NFL 2009 Off Season Thread

[SammyG]

What? you kiddin' me? Buck and Aikman are amazing.

[screech]

Joe Buck knows nothing about the two sports he commentates. Troy Aikman is just stupid.

Plus, they're voices are so monotone...it's terrible.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Buck's not a good football guy in my opinion. Baseball he's fine, but in football he doesn't keep up with the game and doesn't seem to know that much about it. Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call.

Aikman's not bad, but he, like almost every other Fox commentator takes the game way too seriously. The CBS guys have a nice, relaxed demeanor where their job is to present the game to the fans in a manner that's entertaining and exciting. Fox guys seem like they're doing a crappy war documentary.

[SammyG]

I dunno. Would much rather listen to FOX guys

[SammyG]

Maybe it's the whole thing. I am in love with that robot.

[Krimzon7]

I don not want Boldin to the Ravens. Hell, Player for Player BOldin for Ochostinko would be epic. Everyone wins!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call.

He does technically work for Fox, so I was not too surprised by the overreaction.

[parkmania]

I just hope Comcast can get the NFL Network to get their head out of their ass and take the money so that I get to see the Thursday Night games.

[Loose Cannon]

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus NFC South plays the NFC and AFC East this year.. Saints also play the Rams and and the Lions.. LOL

yea, I KNOW!!!!!

The Panthers play the Jets in NY

[Kris P Lettus]

Originally Posted by parkmania I just hope Comcast can get the NFL Network to get their head out of their ass and take the money so that I get to see the Thursday Night games.

Where do you live??

I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

[DrA]

I can't believe Jason Smith is already one of the biggest stars of this draft. He went to the same high school I went to and I kinda remember him getting recruited. He was this no name tight end that went to Baylor, and now it looks like he is going to be the second pick in the draft.

[parkmania]

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus Where do you live?? I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

I live in the hometown of the defending Super Bowl Champs. (It's not every year I get to say that, so I get it in where I can.) I don't go to bars, and all my buddies have cable same as me.

[VonErichLives]

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus Where do you live?? I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

Krisp, doesn't matter where you live, Comcast doesn't carry the NFL network, unless they work out a deal this year.

Dish and DTV carry it.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon Buck's not a good football guy in my opinion. Baseball he's fine, but in football he doesn't keep up with the game and doesn't seem to know that much about it. Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call. Aikman's not bad, but he, like almost every other Fox commentator takes the game way too seriously. The CBS guys have a nice, relaxed demeanor where their job is to present the game to the fans in a manner that's entertaining and exciting. Fox guys seem like they're doing a crappy war documentary.

I think it comes down to who you watch more and have to listen to more. I obviously watch more FOX broadcasts because the Giants play on FOX. I personally can't stand most of the CBS guys. My whole thing with commentators is that if they don't annoy me they're okay.

[Heros Welcome]

Dirty Birds bring in Tony Gonzalez for a Second round pick in NEXT years draft.

I gotta say I am VERY happy with this deal. We get a leader and a stud at the TE spot. Makes Ryan even better, and now we can focus our entire draft on defense this year and not have to think about taking Pettigrew.

[ClockShot]

Artie Blank or whoever the hell is running the Falcons when Ryan came in is making all the right moves.

[Heros Welcome]

Arther Blank is writing the checks. Thomas Dimitroff, our GM, is running the show. And he has made all the right moves indeed. Making progress without a doubt!

<<<<<<< Dimitroff

[Gonzo]

Its a nice addition for the Falcons but the value is poor in my opinion. A second round pick for a TE well past his prime?

[Heros Welcome]

I look at it like this. We gave up a second for NEXT years draft. The focus is now 100% defense in this draft. We still have our comp picks for next year with Boley and Foxworth going elsewhere.

We gain a leader and a guy who can still ball. I mean he had 96 catches 1058 yards and 10 TD`s on a bad team. I think if anyone got the shaft value wise it was the Chiefs.

[RoXer]

Look, I would love to keep Boldin. Sure. That is the #1 priorty.

But him for Todd Heap and possibly Knoshawn Moreno?

yesyesyesyesyesyeysyeysyeysyssyeysy

[LoDownM]

I just saw that Gonzalez was traded. I'm sad now

[RP]

ANTHONY GONZALES TRADED WT MOTHER FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[RP]

Oh, Tony Gonzales from the cheifs. Thank God.

[RP]

Going into the draft, i really wish the Colts would make a power play for Aaron Curry, but i dont think that will happen at all. I really like this guy. I've read his blog on SI and i just wish we somehow had the oppurtunity to select him.

Maluaga may be there at #27. Doubt it though. I really think the Colts can get the same type of DT in round 2 or 3 that they can get in round 1 so i doubt they pick a DT. Percy Harvin seemed like the choice until he toked up like a moron, so i doubt that we'll pick him.

Knowshon Moreno might be ther and he might not. I dont know. If he's there, i'm positive the Colts would take him because Addai hasnt show much the past 2 years and he'll be due for that extension soon and i dont think Indy wants to pay him if he's not worth it.

If Knowshon isnt there, i dunno. I've seen Lauranitis attached to Indy, but Indy dont pay LB's at all. They've let a ton of them go. I'd be suprised if they took the 2nd best middle LB in the draft. If Maluaga is there, they take him. If not, i dunno.

I've seen Brian Robinski attached to us too. I cant see it happening though for 2 reasons. 1) They can get him in the 2nd round and 2) They have a player just like him in Gonzo.

My feeling is that Indy takes Hakeem Nicks, unless Knowshon Moreno is there. But if Kenny Britt is there and Knowshon isnt there, I think Indy takes Britt over Nicks. If Moreno and Britt are gone, then its Nicks.

[RP]

Wayne restuctered his contract too. Indy might be up to something here. They might move up in the draft or make a trade for a reciever who is being offered like Bolding or Edwards. Not sure. But restructering a contract before the draft is kind of unheard of for the Colts. Something may be up here.

[RP]

The reason i think this might be to make some sort of move is because Indy was 7 Million under the cap and had more then enough to sign there draft picks. I'm wondering if they make a move up the board to get a higher pick.

[LoDownM]

Originally Posted by VonErichLives Krisp, doesn't matter where you live, Comcast doesn't carry the NFL network, unless they work out a deal this year. Dish and DTV carry it.

I have Comcast and have NFL Network and the HD channel for it.

[Kris P Lettus]

Supreme, tell me about Malcolm Jenkins..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm on the fence about whether he can play CB in the NFL and I'm leaning toward no. He's got decent speed and really good hands but he's got a mean streak that's so rare at the CB position. Personally I think he'd excel as roving safety. But either way he'd be a good pick for the Saints.

[ClockShot]

Word going around is that the Broncos are gonna trade up and grab Sanchez. Of course Josh McDevil denies it.

DON'T DO IT! I WANT DEFENSE!

[Kris P Lettus]

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon I'm on the fence about whether he can play CB in the NFL and I'm leaning toward no. He's got decent speed and really good hands but he's got a mean streak that's so rare at the CB position. Personally I think he'd excel as roving safety. But either way he'd be a good pick for the Saints.

Yeah, it's between him and Beanie on most mocks ATM.. I really think we should go for a OLB or a DB (as I've thought for the past 3 years) but the thought of getting a big bruising RB, who's been compared to Clinton Portis, is getting more and more appealing the closer to draft day we get.. It's fine if he'd be a better fit at Safety cause we def need help there too and we haven't drafted a safety since 2006 (Roman Harper) but we've gotten CBs like every year (Usama Young, Tracy Porter, etc).. Harper in a great tackler and a head hunter when brought down to the line, but is very weak in over the top coverage, which we desperately need.. Tracy Porter was well on his way to becoming a shut down corner, until he was injured and Usama Young is a natrually atheltic DB, but shines more as a nickle or dime..

I am torn..

[Heros Welcome]

With a day till the draft I figured I would post my final mock

1. Detroit Lions- QB Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams- OT Jason Smith Baylor
3. Kansas City Chiefs- OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forrest
4. Seattle Seahawks- QB Mark Sanchez USC
5. Cleveland Browns- DT BJ Raji Boston College
6. Cincinnati Bengals- OT Eugene Monroe Virginia
7. Oakland Raiders- WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
8. Jacksonville Jags- OT Andre Smith Alabama
9. Green Bay Packers- DE Brian Orakpo Texas
10. San Francisco 49ers-WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
11. Buffalo Bills- DE Everette Brown Florida State
12. Denver Broncos- DE Tyson Jackson LSU
13. Washington Redskins- LB Brian Cushing USC
14. New Orleans Saints- CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
15. Houston Texans- LB Clay Matthews USC
16. San Diego Chargers- LB Rey Maualuga USC
17. New York Jets- TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
18. Denver Broncos- DT Peria Jerry Mississippi
19. Tampa Bay Bucs- QB Josh Freeman Kansas State
20. Detroit Lions- DE Aaron Maybin Penn State
21. Philadelphia Eagles- RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia
22. Minnesota Vikings- OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
23. New England Pats- CB Vontae Davis Illinois
24. Atlanta Falcons- DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood Missouri
25. Miami Dolphins- CB Darius Butler Connecticut
26. Baltimore Ravens- WR Darius Heywood Bey Maryland
27. Indianapolis Colts- RB Chris “Beanie” Wells Ohio State
28. Buffalo Bills- OT Eben Britton Arizona
29. New York Giants- WR Kenny Britt Rutgers
30. Tennessee Titans- DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
31. Arizona Cardinals- RB Donald Brown Connecticut
32. Pittsburgh Steelers- OT Max Unger Oregon

[Hanso Amore]

Originally Posted by Heros Welcome With a day till the draft I figured I would post my final mock 1. Detroit Lions- QB Matthew Stafford Georgia 2. St. Louis Rams- OT Jason Smith Baylor 3. Kansas City Chiefs- OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forrest 4. Seattle Seahawks- QB Mark Sanchez USC 5. Cleveland Browns- DT BJ Raji Boston College 6. Cincinnati Bengals- OT Eugene Monroe Virginia 7. Oakland Raiders- WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 8. Jacksonville Jags- OT Andre Smith Alabama 9. Green Bay Packers- DE Brian Orakpo Texas 10. San Francisco 49ers-WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 11. Buffalo Bills- DE Everette Brown Florida State 12. Denver Broncos- DE Tyson Jackson LSU 13. Washington Redskins- LB Brian Cushing USC 14. New Orleans Saints- CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State 15. Houston Texans- LB Clay Matthews USC 16. San Diego Chargers- LB Rey Maualuga USC 17. New York Jets- TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State 18. Denver Broncos- DT Peria Jerry Mississippi 19. Tampa Bay Bucs- QB Josh Freeman Kansas State 20. Detroit Lions- DE Aaron Maybin Penn State 21. Philadelphia Eagles- RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 22. Minnesota Vikings- OT Michael Oher Ole Miss 23. New England Pats- CB Vontae Davis Illinois 24. Atlanta Falcons- DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood Missouri 25. Miami Dolphins- CB Darius Butler Connecticut 26. Baltimore Ravens- WR Darius Heywood Bey Maryland 27. Indianapolis Colts- RB Chris “Beanie” Wells Ohio State 28. Buffalo Bills- OT Eben Britton Arizona 29. New York Giants- WR Kenny Britt Rutgers 30. Tennessee Titans- DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 31. Arizona Cardinals- RB Donald Brown Connecticut 32. Pittsburgh Steelers- OT Max Unger Oregon

Very good mock. I honestly dont see Pettigrew goin to the Jets, but It is a remote chance.

But the Rest is hard to argue with. Th Broncos would be off to a great start to the 3-4 with those picks.

I know Sanchez to the Seahawks is popular pick, but they can make t he playoffs this year possibly, so I think they go with someone who can make and impact RIGHT NOW.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm thinking the Bolts are gonna go after a RB to eventually replace LT..

[Heros Welcome]

I went with Pettigrew to the Jets because I think with Maclin not falling to them, I can see them showing value in a blocking TE who also has a presence over the middle, and then they can split out Keller to the outside in some sets.

Also they'll be a run heavy team, its nice to give Leon and Thomas some more space with the best blocking TE in the draft.

With Sanchez...Yeah I fell into the hype of him to the Seahawks. I mean they are a good team and just got hurt bad last year with injuries, but with the chance of the future QB to succeed Hasselback, I think you have to pull the trigger. I would be worried of a QB at 33 with back problems.

[Hanso Amore]

Originally Posted by Heros Welcome I went with Pettigrew to the Jets because I think with Maclin not falling to them, I can see them showing value in a blocking TE who also has a presence over the middle, and then they can split out Keller to the outside in some sets. Also they'll be a run heavy team, its nice to give Leon and Thomas some more space with the best blocking TE in the draft. With Sanchez...Yeah I fell into the hype of him to the Seahawks. I mean they are a good team and just got hurt bad last year with injuries, but with the chance of the future QB to succeed Hasselback, I think you have to pull the trigger. I would be worried of a QB at 33 with back problems.

True. Good points on the Jets. It would make sense. Honestly they could probably upgrade a few spots with the pick, I wouldnt be surprised to see them take Hakeem Nicks or reach for Heyward-Bey to replace Coles.

[ClockShot]

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus I'm thinking the Bolts are gonna go after a RB to eventually replace LT..

I thought it was determined that Darren Sproles was gonna be next in line.

[Hanso Amore]

As for the Seahawks, If Holmgren was still around I would say they would just draft a mid round QB like Davis or Bomar to develop, but maybe the do go Sanchez with the new regime.

[Hanso Amore]

Originally Posted by ClockShot I thought it was determined that Darren Sproles was gonna be next in line.

Sproles will never be a feature back. He can be a great Reggie Bush like weapon, but he cant touch the ball 25+ plus a game.

They would be well served to take a look at a grinder like Beanie or Shonn Greene, maybe even that kid from Liberty!

[Hanso Amore]

I think the Bills take one of the top 4 tackles if one is still there. THen they use 28 on a DE if Pettigrew isnt there.