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Old 10-11-2008, 08:02 PM   #2761
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Oh I can definitely see that scenario as well. Mir is a gut feeling in all honesty (plus a little bit of bias in general), but I genuinely think that Courture would beat Nog, and there's a part of me that thinks Brock could overwhelm Nog if he stays patient.

That being said, I do agree... i can see Nog subbing on three too. Those are just my picks though.
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Nog over Mir via rear naked choke in the forth..

Lesnar over Couture by TKO by ref stoppage in the third..

I like all four, but would like to see Lesnar vs Nog.. I just think with the damage Lesnar can potentially put out, in addition to the damage we know Nog can take would make for a very compelling match for any fan..
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Andrei Arlovski will return to Affliction to battle current WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko at the organization's second event, "Day of Reckoning," according to Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio.


MMARated. com was the first to report the news.


According to the report, the official announcement -- as well as exact details of the date, location and main card fights -- will be released sometime next week.


"Day of Reckoning" was originally scheduled to be held Saturday night at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. That event was rescheduled in light of a new partnership with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions -- although reports of slow ticket sales may also have factored into the decision.


Despite Golden Boy's new involvement with "Day of Reckoning," Atencio also confirmed that the event would feature MMA bouts only -- conflicting with Affliction's previous announcement that the event would involve both boxing and MMA.


"We sat down with them and couldn't come up with a main event boxing match that everyone wanted," Atenco told MMARated. com.


Previous reports have pointed to a Jan. 24 2009 date in Anaheim, Calif., as Affliction's likely target for a new date.


Arlovski was last seen successfully defeating IFL champion Roy Nelson at "EliteXC: Heat" on week ago. The bout was a co-promoted affair between Affliction and EliteXC.


Emelianenko last fought in July, making quick work of former UFC champion Tim Sylvia at Affliction's debut event, "Banned."
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Nog over Mir via rear naked choke in the forth..

Lesnar over Couture by TKO by ref stoppage in the third..

I like all four, but would like to see Lesnar vs Nog.. I just think with the damage Lesnar can potentially put out, in addition to the damage we know Nog can take would make for a very compelling match for any fan..
I think nog would crush Lesnar. Maybe three or four fights down the road and it might be another story, but right now I don't think so. Other than that I agree with you...except for the rear naked choke bit as there are WAY too many variables for me to pick a finish to any fight.
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I understand that, I just couldn't even begin to try that. Especially with a guy like Nog who really pull ANYTHING out of his ass.
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Oh I can definitely see that scenario as well. Mir is a gut feeling in all honesty (plus a little bit of bias in general), but I genuinely think that Courture would beat Nog, and there's a part of me that thinks Brock could overwhelm Nog if he stays patient.

That being said, I do agree... i can see Nog subbing on three too. Those are just my picks though.
It must be bias or alcohol abuse if you think Mir will beat Noguiera. And keeping patient is one of Noguiera's best strengths. Look at the Tim Sylvia fight for a perfect example.
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Jason Guida was on the Elite XC card last night.. He purposefully "dropped" his mouthpiece, to get a break, kicked it out of the cage so the ref couldn't find it, then slapped away a replacement mouthpiece and pushed the ref..



I haven't actually seen the fight yet, but I'll look and see if it's online yet..
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Brothers Ken and Frank Shamrock have sparred, both physically and verbally, for the better part of 15 years.

Older brother Ken, a UFC Hall of Famer, has said that younger brother Frank, a former UFC titleholder, is an ungrateful punk who disrespected their father, Bob.

Not to be outdone, Frank has accused Ken of guarding his turf with excessive zeal. He also accuses Ken of ruthlessly degrading him and labeling him a subpar talent.

In March, the mud slinging reached a different level of enmity, as Frank accused Ken of being a steroid abuser.

It comes as no surprise, then, that the brothers are on the cusp of settling the intra-familial drama that has simmered for so long. They have each signed a contract, in principle, to settle their family feud in a most public fashion: they will face off, in a cage, in a pay-per-view contest.


Ken Shamrock has no qualms about fighting his brother, Frank.
There are plenty of particulars to iron out, like the date (probably sometime in April), the venue (none has been chosen) and the promotional and broadcast partners to be involved (Elite XC, CBS, and Showtime, with perhaps some other co-promoters), before what is believed to be the first brother vs. brother faceoff in fight history becomes a 100 percent done deal.

"We've both signed a contract to fight each other," younger brother Frank Shamrock told ESPN.com. "Ken is down with it. We talked about it two years ago, and we've agreed materially to fight."

"Will the fight happen? Absolutely," Ken Shamrock told ESPN.com. "He's got a buttkicking coming to him. Everything I've learned, everything I have bottled up in me, is going to come out on him. I've still got love for Frank, but I'm angry at him."

Ken Shamrock, the 44-year-old UFC and WWE veteran, was supposed to take on Kimbo Slice in Florida on Oct. 4. A loser of his last five fight (all by KO or TKO), the Slice tussle was perceived by many as his final shot at a high-profile conquest. Six hours before the main event, however, Ken was rolling with a training partner, and after taking a bump on the head, some scar tissue over his left eye opened up. He needed six stitches to close a gash, and the Florida commission scratched him from the card.

This development put the Shamrock vs. Shamrock scrap on the front burner.

Frank, 35, last fought in March. He lost via TKO to Cung Le, and has fought only sporadically since 2000. If family bragging rights were to be hashed out, the fight had to be booked soon, so Frank is especially keen on making it happen.


The fight has a cool hook. Brothers beating each other up. Everyone wants to see that.
-- Frank Shamrock, on why fight fans would be interested in seeing him fight his brother Ken Shamrock
"The fight has a cool hook," Frank said. "Brothers beating each other up. Everyone wants to see that."

Elite XC head of operations Jeremy Lappen sees the promotional possibilities in a bro vs. bro throwdown. "They're talking about doing it and we're interested in the fight," he said. "It's a storyline everyone can relate to, Cain versus Abel."

The Shamrocks are adopted brothers; both were taken in by Bob Shamrock, who took on scads of troubled boys on his Susanville, Calif., ranch and mentored the wayward souls.

Ken was born Ken Kilpatrick. When he was 10, he bolted from the harsh discipline meted out by his stepfather and landed in Bob Shamrock's care. Almost immediately, he began to concentrate his energy on sports. He took up wrestling and, later, martial arts. In 1982, Bob adopted Ken and changed his adopted son's name to Shamrock.

Frank followed a similar path. Born Frank Juarez, he too chafed under the harsh rule of a stepfather. At 11, he left home and bounced around in group homes and foster homes. At 13, he landed at the Shamrock ranch, and also took the last name Shamrock in homage to the patriarch.

A rivalry began brewing in the mid-1990s. Ken debuted in Pancrase in 1993 and showed Frank the ropes. Thirteen months later, Frank appeared in Pancrase. By UFC 5 in April 1995, Ken was a top draw in the company. By December 1997, Frank owned the UFC's light heavyweight title. Man-sized egos were now in play, and there was jostling for supremacy. Whose methods were more sound? Whose legacy, at the end of the fighting days, would loom larger?

In 1997, a marked deterioration in the brother's relationship occurred. The brothers had a falling out, and since then, Ken has sided with Bob, and Frank has been on the outside looking in.


In his last fight, Frank Shamrock, right, suffered a loss to Cung Le.
Muddying the situation is Bob's health. He had a heart attack in September and has lived with type-2 diabetes. His condition worsened after the heart attack and several organs shut down, After several surgeries, he is awake.

Frank believes the presence of his father at the bout would be a vital component of the event.

"He's a big part of this story," Frank said. "He needs to be there. I'd be devastated if he weren't."

Frank and Bob hadn't talked in eight years before Frank visited him in the hospital in Reno, Nev.

Is there not a chance he'd be sad to see his sons battle it out?

"I think he'd be very happy," said Frank. "Listen, Ken and Bob both have amazing hearts. He [Bob"> took me off the streets and did the same for so many other kids. This story includes him."

Ken feels his dad will attend if healthy enough. Who would Bob pull for?

"I think he'd root for both of us," Ken said. "But I think he's disappointed in the way Frank has acted to him. My dad loves us both, but I think he'd like to see Frank taught a lesson."

Apart from the obvious desire to pull off a commercially successful event, Frank believes that it is important to share the legacy of the Shamrock name in MMA. He thinks that too many fans believe that the Zuffa-backed UFC is the A-Z of MMA, and wants to set that record straight.

Ken wants to set Frank straight.

"I'm a fighter, he's a fighter," Ken said. "He feels he's better than me, but I always spanked him in the gym. Now he wants to show me. I figured he'd wait until I was 50 years old, but I guess he's waiting until I turn 45."

For the record, Cain defeated Abel via first round KO in their scrap. Brothers have been going at it for many a moon. If only pay-per-view was around in their day

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Diego is out of the fight with Alves due to injury.. Koscheck is gonna replace him..

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by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 13, 2008 at 8:38 pm ET

An injury suffered in training has forced top welterweight contender Diego Sanchez (19-2 MMA, 7-2 UFC) out of a highly anticipated bout with Thiago Alves (15-3 MMA, 8-2 UFC) at "UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote." With less than two weeks until the event, fellow top welterweight Josh Koscheck (11-2 MMA, 9-2 UFC) has stepped in to fill the void.

Our friends at fiveouncesofpain.com were the first to report the change, and MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) confirmed the news with sources close to the bout.

UFC 90, which features a main event between UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and Canadian slugger Patrick Cote, takes place at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Ill.

Sanchez suffered an injury to his ribs in training last week. A time table for his return has not been announced.

Koscheck had recently been tabbed for a main event bout with Yoshiyuki Yoshida at the UFC's "Fight for the Troops" on Dec. 10. It is unknown at this time whether Koscheck will still participate in the December outing.

The bout between Sanchez and Alves was viewed as a No. 1 contender bout, determining who would meet the winner of a January welterweight title clash between Georges St. Pierre and B.J. Penn. Koscheck will now look to earn that position on short notice.

For the latest news about UFC 90, check out the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
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God I hope Alves beats Koscheck...Alves V St. Pierre and Alves V Cote are fights I would pay to see.
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If Alves wins, he gets a shot at GSP's title..
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Lol shit, dunno what I was thinking there...To be fair it is 3 am and I was up at 7am yesterday. I think I meant Alves V Fitch.
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If Alves wins, he gets a shot at GSP's title..
He should but I don't think he will. Penn will get the first title shot so Alves or Koscheck will probably have to win again first.
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Fantastic job dude. Aside from possibly trying to go to full mouth when you went to half guard, that was faultless and even then I am being picking.

Ref should have stopped it 30 seconds earlier. The guy didn't even wanna be in there with you dude.
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Fantastic job dude. Aside from possibly trying to go to full mouth when you went to half guard, that was faultless and even then I am being picking.

Ref should have stopped it 30 seconds earlier. The guy didn't even wanna be in there with you dude.
im not sure where ur talking on the half gaurd... i dont think i tried to mount it from there... and his side of his body was on the fence so i dont think i could have. But yea I guess he tapped out i thought i got the tko... meh
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I thought right on the take down you could have gone straight to full mount (not full mouth as I previously said as that would be a whole other clip ) but whatever. Job done.

Bottom line - You got a knock out win didn't take a punch. Double thumbs up all around brother. You got another fight lined up?

I'm gonna go to the UFC TUF try outs with a couple of guys from my school. Hopefully they don't get humbled. One of them is super funny too so he'd be awesome on the show.
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ima try 2 get one in mid january so i can have my winter break 2 train for it. them ima go pro next summer after i graduate.
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I still wish I kept it standing... I barely threw a punch and he like gave me a bear hug. Looking at it, I was real off rhythm on my feet there. I usually throw faster and step first... oh well.
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Why wish you kept it standing? It was impressive enough the way it went down dude.
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