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Old 06-02-2009, 05:30 PM   #121
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To follow up on reports over the weekend regarding the release of Mr. Kennedy, while a discussion went down backstage between Randy Orton and Kennedy following last week's Monday Night Raw taping in what was described as Orton giving a rather stern lecture on Kennedy needing to be more careful in the ring and work on improving after Kennedy dropped him on his shoulder where he suffered a serious collarbone injury, that wasn't the reason for his release from the company.

Later that evening, two major WWE stars who were not fans of Kennedy went to Vince McMahon and took the opportunity to let their feelings be known about the matter reports The Figure Four Weekly Newsletter. Vince McMahon, who was already said to be in a very bad mood after the dispute over Denver and the NBA, decided then and there on the plane ride home that Kennedy was reckless, still green as a worker, clueless when it came to business instincts and was a huge liability. Reportedly no one in WWE creative or talent relations felt the need to speak up for Kennedy.

Many sources have described this as a situation where McMahon was already stressed out with the Denver situation that having to deal with Kennedy made things even worse and that Kennedy was the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. McMahon was said to be so upset that he wasn't even considering working with Kennedy in the future and made that clear to those around him. While many feel he will eventually cool off, one WWE source added, "I cannot condemn the way the office handled this termination at all. He was reckless with his mouth and at other times with his in-ring." It should also be noted that two other major WWE stars also buried Kennedy to McMahon and WWE officials saying they hated working with him and "thought he was horrible and clumsy."
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #122
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two other major WWE Stars...

Any money one of them being named Helmsley?
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:55 PM   #123
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As I understand it, H was a big proponent of Kennedy.
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:05 PM   #124
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Maybe Regal, who seemed to have a little bit of genuine venom in his tongue when he called Kennedy a "muppet" on commentary a couple of weeks ago.
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:15 PM   #125
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:30 PM   #126
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:33 PM   #127
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lol Vince, bless him. They're pushing the ball with this 'creating new stars' thing but he'll still never change when it comes to making rash decisions on the spot
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Maybe Regal, who seemed to have a little bit of genuine venom in his tongue when he called Kennedy a "muppet" on commentary a couple of weeks ago.
Remember when he hit Kennedy with a beautiful punch right in the face? That was awesome!

Hey, I remembered something involving Kennedy. Good for him.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:16 AM   #129
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So my TV will be Kennedy free...


much like the last several months
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:28 PM   #131
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Regarding top wrestlers complaining to Vince McMahon about Mr. Kennedy, one source said, “People blow spots at house shows and TV every week. There’s blowing spots and then there’s reckless and green.” One example given was that while Rob Van Dam is known for catching opponents with the occasional potato shots, no one feared working with him. “A black eye maybe,” said the source, “but no one worried about suffering an actual injury.”

And how many guys has Mark Henry injured???
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:29 PM   #133
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Mark Henry had an extremely long contract which Mcmahon didn't feel like canceling
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:06 PM   #134
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Henry hasn't injured anyone recently though...

Regardless, I think this is harsh on Kennedy, regardless of him generally, for them to bring him back to TV only to be fired because McMahon had a bad night
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #135
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It would have cost him far too much to cancel it. And Ken Kennedy isn't a big black man who was legit at one point the strongest man in the world and a Olympian.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:09 PM   #137
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I am a big fan of Mr. Kennedy. I was a fan of his when he first showed up on Velocity, and did his shtick, and worked a pretty fun match. I do not get these claims that he is a horrible worker. I've enjoyed much of Kennedy's work. If a dude can get Batista into gear enough to work a good match, then they've got something to their name.

But that being said -- yes, he has lost steam over the years since he had that minor injury, and the WWE freaked out and pulled the Money in the Bank briefcase from him. Let's face it, if Kennedy had cashed that in, he'd have won a World Title, it would have been as a heel (he was parading around claiming he was going to use it at WrestleMania, but we all knew that wasn't the case), so there would have been no shitty face turn. Kennedy's run as a face kind of derailed him further. He suffered from that "now that I'm a good guy I'm a nice guy" syndrome, which has taken its toll on many potential stars over the years.

I have never worked in a ring with Mr. Kennedy, however. If he is sloppy, I am surprised word didn't come out earlier. I mean, we heard about it when Rob Van Dam was breaking people's noses. It also didn't stop him from eventually winning the WWE Championship. If it's because he hurt Randy Orton, then Orton needs to harden the fuck up. It was Kennedy's first match back on RAW. There'd be ring rust, nerves, and it's not like Orton is such a crisp worker himself.

This release seems very hasty. I would have probably jobbed Kennedy out first before releasing him, because the guy has got quite a lot of talent and credibility. You know TNA has been calling him, and you just know Kennedy is itching to stick it to the man. With Elijah Burke also nudging around The Impact Zone, TNA has got two men who could have been major stars for the WWE under wing. Matt Morgan and Taylor Wilde would also belong on that list.

I believe that this situation will evolve further, and resolve itself with Kennedy ending up back under contract before his no-compete clause runs out, probably on one of the other brands, so as to keep him away from the egos on RAW. Or we'll see Ken Anderson possibly burn bridges, and get a career going elsewhere.
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LOL Sept. 1.
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The WWE could turn this into a huge angle when Vince cools down a bit.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:22 AM   #141
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I can not remember the last time a firing thread received this much attention.

Says a lot about how polarizing Ken Anderson is. This could legitimately be what launches him into superstardom if the WWE allows HIM to utilize it properly.

Who cares about his ring work? that didn't prevent hogan, foley, sting(now) from being Stars.
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I can not remember the last time a firing thread received this much attention.

Says a lot about how polarizing Ken Anderson is. This could legitimately be what launches him into superstardom if the WWE allows HIM to utilize it properly.

Who cares about his ring work? that didn't prevent hogan, foley, sting(now) from being Stars.
Ken Kennedy is an amazing heel. Who else could get this kind of heat?
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Only person I can think of immediately is Hogan.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:48 AM   #144
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True. Hogan could get this level of heat for waking up.
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Hogan gets "oh I'm an internet mark, and I recently found out about WORKRATE therefore I FUCKING HATEZ THE HOGAN" heat. Kennedy just gets X-Pac heat, but is a salvagable case.
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I can not remember the last time a firing thread received this much attention.

Says a lot about how polarizing Ken Anderson is. This could legitimately be what launches him into superstardom.
....until he gets injured again
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Old 06-07-2009, 01:02 AM   #148
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Hogan gets "oh I'm an internet mark, and I recently found out about WORKRATE therefore I FUCKING HATEZ THE HOGAN" heat. Kennedy just gets X-Pac heat, but is a salvagable case.
I don't know. When I picture "X-Pac heat," I picture the guy not getting cheered.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:23 AM   #149
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I don't mean X-Pac heat in the arena, I mean on the net... if that makes sense?? :S

The main difference is that Kennedy actually has his supporters too... it's just that the heat he does get tends to be more "go away, I don't want to watch you" heat, rather than "I HATE THIS FUCKER" heat.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:41 AM   #150
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i'd say thats the same for X-pac
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Old 06-07-2009, 01:22 PM   #151
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Maybe Regal, who seemed to have a little bit of genuine venom in his tongue when he called Kennedy a "muppet" on commentary a couple of weeks ago.
The idea that anyone can identify whether Regal is in or out of character is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. The only time I'll ever believe that Regal isn't in character is if he's speaking sans accent.
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:30 PM   #152
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X-Pac heat with the IWC is easy.
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I mean, you don't often see Kennedy getting heat in the arena when he isn't supposed to, yet he gets knocked a lot online. Which is a fast turnaround considering two years ago he was heralded as "the next Rock" online, including on these boards.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:57 PM   #154
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This may sound silly, but I'm suddenly starting to think this whole thing actually IS a work, given the recent Batista issue, and Kennedy's sudden interest in it.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:09 PM   #155
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Like I said...seems a lot like Matt Hardy.
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Like I said...seems a lot like Matt Hardy.
I think this one may be a bit more calculating though. Let's look at some key points:

- As far as I can remember (or know) nobody has ever really complained about Kennedy being sloppy in the past. Hell, if he was, then why was he rushed back from FCW so soon? They gave him like, 2 weeks down here to work off ring rust, so he must have been quick to get back into shape.

- With pretty much the entire internet calling when his next injury would be, and everybody claiming it would happen his first night back, what bigger dupe then to actually go through with something like that? Which leads to...

- Is Kennedy REALLY that stupid? The guy gets his seemingly final chance at stardom, and he foolishly blows it his first night back? You would think he'd be UBER careful, ESPECIALLY in his first match back. But to not only "almost injure" Orton, but then "injure" himself?

- Even all of that though, I chalked up to unfortunate dumb luck, because let's face it, Kennedy is pretty fucking cursed. But then this comes out, from TPWW's front page: "Recently released WWE star Ken Kennedy has posted the following tweet on his Twitter page commenting on Batista’s triceps injury: “I know everyone’s saying stuff about Batista, but I gotta say that he’s one of the best guys in the locker room. No ego, always trying to help.”" and "According to sources, there may be more to the Batista situation than what has been reported. Once source speculated that, “Something occurred, it just may not have been a muscle tear issue.” We’ll see if there’s anything to this in the coming days. Mr. Kennedy’s twitter statement on Batista earlier seemed a bit odd as well. Not so sure that was really his feelings on Dave. He also just posted this message elevate younger talent. Take that for what it’s worth." Now, Ryan Clark is a douche, we all know that. But it's interesting food for thought, for once.
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Then again, I could also be overspeculating. Brainstorming, if you will.
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