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Old 09-18-2008, 05:36 PM   #1
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This is hard to answer, because you have to go by what BDC's definition of a star is. I mean, you give him a fine answer like AJ Styles, and he turns it around and says it doesn't count.

Samoa Joe, Abyss, AJ Styles and to a certain degree, Christopher Daniels are all reasonable answers. They were nothing but indy guys before TNA signed them, and now they are well recognised within the wrestling world. I'd also submit Jay Lethal for consideration. They may be botching him, but Lethal has gotten some big wins in his young career, and prior to it was just another ROH guy the WWE were apparently looking at. Now he's got a gimmick and is largely over with crowds.

BDC isn't looking for these sort of "stars," but what TNA did with Christian Cage, Tomko and Rhino, and giving them big pushes that made them better than they had been in their career (in Rhino's case, maybe not better, but it made him the top guy in something other than a niche promotion). You have to agree that Tomko was much more relevent in TNA than in the WWE.

Matt Morgan seems well on the way to becoming a "star," too. As does Kaz, if they choose to push him right. In time, James Storm and Robert Roode could make it, too.

It all comes down to what your definition of "star" is, because it's really quite a subjective term. Especially in today's professional wrestling landscape.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:47 PM   #2
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This is hard to answer, because you have to go by what BDC's definition of a star is. I mean, you give him a fine answer like AJ Styles, and he turns it around and says it doesn't count.

Samoa Joe, Abyss, AJ Styles and to a certain degree, Christopher Daniels are all reasonable answers. They were nothing but indy guys before TNA signed them, and now they are well recognised within the wrestling world. I'd also submit Jay Lethal for consideration. They may be botching him, but Lethal has gotten some big wins in his young career, and prior to it was just another ROH guy the WWE were apparently looking at. Now he's got a gimmick and is largely over with crowds.

BDC isn't looking for these sort of "stars," but what TNA did with Christian Cage, Tomko and Rhino, and giving them big pushes that made them better than they had been in their career (in Rhino's case, maybe not better, but it made him the top guy in something other than a niche promotion). You have to agree that Tomko was much more relevent in TNA than in the WWE.

Matt Morgan seems well on the way to becoming a "star," too. As does Kaz, if they choose to push him right. In time, James Storm and Robert Roode could make it, too.

It all comes down to what your definition of "star" is, because it's really quite a subjective term. Especially in today's professional wrestling landscape.

When Christian won the the TNA title, it was about the same level as the IC title in WWE, he didn't really move foward, just laterally.

Rhino was pushed any more than he was pushed in ECW, so again TNA re-established him, or at least kept him momentum up.

Tomoko got over in TNA, but he had decent coverage in WWE. I can't say TNA made Tomoko any more than WCW made Nash. Certainly both were more popular when they moved, but they got a decent start before hand. Also Tomoko is at best right now a semi maineventer in TNA which is midcard in WWE. So it is hard to say TNA made him. He has done well in TNA none the less.

I agree Morgan, Roode, Storm, and Kaz all could be stars, but they aren't yet. So it is pointless to say they will be, especially since TNA preffers to pick up WWE's left overs instead of making new guys.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:51 PM   #3
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When Christian won the the TNA title, it was about the same level as the IC title in WWE, he didn't really move foward, just laterally.

Rhino was pushed any more than he was pushed in ECW, so again TNA re-established him, or at least kept him momentum up.

Tomoko got over in TNA, but he had decent coverage in WWE. I can't say TNA made Tomoko any more than WCW made Nash. Certainly both were more popular when they moved, but they got a decent start before hand. Also Tomoko is at best right now a semi maineventer in TNA which is midcard in WWE. So it is hard to say TNA made him. He has done well in TNA none the less.

I agree Morgan, Roode, Storm, and Kaz all could be stars, but they aren't yet. So it is pointless to say they will be, especially since TNA preffers to pick up WWE's left overs instead of making new guys.
It's especially pointless to say they could or will be, since the pattern is that they won't. Period.

It's interesting that people like Tomko, who were pushed beyond their means on a large stage, move to a small stage and are suddenly now stars.
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Old 09-18-2008, 09:46 PM   #4
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It's especially pointless to say they could or will be, since the pattern is that they won't. Period.

It's interesting that people like Tomko, who were pushed beyond their means on a large stage, move to a small stage and are suddenly now stars.
Not a Tomko fan or anything but I think maybe his stint in Japan had a bit to do with his progression from WWE too his time now in TNA.

He wouldnt be the first guy to go to Japan, learn to work a match then come back stateside to some form of stardom. Might not just be medium sized fish in a small pond syndrome as you suggest.
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:12 PM   #5
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Not a Tomko fan or anything but I think maybe his stint in Japan had a bit to do with his progression from WWE too his time now in TNA.

He wouldnt be the first guy to go to Japan, learn to work a match then come back stateside to some form of stardom. Might not just be medium sized fish in a small pond syndrome as you suggest.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:51 PM   #6
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Not a Tomko fan or anything but I think maybe his stint in Japan had a bit to do with his progression from WWE too his time now in TNA.

He wouldnt be the first guy to go to Japan, learn to work a match then come back stateside to some form of stardom. Might not just be medium sized fish in a small pond syndrome as you suggest.
Very true. The Tomko in the WWE was green. Very green. When he went to Japan he learned to work and work well. The Tomko we se today is one of. if not the, best big man in the buisness state-side today. With talks of him coming back to TNA there is strong chance for him to be in the upper main event in no time. And he could do very realistically do this in TNA or the E with ease. The guy is getting great.
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It all comes down to what your definition of "star" is, because it's really quite a subjective term. Especially in today's professional wrestling landscape.
Which is interesting, given your use of it.

Spoiler: I'm not just talking about this thread. In fact, this thread's near the bottom of the list.
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