight a lawsuit). They said it was APPROVED by Sony, which meant that they didn't have any problem with giving the patch (and thus no other reason to "cock block" the patch) to everyone until Activison said no (and they possibly had legal teams ready to go IF Sony decided to release it anyway to fight both Harmonix and Sony). Again, KK is trying to tell us something is there by saying to read "between the lines". Yet, he's whining that I thought there was some "consperiacy" in his neg repping me constantly just because his feelings were hurt.

As for my responses to his "claims", I never claimed to support any one console. You would've remembered me criticizing Sony for alot of things last year. This is typical of some of the 360 Xbots I see alot of on N4G (KK could make some REAL good friends over there, though he'd be eaten alive trying to say some of these things over there by those who "know better". Not sure why he doesn't try to "educate" THEM and why he's so scared of trying ot even GOING there, since he has so much of this "logic" he claims to have). They go and claim all this shit and claim that they aren't a fanboy (yet they are such in a rush to bring up unfounded things about how MS did this and that and this and that when they never did), but whenever YOU come on and make a well thought out, well rounded, MATURE argument that dares to say that Sony did something right or defends them in the LEAST (even OWNING a PS3 is grounds for this to them), or if you dare criticize MS in ANY way, automatically makes you a PS3 fanboy or a "Sony Droid", like that's the only argument they have, then repeat the same thing that was already proven wrong. Even if you are so fair to the other consoles (or if you don't even DEFEND Sony that much and don't like the PS3, they are known also for backstabbing their own kind), you can still get nailed by them for it. Thankfully, these are also people that the other users know about and can easily debunk them. There are also those who try to "hide" their fanboyism by saying a good thing about Sony or something like that, but you can tell that when they are few and far between.

Now, as for me, I would criticize Sony when they do something wrong (I don't think they've been compeditive enough right now, and the PSOne classics that are on the PSN Store (at least in the US version) are few and far between). Also, I own a Wii (bought it before I got the PS3), and I love it for the VC and I wanted it for Metroid Prime 3 (and I wish there would be another Metroid game on there). I do not regret that decision in buying a Wii. And he forgot that I am still wanting the 360 (Fable 2 would be good), even when I have bad feelings due to the RRoD issues and because I don't know what other games I would want (Halo right now doesn't really interest me, I don't get the appeal of it), but I would love to see the Arcade emulation that the 360 has. Thing is, like those same Bots on N4G, that is just suddenly ignored or forgotten if you say anything pro-Sony. It's like you're not allowed to.

I'd have no problem in saying that MS did something right. I have a problem when someone says something that isn't true then try to spin everything to make it mean what they want it to mean while trying to make it look like YOU'RE the one spinning everything and YOU'RE the one that is wrong (you saw how KK was going about trying to say that there was something in the article YOU posted that said that it said what he believed was true when the article even said otherwise (it's called "reaching" in order to keep his argument intact). His argument is now being attacked by another side now, even if it's only mildly, and he's getting scared, but he can't swallow his pride even once, so you're seeing first hand what happens when he can't do that.
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The only issue with compatability is with Guitar Hero 2 and 3.

Of course, Sony hasn't actually gone for Universal compatibility except for forward, and the bit that was left out of the PS3 version but included in the 360 version. Microsoft had already guaranteed forward compatability, too....

(But let's not look at the actual level of compatibility, because it brings up more darkpower dishonesty in the process).
AHEM: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/830/830792p1.html

I think I already went over this before! Do you just refuse to read any of these or do you think there's still something there that supports your failed logic.

Like, for instance, I was saying that I wasn't wanting to argue this point in this thread with you (thereby saying for you to at least begin a new thread about it if you wanted to), and you completely ignored that and started your "darkpower is a Sony Droid" line of arguments that you repeat every single time you see the supposed opening. So, yes, there is ANOTHER thread on this board in which becomes me and you arguing to no end because you can't swallow your pride even once (you do realize that it's you who's deciding to really get into these arguments because you don't like my opinions).

Even I am willing to say I'm wrong...WHEN I'm wrong (which I'm not here). And I don't mind you liking MS's system or anything, but C'MON!!
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I think I already went over this before! Do you just refuse to read any of these or do you think there's still something there that supports your failed logic.

Like, for instance, I was saying that I wasn't wanting to argue this point in this thread with you (thereby saying for you to at least begin a new thread about it if you wanted to), and you completely ignored that and started your "darkpower is a Sony Droid" line of arguments that you repeat every single time you see the supposed opening. So, yes, there is ANOTHER thread on this board in which becomes me and you arguing to no end because you can't swallow your pride even once (you do realize that it's you who's deciding to really get into these arguments because you don't like my opinions).

Even I am willing to say I'm wrong...WHEN I'm wrong (which I'm not here). And I don't mind you liking MS's system or anything, but C'MON!!
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AHEM: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/830/830792p1.html

I think I already went over this before! Do you just refuse to read any of these or do you think there's still something there that supports your failed logic.

Like, for instance, I was saying that I wasn't wanting to argue this point in this thread with you (thereby saying for you to at least begin a new thread about it if you wanted to), and you completely ignored that and started your "darkpower is a Sony Droid" line of arguments that you repeat every single time you see the supposed opening. So, yes, there is ANOTHER thread on this board in which becomes me and you arguing to no end because you can't swallow your pride even once (you do realize that it's you who's deciding to really get into these arguments because you don't like my opinions).

Even I am willing to say I'm wrong...WHEN I'm wrong (which I'm not here). And I don't mind you liking MS's system or anything, but C'MON!!
So which part of the article form a period where Harmonix was still promising universal compatibility is the part you think vindicates you and demonstrates I'm wrong? Also, the high ground card only works if you take the high ground, which you didn't. saying "I could say...." "...But I won't" is hypocritical in and of itself, introducing it while trying to pretend you aren't. Sorry.

Keep telling yourself you're not wrong, though. You're not interested in the truth, you're interested in sating your own ego.
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RB has the option to export the songs now. It's in the options menu.
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How much GB will all those take up or have you found that out yet?
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It said 1.4 or something like that. It says when you go into it.
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It said 1.4 or something like that. It says when you go into it.
I haven't done it yet (didn't know they would release the patch this soon (I'm assuming they did from your comment about the export stuff), figured they might release it later on in the day when they update the store, not sure why I thought that), and I've seen some of those things keep you in the dark about what it's using, so I figured I ask.
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Shit, forgot I'm one of the few people on here that has it on the PS3.

I assume they're releasing the patches for both systems at the same time (why wouldn't they?).
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It said you also have the option of deleting songs after the export. Which is cool, because there's a few songs I hate and will never be playing again. Like The New Pornographers - Electric Version and Ballroom Blitz. Hate those.

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Old 09-11-2008, 02:26 AM   #979
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Love Ballroom Blitz (keep forgetting to DL that song). But Electric Version gives me some small nightmares on the drums. I might keep all of them anyway.

Is there anything else that changed from the patch (I know about the PS3 stuff that me and KK keep arguing over who blocked what and all that, but I was also hearing about RB2 standards (whatever THAT meant) and lowering the Gold Star threshold).
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Don't know about the other changes, but here you go:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/909/909118p1.html

September 10, 2008 - Rock Band 2 goes on sale this Sunday. As you know by now, RB2 features plenty of new bells and whistles. But it also includes blasts from the past. As previously announced, owners (or renters) or the original Rock Band can export 55 of the tracks to Rock Band 2. But how exactly does this work and how do these songs display in Rock Band 2? We had a chance to scope this out in advance and it is pretty damn cool.

You can export your RB1 songs right now, without owning Rock Band 2. Just insert the disc, download the new title update (the option appears when you first boot the game) and you are halfway there. With the new update, go into the options menu. There you will find a new option, "Export Songs."

The exported songs take up 1.53 gb, so make sure you have room before you start this process. It also is going to cost you -- though not too much. You must pay a licensing fee (to satisfy the RB1 artists) of 400 MSP ($5). Not bad for the right to own 55 extra songs for Rock Band 2.

The process copies all 55 songs onto your hard drive. You can then delete individual songs you don't like from your hard drive the same way you delete save files. Each song is listed individually on your hard drive, making it fairly easy to identify and clean out any songs you don't want showing up in RB2.

With that done, the next step is getting a copy of Rock Band 2. All exported songs show up and are available from the outset in quick play. But you can also choose these songs when you create a set list in World Tour. And yes, these songs are fair game to appear on mystery set lists as well. In the track list, RB2 songs have a "2" icon, RB1 has a "1" and downloaded tracks have a down arrow icon. You can sort by origin, to make it easier to find your old faves from Rock Band 1.


Here is the really cool part. Outside of World Tour, there is a very cool Player Challenge mode. This mode could be seen as the replacement for the old single-player mode -- though it does also allow for bands to play through some challenges. This tiered mode has about 80 pre-set challenges that will task you with beating certain songs. You can run the gauntlet with the bass guitar or do all lead vocals or focus on band challenges. As you progress, you open some additional theme challenges. These are dynamic and will adapt to the content you have on your hard drive.

Have a DLC pack downloaded and a challenge to play through them all will be generated. Or maybe you have three Weezer songs (one from RB1, and two through downloads), those become a Weezer song challenge. With the RB1 export, you will also see a number of RB1-specific challenges as well. And all RB1 songs will roll into other genre challenges, such as the Infinite Metal Challenge. Though there are some set lists, there is the potential for hundreds of game-generated challenges by year's end. Exporting the RB1 tracks and downloading more content means even more challenges to spend your time on.

The RB1 tracks play perfectly in RB2 but benefit from the adjustments Harmonix has made to the gameplay and presentation. If you buy RB2, you should spend the $5 to export the RB1 tracks. It expands all areas of gameplay and gives you an enormous set list. For example, we exported the RB1 tracks and, along with DLC and the tracks on RB2 have just over 200 songs to play from the get-go. That's awesome.
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It said you also have the option of deleting songs after the export. Which is cool, because there's a few songs I hate and will never be playing again. Like The New Pornographers - Electric Version and Ballroom Blitz. Hate those.
After the initial 1.52 GB export, you can delete individual songs. The main shit I'll be deleting is shit like TIMAAAAAAY and Honest Bob. I haven't yet, though I did the export the first day. I love Electric version, but if I never had to play it on Rock Band again, I probably wouldn't lose any sleep.
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Soo...where do you get the key for this? Looking all over the PSN store and RB and it just said to "get the key" and took me back to the menu.

Was I supposed to do something in the game after that?
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Soo...where do you get the key for this? Looking all over the PSN store and RB and it just said to "get the key" and took me back to the menu.

Was I supposed to do something in the game after that?
Well, I don't have a clue about the PS3 version, but here's what you do in the 360 Version, so it's probably similar.

  1. Download the update that was made available.
  2. Under "options," there should be an "export" option.
  3. Select it; they'll prompt you to buy the license.
  4. Once the purchase is made, the process should start.
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Hey all,

Posting this in the 10 minutes where I still have internet access (go internet tubes!) Next week we have two big packs for you. First we have the full album of Peace Sells…But Who’s Buying? from Megadeth. The 7 tracks on this full album release joining the title song which is on the Rock Band 2 disc.


Wake Up Dead
The Conjuring
Devil’s Island
Good Mourning / Black Friday
Bad Omen
I Ain’t Superstitious
My Last Words

Peace Sells…But Who’s Buying? will be available for $10.99 (880 Microsoft Points) for the album, or $1.99 (160 Microsoft Points) per track.

In addition we will also be putting out a Rock Band Tour 4-pack from bands on our Rock Band Tour kicking off in October.

“One of Those Nights” by the Cab
“Hands Down” by Dashboard Confessional-
“She’s a Handsome Woman” by Panic! At the Disco
“Natural Disaster” by Plain White T’s

All tracks in the Rock Band Tour Pack are $.99 (80 Microsoft Points) or $3.99 (320 Microsoft Points) for a limited time (October 14 on Xbox and October 16 on PS3) when they return to $1.99 (160 Microsoft Points) per track or $6.99 (560 Microsoft Points) for the full pack.

All tracks are original masters on both packs.

DLC comes out on Xbox 360 on Tuesday, September 16th and on PS3 on Thursday, September 18th.
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Soo...where do you get the key for this? Looking all over the PSN store and RB and it just said to "get the key" and took me back to the menu.

Was I supposed to do something in the game after that?
For the PS3, you have to purchase the key in the PSN store (not the in-game RB music store). It's in the Rock Band Add-Ons section.

Gonna be deleting like 10 songs that I'll never have to play in RB2 (I'm looking at you Maps, Orange Crush and Outside).
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