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Old 03-03-2009, 09:38 PM   #41
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:38 PM   #42
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I mean, seriously, I see NO problem with not liking Michaels or Triple H, but to then go and put Kozlov and Festus ahead of them? Something's up your board's ass, clearly.

I want to hear the explanation of Superman Cena being on there ahead of Triple H and Michaels. You want to talk about shitty offense...
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:43 PM   #43
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:58 PM   #44
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It's such an uber-smark list and then Rey is 6 and Matt Hardy is 5.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:28 PM   #45
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What's with all the HBK ring rats on this board?
FUCK YOU! I AM AN ULTIMO DRAGON RING RAT FOR LIFE! :foc:
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:42 PM   #46
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HBK seems too high, can't think of anyone else on the list who has shittier offense.

55. Ian Rotten (6 votes, 342 points) - Great on the mat, great at selling, good brawler, watch IWA MS
50. Eddie Kingston (7 votes, 375 points) - Very good when not pretending to be Japanese
41. Todd Morton (7 votes including 2 top 5 votes and 1 top 10 vote, 448 points) - Watch XCW
37. 911 (8 votes, 496 points) - Lucha guy, not the ECW guy
34. Festus (10 votes, 521 points) - People dislike Festus?
18. Mark Henry (10 votes including 1 top 10 vote, 657 points) - He's been a great big man wrestler for the last few years. You're telling me you didn't watch his matches against Hardy and Finlay?
17. Necro Butcher (11 votes including 2 top 10 votes, 704 points) - He's been a great brawler for years
I've seen Ian Rotten. The answer is no. He is not great, period.
Eddie Kingston is one of the most overrated indy wrestlers out there right now.
I've seen Todd MOrton, once again, no.

Festus? Are you fucking kidding me?
Mark Henry isn't bad, but he's not the 18th best wrestler of 2008. No way in hell.

Don't get me started on Necro. Yeah, he's a great "brawler" if you want to call it that. The fact is, he can barely put on a passable match when he isn't fighting all over the arena. Yes, he has his moments, but at the same time, he has moments where he's extremely fucking sloppy too.

The fact is, HBK vs Flair at mania was better than anything the people listed above will probably ever do (minus 911, not because I think he will, but because I've never seen the lucha version.)

Anyway, you posted your little list here last year too, and I believe everyone got into the same argument about HBK. You're not going to win that argument. It's nearly impossible to argue that someone like Festus or Necro Butcher is better than HBK without sounding like some sort of elitist douche' who is desperately trying to justify his opinion and look smart, despite the fact that it's grounded in some sort of bizarre fantasy logic.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:55 PM   #47
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"NO no no Period blah blah"

Explain. List specific matches etc.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:01 AM   #48
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I like the way Festus transforms from a blithering retard into the cornfed colossus at the sound of a bell. You'd never see HBK transform from Michael Hickenbottom into the Showstoppa like that. That's talent you can't teach.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:47 AM   #49
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More retarded question: Where's Edge?

You put Ian "my greatest matches involve broken glass taped to my fists" Rotten in there but not Edge? Seriously, you put Ian "Mickie Knuckles, aka my prodigy, broke her leg in a balcony spot at one of my shows just after she signed a big deal with TNA" Rotten in this bullshit list instead of one of the best workers in the 'E, let alone in the main event? Come on.

Also, I actually have no complaints about Finlay being in the top 10. Even at his age he can work circles around most guys.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:18 AM   #50
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Yes, we put Ian "I work the mat for 95 percent of the match" Rotten on the list. If Edge didn't work like a diva, I'm sure he would have made the top 100.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:20 AM   #51
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Yes, we put Ian "I work the mat for 95 percent of the match" Rotten on the list. If Edge didn't work like a diva, I'm sure he would have made the top 100.
There goes all your creditability (if any), down the toilet. Anyone who can't recognize how great Edge has been is clearly retarded. Please leave.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:25 AM   #52
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Juan, I think you're pretty terrible for not recognizing how great Floyd Money Mayweather has been throughout the year 2008. Please leave.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:28 AM   #53
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Ultimo Tiger, you are a fraud. You don't like Ultimo Dragon at all, do you?
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:29 AM   #54
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Juan, I think you're pretty terrible for not recognizing how great Floyd Money Mayweather has been throughout the year 2008. Please leave.
Whatever man! WWE made him look like a huge pussy!
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:50 AM   #55
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I think you're all forgetting the fun match Kozlov had with Festus. This list is 100% legit.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:14 AM   #56
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I think we're all missing the scariest part here: this was voted on by an entire board. There's a whole legion of retards at his site.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:17 AM   #57
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I still want the Cena explanation, by the way. That one blows my mind.

Not because Cena's terrible, but because how this list was done and where everyone is/isn't.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:26 AM   #58
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Let's see... Ian Rotten technically RETIRED in 2007. He wrestles occasionally for fill ins, most notably in the King of the Death Match 2008, where he just did a ton of mat work I'm sure. Plus, he joined in on a beat down on a guy with little experience who he was dumb enough to book. So, once again, Ian Rotten, no. You find me matches from 2008 where he "works the mat" 95% of the time. Go on, do it.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:45 PM   #59
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This list does not have BDC Approval. I say we ban Ultimo Jackass.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:49 PM   #60
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Ultimo Tiger, you are a fraud. You don't like Ultimo Dragon at all, do you?
He's an Ultimo Tiger fan, a super catch/tech wrestler from Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg who does a bunch of simple heel stuff that people wet themselves over likes he's the second coming of Gorgeous George. The 13 fans at the barns he usually works often get deafened by chants of 'BEST IN THE CHARGOGGAGOGGMANCHAUGGAGOGGCHAUBUNAGUNGAMAUGG!' Look out for him in the 2009 WKO100 when he'll be listed in the top 10 behind such grapplers as El Burrito Plancha and Jim 'The Human German Suplex on the Gym Floor Machine' Smith
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:51 PM   #62
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You find me matches from 2008 where he "works the mat" 95% of the time. Go on, do it.
This also
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i personally feel that Ultimo Guerrero did not get his fair shake in this. to put him below HBK is a travesty and frankly i cannot take the list seriously until this injustice is rectified.
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This list does not have BDC Approval. I say we ban Ultimo Jackass.
Only if it's BDC approved.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:01 PM   #68
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If you don't know everyone in the top 10, you really shouldn't be commenting on the list.

Rotten vs Callihan - mostly matwork

Match link is somewhere around here:
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Oh, he is one of those fuckers. "If you don't know every indy piece of shit wrestler, then you aren't a real fan." Get the fuck out of here.
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lol @ the list.

Sorry, but if you agree with that list in whole, your fucked up and deserve your redundancy.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:04 PM   #71
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lol @ the list.

Sorry, but if you agree with that list in whole, your fucked up and deserve your redundancy.
He clearly doesn't agree with it in whole. He said Michaels should be lower.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:33 PM   #72
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If you don't know everyone in the top 10, you really shouldn't be commenting on the list.

Rotten vs Callihan - mostly matwork

Match link is somewhere around here:
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I'm not going to rummage through your forum looking for it. Post it here and I'll watch it.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:36 PM   #73
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Oh, he is one of those fuckers. "If you don't know every indy piece of shit wrestler, then you aren't a real fan." Get the fuck out of here.
I second this honestly. It's assholes like you that give the non-elitists who watch independent wrestling a bad name. When you say that 'Oh, you don't know one of these people, so you shouldn't have an opinion on this list", you look like a douche'. When your forum has a thread asking if people who don't watch Lucha Libre should be able to vote, you look like a douche'. It's sad, because for every guy who says something like "Hey, Bryan Danielson is a great wrestler, you should check him out." there is some asshole who says "WHAT?!?! You don't watch at least one Danielson match a week? How can you call yourself a fan of wrestling?"
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:43 PM   #74
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I second this honestly. It's assholes like you that give the non-elitists who watch independent wrestling a bad name. When you say that 'Oh, you don't know one of these people, so you shouldn't have an opinion on this list", you look like a douche'. When your forum has a thread asking if people who don't watch Lucha Libre should be able to vote, you look like a douche'. It's sad, because for every guy who says something like "Hey, Bryan Danielson is a great wrestler, you should check him out." there is some asshole who says "WHAT?!?! You don't watch at least one Danielson match a week? How can you call yourself a fan of wrestling?"
At first I thought you were agreeing with him, then I read your post. But here is a further 2 cents from BDC. I think I know way to much about wrestling, and I think I'm kind of a nerd/elitist...scratch that, I am an elitist. And I have a basic knowledge of who is who in the indy scene because people like Destor and WWKD bring them up. Now nothing against you guys, but it is kinda lame to spend all your free time watching tapes and going to shows. I think I spend way to much time doing it. I'm trying not to knock it, but when you get all elitist about "I've seen every match that has been wrestled this year," you are a fucking douche...well no you aren't Douches at least get some pussy.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:48 PM   #75
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Wait a minute.

This is an actual list from an actual forum?
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:07 PM   #76
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Out of curiosity BDC, how much of my free time do you actually think I spend watching tapes and going to shows?
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:26 PM   #77
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It takes considerably less time watching an obscure wrestling match than it does sitting through an entire episode of RAW. Remember that, kids.

BigDaddyCool, you strike me as a loathsome rube, not an elitist.

Please watch more wrestling.

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Old 03-04-2009, 06:39 PM   #78
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I checked out their forums, and it seems to be filled with lucha, indy, puro, uber-smarks.
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Out of curiosity BDC, how much of my free time do you actually think I spend watching tapes and going to shows?
It wasn't directed at you, it was directed at Ultimo Jackass.

But since you ask, 15 hours a week?
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