What is next for Shawn Michaels?

[Mr. Nerfect]

HBK being in one Money in the Bank Ladder Match at WrestleMania could be very cool. If there's nothing more pressing for him to do. But the thing is, he's Shawn Michaels, so there should always be something more pressing for him to do.

CM Punk should be in MITB next year, just so they can play off his streak, and I also want to see Rey in Money in the Bank. Morrison took a break, but he can go back. Evan Bourne can make his WrestleMania and Ladder Match debut in the event. Then you've got Shelton Benjamin who is just a mainstay of the match. Plus with The Brian Kendrick hopefully eventually getting out of the doghouse, he could make a great addition to that sort of environment. You just need to throw in someone else, and you've got a match.

CM Punk vs. Shawn Michaels vs. John Morrison vs. Rey Mysterio vs. The Brian Kendrick vs. Evan Bourne vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. fuck it, anyone else. That would be a sweet Money in the Bank.

[Casey Jones]

Originally Posted by Noid CM Punk should be in MITB next year, .

No, no, and no.

You are seriously a fucking idiot if you believe that Punk should be in the MITB next year.

Why? Because - if CM Punk is inserted into MITB next year, it will just re-iterate to the fans that he's nothing more than a glorified mid-carder...a mid-carder that will be a transitional champ at best whenever he decides to cash in.

The WWE should do whatever they can to make CM Punk look credible this year....and build him. CM Punk should be getting some clean victories over some legitimate top names....on a consistent basis.

By 2010, it should be a huge priority on the WWE's part to try and have Punk win the Royal Rumble.

THE WWE NEED NEW MAIN-EVENT TALENT.

Stop. Re-read that sentence again. Get it through your fucking skull. You and the WWE creative team for that matter.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Casey Jones No, no, and no. You are seriously a fucking idiot if you believe that Punk should be in the MITB next year. Why? Because - if CM Punk is inserted into MITB next year, it will just re-iterate to the fans that he's nothing more than a glorified mid-carder...a mid-carder that will be a transitional champ at best whenever he decides to cash in. The WWE should do whatever they can to make CM Punk look credible this year....and build him. CM Punk should be getting some clean victories over some legitimate top names....on a consistent basis. By 2010, it should be a huge priority on the WWE's part to try and have Punk win the Royal Rumble. THE WWE NEED NEW MAIN-EVENT TALENT. Stop. Re-read that sentence again. Get it through your fucking skull. You and the WWE creative team for that matter.

The WWE are building up other talent, dick. Matt Hardy has never looked so fucking credible. Jack Swagger won the ECW Title after four months. Evan Bourne and John Morrison, two relatively young guys just had what could end up being the free televised Match of the Year. Mr. Kennedy will be returning soon.

CM Punk won the past two MITB Ladder Matches. He's like the defending champion of that match now. When he cashes in the briefcase successfully, and is a three-time World Champion, he will boost the stock of the match instead of just filling one of its slots. Punk wanting to win his third adds drama to that match.

There is no shortage of guys who can fill the title matches for WrestleMania. If I want to see CM Punk in Money in the Bank while he can still get away with it, I'll go ahead and say it, thank you very much.

[sulzerdrone]

Originally Posted by Noid The WWE are building up other talent, dick. Matt Hardy has never looked so fucking credible. Jack Swagger won the ECW Title after four months. Evan Bourne and John Morrison, two relatively young guys just had what could end up being the free televised Match of the Year. Mr. Kennedy will be returning soon. CM Punk won the past two MITB Ladder Matches. He's like the defending champion of that match now. When he cashes in the briefcase successfully, and is a three-time World Champion, he will boost the stock of the match instead of just filling one of its slots. Punk wanting to win his third adds drama to that match. There is no shortage of guys who can fill the title matches for WrestleMania. If I want to see CM Punk in Money in the Bank while he can still get away with it, I'll go ahead and say it, thank you very much.

I believe what you meant to say was

But the panel will also accept your answer.

[Casey Jones]

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Originally Posted by Noid The WWE are building up other talent, dick. Matt Hardy has never looked so fucking credible.

And again...you miss the point you moron.

THERE IS NO POINT IN MAKING SOMEONE LOOK CREDIBLE IF IT ULTIMATELY DOES NOT MATERIALIZE. Stop. Re-read that sentence. Now read it again.

Your argument is completely predicated on the idea that the WWE does a good job of elevating talent...when this is clearly not the case. Again - look at Chavo Guerrero as an example (when he beat Rey Mysterio). Look at how the WWE screwed up with Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Benoit.

The WWE's main goal should be in trying to create PERMANENT main-eventers....not temporary and transitional champions....and this has been their biggest fault.

Your post suggests that you expect the WWE to make Matt Hardy into a long-term main-eventer based on his recent actions. Given the WWE's track record however, this is not the case.

Jack Swagger won the ECW Title after four months. Evan Bourne and John Morrison, two relatively young guys just had what could end up being the free televised Match of the Year. Mr. Kennedy will be returning soon.

Not enough people care about ECW to respect Swagger's accomplishment. The moment Swagger steps on to RAW or Smackdown, he won't have anywhere near the "credibility" that you are suggesting.

As far as Morrison and Bourne goes - again....no one watches ECW. The WWE are at fault for not putting a match like that on RAW, while you are at fault for thinking that enough people will see/know about that match.

You once again prove that you are a moron.

CM Punk won the past two MITB Ladder Matches. He's like the defending champion of that match now. When he cashes in the briefcase successfully, and is a three-time World Champion, he will boost the stock of the match instead of just filling one of its slots. Punk wanting to win his third adds drama to that match.

It doesn't "add to the drama" you stupid pissant.

BEING A PART OF MITB ONLY RE-ITERATES THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A MID-CARDER OR ARE A VETERAN PUTTING OVER YOUNGER TALENT

Stop. Re-read that sentence again.

Being a MITB champ is the modern day equivalent of being a King of the Ring champion. The winner should only be a guy that is on the verge of rising....and it serves no purpose to have the same guy win it back to back years, since it doesn't allow other new guys to use that 'title' as a stepping stone.

Since you seem to have a hard on for Evan Bourne, I would argue that a guy like Evan Bourne should win MITB next year.

There is no shortage of guys who can fill the title matches for WrestleMania.

Umm....actually there is you ignorant and stupid fuck.

One of the WWE's biggest problems right now is that no legit, non-transitional, main-eventers have been created in years. Guys like Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, and Eddie Guerrero do NOT count since they ultimately ended up in the same spot as they started out.....and never ascended back to that level.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Casey Jones Your argument is completely predicated on the idea that the WWE does a good job of elevating talent...when this is clearly not the case. Again - look at Chavo Guerrero as an example (when he beat Rey Mysterio). Look at how the WWE screwed up with Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Benoit. The WWE's main goal should be in trying to create PERMANENT main-eventers....not temporary and transitional champions....and this has been their biggest fault. Your post suggests that you expect the WWE to make Matt Hardy into a long-term main-eventer based on his recent actions. Given the WWE's track record however, this is not the case.

My post indicates that there is talent in the process of being elevated. WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE CM PUNK RIGHT FUCKING NOW AND NO ONE ELSE?!?!

See, cut out the caps, it is annoying. I couldn't even quote them they were so annoying.

Originally Posted by Casey Jones Not enough people care about ECW to respect Swagger's accomplishment. The moment Swagger steps on to RAW or Smackdown, he won't have anywhere near the "credibility" that you are suggesting. As far as Morrison and Bourne goes - again....no one watches ECW. The WWE are at fault for not putting a match like that on RAW, while you are at fault for thinking that enough people will see/know about that match.

Hey, you actually made a post with some sense to it. Some. You are right about ECW not holding the credibility of RAW or SmackDown!, but Swagger has been allowed to have a competitive showing with John Cena. It is obvious the WWE wants him higher than the mid-card level. They are in the process of elevating him. Regardless of him becoming a smaller fish in a bigger pond, he's still not exactly going down, is he?

I think it is more pressing that those backstage watch the John Morrison vs. Evan Bourne match than the fans, pissant. They can look at these guys and say "these guys have the good" and feel safe about pushing them. Both guys are over, and the only way for them to really go is up.

Originally Posted by Casey Jones It doesn't "add to the drama" you stupid pissant. Being a MITB champ is the modern day equivalent of being a King of the Ring champion. The winner should only be a guy that is on the verge of rising....and it serves no purpose to have the same guy win it back to back years, since it doesn't allow other new guys to use that 'title' as a stepping stone. Since you seem to have a hard on for Evan Bourne, I would argue that a guy like Evan Bourne should win MITB next year.

Wrong. It is random mid-carders winning the World Title that makes them look like failures as main eventers, and justifies the WWE clinging to their already established talent, at least in their own minds.

The MITB match should not be for mid-carders. Mid-carders should not have a contract which states they are pretty much guaranteed to be a World Champion within a year. That is just fucking ridiculous. Why don't we just have Sim Snuka win the WWE Championship tomorrow?

Yeah, guys can use MITB to break-through, but having Kofi Kingston win the match this year, or Evan Bourne win it next year, are just not the strongest moves the WWE could make. A guy like CM Punk this year strengthens the match, and can provide weight to it next year.

If you hadn't noticed, MITB is just a way to get all the talent they can't fit in one-on-one programs on the WrestleMania card to showcase them. The World Title prize just heightens the importance of the booking. Just so it doesn't reek of filler. You are dealing with a World Title shot, though. That should not go to a mid-carder unless they are fucking ready to step up.

Have you maybe thought that the King of the Ring is the modern day equivalent to the King of the Ring? Just asking.

Originally Posted by Casey Jones Umm....actually there is you ignorant and stupid fuck. One of the WWE's biggest problems right now is that no legit, non-transitional, main-eventers have been created in years. Guys like Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, and Eddie Guerrero do NOT count since they ultimately ended up in the same spot as they started out.....and never ascended back to that level.

Let's see, whether we like them or not, John Cena, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Batista, Randy Orton, Edge, Chris Jericho, Big Show and The Undertaker are all WrestleMania headliners under contract. Rey Mysterio has wrestled in a World Heavyweight Title match at WrestleMania that wasn't the main event. That's over a fucking tournament. Considering that realistically, the ECW Title is not on that level, you need less than half those guys to formulate the entire main event title scene for WrestleMania.

* Chris Jericho vs. The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Title
* Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Title

There you go, two matches set. The WWE has got plenty of main event talent floating around. Perhaps too much, if you ask me. Yeah, the older guys need to start putting over the younger guys, but that comes with them stepping out of the way, too.