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Old 09-10-2008, 10:17 AM   #1
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1. Worried? I don't think so. 2. Edge's first run doesn't parallel this at all. He was the #1 heel and was being pushed as so against the top guy in the company. And he drew on top.
1. Useless alpha male post.

2. ...Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Edge's first run wasn't a brief stint won by the MitB contract? He wasn't put thru weak appearance booking against his opponents for the miniscule duration? He didn't lose it only to start a high potential feud, regain the title, and solidify his spot in the top tier? I coulda sworn that was his first run.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:27 AM   #2
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1. Useless alpha male post.

2. ...Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Edge's first run wasn't a brief stint won by the MitB contract? He wasn't put thru weak appearance booking against his opponents for the miniscule duration? He didn't lose it only to start a high potential feud, regain the title, and solidify his spot in the top tier? I coulda sworn that was his first run.
1 - Get new material.

2 - Check the ratings and PPV buys when he was on top.

Maybe I'm the idiot here but I think the whole point of making a star is the make money with him immediately. Not hopefully months down the line. You build him BEFORE you put the belt on him. Only Bret Hart went from mid card to main event and stayed there because they booked him strong when he was on top. Everyone else who made money on top was booked to be a top star BEFORE they got the belt.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:37 AM   #3
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1 - Get new material.

2 - Check the ratings and PPV buys when he was on top.

Maybe I'm the idiot here but I think the whole point of making a star is the make money with him immediately. Not hopefully months down the line. You build him BEFORE you put the belt on him. Only Bret Hart went from mid card to main event and stayed there because they booked him strong when he was on top. Everyone else who made money on top was booked to be a top star BEFORE they got the belt.
I don't care about ratings, hence I didn't mention them. And I'm not intending to call you an idiot, so you really can stop the hostility. Again, I'm not saying what they did was the perfect play. I'm simply saying it's not nearly the tragedy that some would suggest, and I've explained why. By your own comparisson, had they booked him stronger, he'd have been fine. But testing the waters with him as champ is not the end of the world because it's what gave him the base to have a powerful run as champion. His second run will have the potential to be long and strong because of this.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:18 PM   #4
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I don't care about ratings, hence I didn't mention them.
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They do care about ratings. That's the whole point. If it was just for entertainment for a few people, put the belt on Rory McAllister or something. I'd get a kick out of it. Not many others would but it doesn't matter.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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2. ...Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Edge's first run wasn't a brief stint won by the MitB contract? He wasn't put thru weak appearance booking against his opponents for the miniscule duration? He didn't lose it only to start a high potential feud, regain the title, and solidify his spot in the top tier? I coulda sworn that was his first run.
Yes, but the difference is, Edge had been through various high level feuds and had numerous title shots already. If I recall correctly, he even had a title shot at a PPV as well as having the MITB. He then even had the returning Matt Hardy storyline, even with the MITB being put on the line in a match.

Punk had none of that on his resume. Feuding (and losing regularly to) Chavo Guerrero & John Morrison is not even in the same league.

They blew their load on Punk way way too soon. I would have liked to see this 'undeserving' thing being based around the MITB contract rather than the title. The joke was, he was still losing matches but not looking particularly bad not long after Mania. They started having him stalking the champions at the PPV's - that worked.

Then he won the title, they wrote him exactly as the others described - a lucky, transition champion who would lose it at the first oppotunity. He should have beaten Batista, clean or not - that would have worked. Much like when Jericho first beat Rock with a steel chair to win the 'big one'.

This upcoming feud with Orton could be great, as long as Punk drops the smiley jumping around thing and gets vindictive.
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