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Old 04-15-2009, 11:33 AM   #1
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BTW, I think having a WWE Champion and a World Champion are ridiculous.

It is not as though the WWE Champion just defends his title within the WWE, and the World Champion actually travels to Mexico, Japan, etc. defending it against the stars of their top promotions.
No, but WWE does do World Tours every once in a while, and I'm sure even if it's predetermined, that probably at least one location they go to each trip has a World Title match, but I know what you are saying.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:22 PM   #2
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No, but WWE does do World Tours every once in a while, and I'm sure even if it's predetermined, that probably at least one location they go to each trip has a World Title match, but I know what you are saying.
I always saw it as Vince getting the NWA belt, or World Heavyweight Title that his dad was screwed when I believe it was Buddy Rogers beating Thez (I think it was) and NWA not recognizing it, so Vince Sr (I guess) made his own belt and maid Rogers WWWF World Champ... now 50 years later he has both after buying WCW, could it be the ego trip?
Of course that’s all speculation...
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:16 PM   #3
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I always saw it as Vince getting the NWA belt, or World Heavyweight Title that his dad was screwed when I believe it was Buddy Rogers beating Thez (I think it was) and NWA not recognizing it, so Vince Sr (I guess) made his own belt and maid Rogers WWWF World Champ... now 50 years later he has both after buying WCW, could it be the ego trip?
Of course that’s all speculation...
The history of the WWE Title begins, in kayfabe, when Buddy Rogers beat Antonio Rocco in Rio de Janeiro (hmmm, and they had the first IC champ there too ) however it actually came into being when, as you said, Rogers won a match in which the NWA refused to acknowledge the title change. However, even with Vince McMahon owning the WCW Title, he DOES NOT own the NWA Title history in any way, shape or form. Technically, the WCW Title History dates back 1991. That's the belt he owns. The NWA Title is still it's own entity. It still has both legal and practical claims to one of the oldest titles in history, dating back to 1948.

Having said that, Vince McMahon insists that the World Title isn't even an extension of the WCW World Title. Therefore, it is, for all practical purposes, a belt that was created in 2003. Now granted it shares the classic "Big Gold Belt" design that has been used for both the WCW World Championship and the NWA World Heavyweight Championships at various points in time, but they are NOT the belt belts, nor do they carry the same linage. Just like the WCW World Title didn't carry the NWA World Title's history just because the belt design was the same.

In conclusion, if you have any questions about the World Titles and their proper history consult the thread I wrote about the issue several years back....

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