Hardy leaving WWE

[Casey Jones]

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Fiction: I don't think CM Punk should win MITB next year. I think he should be in the Ladder Match, but I don't think he should win.

So in other words - you think CM Punk should take a step backwards.

I'm just trying to understand this correctly....since apparently, these types of arguments make sense to everyone on here except for me.

-You want CM Punk to be in the ladder match (as opposed to being involved in a world title match of some kind.....or even going up against a guy like Undertaker or Triple H one-on-one even if it's a non-title match)

-You want CM Punk to be used to PUT OVER someone else.

I just want to make sure I understand you correctly.

I don't even know how to classify this: Some would say that Jeff Hardy was already pushed to the moon. I mean, all that was left for him to do was unify the titles at WrestleMania. This is despite Jeff Hardy being everything the WWE is trying to avoid with their wellness policy.

-A clean victory would have done more for this career.
-Not jobbing just a few months into his world title reign would've meant more.

We seem to have different interpretations of what being 'pushed to the moon' is.

I am of the opinion that winning the world title doesn't necessarily equate to becoming established as a LONG-TERM main-eventer.......despite whether one gets pushed to the moon or not.

Case in point(s): Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, and Eddie Guerrero. All of these guys were "pushed to the moon" and won world titles, but all of these guys basically returned to their original spot on the cards a year or so later.

By contrast - look at guys like Dave Batista, John Cena, and Brock Lesnar. Look at what happened to Kurt Angle eventually. Edge is another guy (although even Edge and Angle were perceived as transitional champs for the longest time before they broke that barrier).

THAT is the type of push that I am talking about. Guys that make it to the top and STAY on top. Heck - even a douche like John Bradshaw Layfield became more than a "non-transitional" champ around 04-05.

Comprendez?

Do you understand that the WWE put this policy in place for a reason? Do you understand that someone who violates this policy isn't just an "oh well" to the WWE? This policy is in-place for a reason. Pretending it doesn't exist defeats the purpose of even having it.

I understand it. However, like I explained to Destor, I think the rewards would have outweighed the risks. If Hardy fucked up, he could've been fired. The guy that would have given him the 'clean win' (i.e. Taker, HHH, Edge) wouldn't have lost anything by doing the job. They would still be credible, and could still be used to put over someone else at a later date. No big loss.

Guys like Jeff Hardy and William Regal only have themselves to blame for their interrupted pushes. And Hardy was a fucking WWE Champion, anyway. Again, it is his choice to leave. The WWE actually want him to stay.

I'm finally glad we agree on something you dunce.