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Old 01-08-2009, 05:08 PM   #1
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Well, ROH might be moving slowly up in the world...
Yesterday, HDNet sent an official offer to Ring of Honor for a proposed one-hour weekly TV show. This is the first TV offer the promotion has ever received. As of now there is no word on the details of the deal or even if Ring of Honor has accepted the offer.

Credit: Wrestlingobserver.com

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Old 01-08-2009, 05:10 PM   #2
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So they will be going from defacto #3 promotion to defact #3 promtion with a 1 hour tv deal? (defecto in the usa)
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:14 PM   #3
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Pretty much. I mean, you can't expect them to jump up to #2 overnight, can you? Apparently ROH has been in talk with bigger networks than this before, but maybe just the appearance of an offer made public might help ROH negotiate better with other places.

I'd definitely call this a positive step.
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ROH will never be number 2 unless TNA crumbles. TNA caters to the mainstream wrestling fan, and that's who you have cater to to be considered successful in this country.

I'd rather see ROH stay as it is now than see it adapt and eventually transform into a sports entertainment promotion.
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ROH will never be number 2 unless TNA crumbles.
Which would be vitrually over night, and since that is the only way I expect RoH to become #2 (defacto #2 anyhow) I can expect them to become #2 over night. So suck on that. Noid can suck on it. Xero can too if he wished, but the suck on it comment was aimed at Noid.
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ROH will never be number 2 unless TNA crumbles. TNA caters to the mainstream wrestling fan, and that's who you have cater to to be considered successful in this country.

I'd rather see ROH stay as it is now than see it adapt and eventually transform into a sports entertainment promotion.
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This is good for wrestling I think. More on TV is never a bad thing. And if the show winds up suckign terribly it won't stay on long and we won't have to worry about it.
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So they will be going from defacto #3 promotion to defact #3 promtion with a 1 hour tv deal? (defecto in the usa)
Yeah, those chumps! No.3! Fuckn loosers. Out of what 10,000? Yeah they suck.
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Maybe the movie 'The Wrestler' had something to do with this?
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I knew this offer was in the works and I'm very happy about it ftr.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:55 PM   #11
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Yeah, those chumps! No.3! Fuckn loosers. Out of what 10,000? Yeah they suck.
They're number three in the sense that no one else is there. Yeah, they're a bit above most other indy promotions, but the leap from ROH to TNA in terms of success is ridiculously large.

Basically, there HAS to be a #3, ROH just happens to be there at the moment.
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Seriously. TNA is only considered #2 simply because they are there and nobody else is. They never have a chance in hell at reaching the success of WWE.
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They're number three in the sense that no one else is there. Yeah, they're a bit above most other indy promotions, but the leap from ROH to TNA in terms of success is ridiculously large.

Basically, there HAS to be a #3, ROH just happens to be there at the moment.
Think of all the other companies that are fighting to get on the map brother. Just because you can't see them doens't mean they aren't there. RoH is accomplishing something. Acting like being no.3 ins't an accomplishment is foolish.
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It takes a lot of hard work to get exposure. You guys act like it's some simple task to get big.
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ROH will never be number 2 unless TNA, CZW, XPW, NWA: Hollywood, NWA: Parts Unknown... you get the idea, I got bored with the joke already.
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ROH will never be number 2 unless TNA, CZW, XPW, NWA: Hollywood, NWA: Parts Unknown... you get the idea, I got bored with the joke already.
...you're not serious are you? Now I don't think for a second that RoH is ever gonna be no.2, but they're already ahead of every company you named save TNA.

I pretty sure you're kidding though. I hope so.
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Hmmm, I'd like to see a territory called NWA Parts Unknown, though.

How could they advertise the show venues though? How would you know how to get there?

And Bowfinger is on the TV, Heather Graham is fucking lovely.

I might drink now.
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ROH could be number 2

When I've introduced people into pro wrestling it's a lot easier to get them to watch ROH than TNA or WWE

but that may just be my expereinces and my talking up of ROH

My parents actually like some ROH and hate WWE

my gf likes wwe a little but likes ROH a hell of a lot more

She's pretty much indifferent towards TNA... that's sounds wrong for some reason
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There are a few promotions that I'm sure could overtake ROH within a year. You can't say the same about ROH to TNA or TNA to WWE.

It's nothing when it's a situation like that. When ROH is pulling down TNA-like ratings on national TV and running monthly PPVs, we can talk. Until then, ROH is nothing in terms of its success vs the big two.

For the record, I'm not saying ROH ISN'T successful compared to other indy promotions, just that the gap isn't nearly as steep.
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There are a few promotions that I'm sure could overtake ROH within a year. You can't say the same about ROH to TNA or TNA to WWE.

It's nothing when it's a situation like that. When ROH is pulling down TNA-like ratings on national TV and running monthly PPVs, we can talk. Until then, ROH is nothing in terms of its success vs the big two.

For the record, I'm not saying ROH ISN'T successful compared to other indy promotions, just that the gap isn't nearly as steep.
No doubt, but being the no.1 indy fed WITHOUT QUESTION is impressive and likewise being no.3 is too. But compairing them to the juggarnaut that is the WWE or the Panda Energy backed TNA and expecting them to pull the same numbers is rediculous. What they've accomplished in the 6 year run is VERY impressive.

...and unlike TNA they turn a profit...
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You say that, but WCW closed the gap on WWE in well under a year to be considered almost even footing, and within 2 years were in the lead. So it's possible, much like Vince took the WWF to the top within a year or two.
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You say that, but WCW closed the gap on WWE in well under a year to be considered almost even footing, and within 2 years were in the lead. So it's possible, much like Vince took the WWF to the top within a year or two.
WCW was around for along time though and brought in the built in NWA fan base.
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TNA also turns a profit. ROH has to be satisfied with the original 'ECW spot', but with a smart business brain in place, the 'ECW spot' isn't neccessarily a derogatory term.
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WCW was around for along time though and brought in the built in NWA fan base.
Doesn't matter how long the burger bar on the end of the street has been there if they serve the same 5 customers every day.

They had a bit of history behind them, but they created a more enjoyable product and brought in some big names, and very soon were snapping at WWE's heels.
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In the business world, the majority of successful companies have to be satisfied to operate at a loss for the first year, or sometimes several. It's the way it is. TNA have been building a foundation, at a cost. Now they are turning a profit. I'm not a massive fan, but I'm glad to see it.
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And yeah, the ECw spot is damn ood place to be.
As long as ROH doesn't bounce their checks.
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Doesn't matter how long the burger bar on the end of the street has been there if they serve the same 5 customers every day.

They had a bit of history behind them, but they created a more enjoyable product and brought in some big names, and very soon were snapping at WWE's heels.
You can't deny they had a leg up. Something TNA and RoH both would kill for. they both are having to build from the group. Which is nothing short of impressive. again, crapping on both TNA or RoH for being where they're at is really dumb. And compairing them to WCW and even dumber.
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In the business world, the majority of successful companies have to be satisfied to operate at a loss for the first year, or sometimes several. It's the way it is. TNA have been building a foundation, at a cost. Now they are turning a profit. I'm not a massive fan, but I'm glad to see it.
I agree.
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As long as ROH doesn't bounce their checks.
Checks??? Haha I'm sure they can afford to stump up the $20 out of the petty cash.
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You can't deny they had a leg up. Something TNA and RoH both would kill for. they both are having to build from the group. Which is nothing short of impressive. again, crapping on both TNA or RoH for being where they're at is really dumb. And compairing them to WCW and even dumber.
I don't deny it at all, but you know the landscape had changed so much between the JCP days and the WCW of, say, 1994 that nobody would really tune in out of familiarity, only to see the star names they recognise (much like TNA fans can do today, with Angle, Sting, Steiner, Nash et al). There was very little resemblance, and the only major argument you can make it for the lineage and history of the NWA title (which actually meant something to fans in those days). With belts nothing more than props today, even in WWE, that isn't really a factor you can consider.
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I don't deny it at all, but you know the landscape had changed so much between the JCP days and the WCW of, say, 1994 that nobody would really tune in out of familiarity, only to see the star names they recognise (much like TNA fans can do today, with Angle, Sting, Steiner, Nash et al). There was very little resemblance, and the only major argument you can make it for the lineage and history of the NWA title (which actually meant something to fans in those days). With belts nothing more than props today, even in WWE, that isn't really a factor you can consider.
The major argument I can make was the program went from being called NWA to WCW. They had the same audience when they turned over. This was a HUGE leg up.
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