NBA 2009 Off Season Thread - Page 2

RP · 06-20-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

Is that Kobe with Kim Kardashian?

**SammyG** · 06-20-2009, 08:32 PM

No, that's Kobe's wife, Vanessa.

**Loose Cannon** · 06-20-2009, 08:41 PM

who is that Purto Rican on the right playing a little pocket pool?

**The Gold Standard** · 06-20-2009, 09:00 PM

One year from now the Knicks will gave LeBron!!

**Loose Cannon** · 06-20-2009, 09:03 PM

Lebron James and Steph Curry.

But you know the Knicks and there fucking draft picks.

and the NY Knicks select.....out of Iceland, Radmmira Vokalaj.

AHHH WTF

**Juan** · 06-20-2009, 09:51 PM

lol

**VonErichLives** · 06-21-2009, 01:56 PM

ok... let's assume the Cavs don't win it all next year.

The only thing they'll have is they can sign Lebron for more then anyone else.

So, clearly if he leaves, it's not about the money.

it's for a chance to win... and money will be a factor but not the top factor.

Boston will have a max contract to offer, a good team and good young players Rondo, Davis, Perkins, (ok, that assumes Davis is back).

I know the whole NY thing, I just can't see them having a better chance to win at that point then Boston... but anything is possible.

Did I also see Dirk is on the FA list next year? think he gets tired of being the bridesmaid and opts to go somewhere to try and win?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-21-2009, 04:27 PM

Knicks aren't gonna win a championship with or without LeBron. The whole playing no defense whats so ever and "7 seconds or less" offensive strategy isn't going to win shit. It's exciting to watch but championships aren't won that way.

I thought I read somewhere that the Clippers could offer LeBron the max - maybe not though.

Would be so sick if the Celtics got him, would have to ditch #23 tho. I don't think that'll happen - I'm guessing he stays in Cleveland

**RatedGSuperstar** · 06-21-2009, 06:29 PM

Yeah, I don't think LeBron's going anywhere. I have friends who are Knicks fans convinced that they're getting LeBron and Bosh next year, but I think they have a much better chance stealing Dwyane Wade away from Miami. Cleveland's going to offer more than anyone else and they'll still be the team best set up for a Finals run in the East.

The Bucks are pretty much doomed this offseason, which is a big part of why I'm finding myself care less and less about the franchise every day. They easily could've had the money to extend Ramon Sessions and Charlie Villanueva, but they stupidly held onto Richard Jefferson and his bloated contract because they thought they could make the playoffs last year. It's the same short-sighted bullshit we saw with Larry Harris running the team. A sane, successful GM would've shipped Jefferson to Cleveland for expiring contracts.

Instead, they're doomed. They have one year left on Jefferson's fat contract that you might as well eat to free up some long-term salary. Michael Redd is still collecting checks on a max contract he never should've gotten in the first place. They're going to lose a guy who will eventually develop into an All-Star point guard in Sessions because of it, and Villanueva isn't worth whatever he's going to get on the open market.

They could conceivably match any offer Sessions gets, but if they do, they won't have any money to sign their lottery pick. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they take some shitty European player they have no intention of bringing over for three years. That's how much of a trainwreck this franchise is now.

**Krimzon7** · 06-21-2009, 07:22 PM

DAMMIT RGS, sorry to read.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-22-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Lebron James and Steph Curry.

But you know the Knicks and there fucking draft picks.

and the NY Knicks select.....out of Iceland, Radmmira Vokalaj.

AHHH WTF

Knicks? THe jets too.

Jeff Laggerman.

**VonErichLives** · 06-22-2009, 07:19 PM

Cleveland will be able to offer the most money, but if they don't make a big move and the Cavs don't make the finals again, it wont be about the money, it will be about winning a championship.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-23-2009, 12:32 AM

Can the Cavs really offer that much more money though? I know they can offer a little more than a max contract since he currently plays for them, but he would still be getting a max deal elsewhere.

**RatedGSuperstar** · 06-23-2009, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErichLives

Cleveland will be able to offer the most money, but if they don't make a big move and the Cavs don't make the finals again, it wont be about the money, it will be about winning a championship.

At the same time, where could he go that would offer him a better chance at winning a championship that also has the cap space to sign him? Teams like the Knicks that are actively clearing space for next summer are still going to be further from an NBA title than Cleveland, even with James on their roster.

I used to think that James was a goner, but with the way the East has played out the past couple years -- Detroit fading to an also-ran, Boston's window closing, and only Orlando really standing in their way -- I think it's likely that LeBron returns to Cleveland. The only question is if he signs a huge extension or only signs on for like two or three more years in Cleveland to try to win a title there. That way he'd have a very good chance at competing for a championship while still keeping his options open for that huge contract while still in his prime.

**Krimzon7** · 06-23-2009, 01:08 AM

RGS, this is an awesome point. LeBron won't be signing any 20 year contracts.

**Krimzon7** · 06-23-2009, 09:13 AM

Did anyone hear about the Celtics/Pistons proposed trade? Rondo and Allen to Pistons for Rip, Prince, and Chauncey Stuckey. Dumars laughed uncontrollably before telling Ainge to fuck off.

RP · 06-23-2009, 11:10 AM

CAnt go bad with Chauncy Stuckey

**Brujesino** · 06-23-2009, 02:25 PM

looks like the bucks traded richard jefferson to the spurs for bruce bowen,kurt thomas and frabicio oberto

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujesino

looks like the bucks traded richard jefferson to the spurs for bruce bowen,kurt thomas and frabicio oberto

wow, making cap room for 2010.

**RatedGSuperstar** · 06-23-2009, 05:19 PM

Expected that Bowen and Oberto will be waived and return to San Antonio. This saves the Bucks enough money to be able to re-sign Sessions or Villanueva without going over the luxury tax, as well as some cap room for next year and a shit ton of cap room in 2011 when Redd and Gadzuric come off the books. Still would've preferred that the dealt Jefferson to Cleveland for Szczerbiak's expiring deal, but this isn't bad. At least now they can afford to sign a draft pick.

**Brujesino** · 06-23-2009, 05:25 PM

if the spurs can get sheed in free agency the spurs look great on paper

of course if no one offers sheed 8 mill a year he says hes gonna retire

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujesino

if the spurs can get sheed in free agency the spurs look great on paper

of course if no one offers sheed 8 mill a year he says hes gonna retire

Its the Spurs...they look good on paper always, even before this move.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 05:36 PM

I think it is a bad move though, I dont think jefferson fits in with them.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 05:36 PM

They should also instate the Alan Houston rule one more time.

**Triple Naitch** · 06-23-2009, 10:11 PM

T'Wolves are sending Mike Miller and Randy Foye to the Wizards for the #5 pick and a bunch of scrubs. Minnesota will have the #5 and #6 picks and are said to be holding on to both.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 10:36 PM

Amazing trade for Minnesota....wow.

Wiashington could roll with Arenas, Miller, Butler, Jamison.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-23-2009, 10:41 PM

Yeah I heard Washington wanted another veteran piece to add to the mix and not a rookie. T-Wolves got what 4 1st round now picks now right? Pretty funny considering they went so many years without having a 1st rounder due to a violation they had with Joe Smith or something.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-23-2009, 10:42 PM

WTF? Oberto to Detroit for Amir johnson

Also, Etan thomas, Songaila and Pecherov to minnesota in the draft pick trade.

Those scubrs make the trade not that amazing.

**Triple Naitch** · 06-23-2009, 10:46 PM

Sixers are going back to the old school 76ers logo.

kinda.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-23-2009, 10:53 PM

Wow didn't realize Randy Foye averaged 16PPG last year, that's more than Miller

**Brujesino** · 06-24-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus Shuttlesworth

Wow didn't realize Randy Foye averaged 16PPG last year, that's more than Miller

indeed

though most likely his ppg will go down with the wiz

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-24-2009, 01:31 AM

Definitely but I was assuming Miller was the "main part" of the trade at first.

**Loose Cannon** · 06-24-2009, 09:47 AM

fuck, I can see the T-Wolves taking Curry at 5 or 6. Knicks desperately want him

**Triple Naitch** · 06-24-2009, 08:58 PM

Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings would fit in better for Minnesota.

**DaveWadding** · 06-24-2009, 09:41 PM

Have I mentioned that I desperately want the Suns to take Earl Clark? cause I do.

**Hanso Amore** · 06-24-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch

Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings would fit in better for Minnesota.

Good call.

Add young PG and SG to their twin Towers, Love and Jefferson, and they have a potential solid team in 3 years.

RP · 06-24-2009, 10:35 PM

I want the Celtics to trade Rhondo for like Foster, the 13th pick and TJ ford.

Can this happen pls?

**RatedGSuperstar** · 06-25-2009, 02:10 AM

Speculation that Minnesota desperately wants Rubio and would be willing to throw their multiple first rounders away to move up and get him.

Suns agree to trade Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, the 46th overall pick, and cash.

**DaveWadding** · 06-25-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RatedGSuperstar

Suns agree to trade Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic.

Salary dumps because your owner is a retarded piece of shit...tell me how my ass taste

now I gotta get another new Suns jersey this year...fuuuuck.

**SammyG** · 06-25-2009, 05:48 AM

lol at Cleveland fans being like CHAAAMPIONSHIP on message boards and shit because of Shaq. Hell, now I kinda want cleveland in the finals next year, just so Kobe can shit on Shaq and ask him how his ass taste.

06-25-2009, 02:10 AM	#78
RatedGSuperstar Stupid Sexy Flanders Posts: 1,728	Speculation that Minnesota desperately wants Rubio and would be willing to throw their multiple first rounders away to move up and get him. Suns agree to trade Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, the 46th overall pick, and cash. Last edited by RatedGSuperstar; 06-25-2009 at 02:13 AM.

06-20-2009, 08:32 PM	#42
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	No, that's Kobe's wife, Vanessa.

06-20-2009, 08:41 PM	#43
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	who is that Purto Rican on the right playing a little pocket pool?

06-20-2009, 09:00 PM	#44
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	One year from now the Knicks will gave LeBron!!

06-20-2009, 09:03 PM	#45
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Lebron James and Steph Curry. But you know the Knicks and there fucking draft picks. and the NY Knicks select.....out of Iceland, Radmmira Vokalaj. AHHH WTF

06-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#46
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,461	lol

06-21-2009, 01:56 PM	#47
VonErichLives DU's illegitimate brother Posts: 3,685	ok... let's assume the Cavs don't win it all next year. The only thing they'll have is they can sign Lebron for more then anyone else. So, clearly if he leaves, it's not about the money. it's for a chance to win... and money will be a factor but not the top factor. Boston will have a max contract to offer, a good team and good young players Rondo, Davis, Perkins, (ok, that assumes Davis is back). I know the whole NY thing, I just can't see them having a better chance to win at that point then Boston... but anything is possible. Did I also see Dirk is on the FA list next year? think he gets tired of being the bridesmaid and opts to go somewhere to try and win?

06-21-2009, 04:27 PM	#48
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Knicks aren't gonna win a championship with or without LeBron. The whole playing no defense whats so ever and "7 seconds or less" offensive strategy isn't going to win shit. It's exciting to watch but championships aren't won that way. I thought I read somewhere that the Clippers could offer LeBron the max - maybe not though. Would be so sick if the Celtics got him, would have to ditch #23 tho. I don't think that'll happen - I'm guessing he stays in Cleveland

06-21-2009, 06:29 PM	#49
RatedGSuperstar Stupid Sexy Flanders Posts: 1,728	Yeah, I don't think LeBron's going anywhere. I have friends who are Knicks fans convinced that they're getting LeBron and Bosh next year, but I think they have a much better chance stealing Dwyane Wade away from Miami. Cleveland's going to offer more than anyone else and they'll still be the team best set up for a Finals run in the East. The Bucks are pretty much doomed this offseason, which is a big part of why I'm finding myself care less and less about the franchise every day. They easily could've had the money to extend Ramon Sessions and Charlie Villanueva, but they stupidly held onto Richard Jefferson and his bloated contract because they thought they could make the playoffs last year. It's the same short-sighted bullshit we saw with Larry Harris running the team. A sane, successful GM would've shipped Jefferson to Cleveland for expiring contracts. Instead, they're doomed. They have one year left on Jefferson's fat contract that you might as well eat to free up some long-term salary. Michael Redd is still collecting checks on a max contract he never should've gotten in the first place. They're going to lose a guy who will eventually develop into an All-Star point guard in Sessions because of it, and Villanueva isn't worth whatever he's going to get on the open market. They could conceivably match any offer Sessions gets, but if they do, they won't have any money to sign their lottery pick. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they take some shitty European player they have no intention of bringing over for three years. That's how much of a trainwreck this franchise is now.

06-21-2009, 07:22 PM	#50
Krimzon7 King of the Ring Posts: 8,848	DAMMIT RGS, sorry to read.

06-22-2009, 07:19 PM	#52
VonErichLives DU's illegitimate brother Posts: 3,685	Cleveland will be able to offer the most money, but if they don't make a big move and the Cavs don't make the finals again, it wont be about the money, it will be about winning a championship.

06-23-2009, 12:32 AM	#53
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Can the Cavs really offer that much more money though? I know they can offer a little more than a max contract since he currently plays for them, but he would still be getting a max deal elsewhere.

06-23-2009, 01:08 AM	#55
Krimzon7 King of the Ring Posts: 8,848	RGS, this is an awesome point. LeBron won't be signing any 20 year contracts.

06-23-2009, 09:13 AM	#56
Krimzon7 King of the Ring Posts: 8,848	Did anyone hear about the Celtics/Pistons proposed trade? Rondo and Allen to Pistons for Rip, Prince, and Chauncey Stuckey. Dumars laughed uncontrollably before telling Ainge to fuck off.

06-23-2009, 11:10 AM	#57
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	CAnt go bad with Chauncy Stuckey

06-23-2009, 02:25 PM	#58
Brujesino Posts: 469	looks like the bucks traded richard jefferson to the spurs for bruce bowen,kurt thomas and frabicio oberto

06-23-2009, 05:19 PM	#60
RatedGSuperstar Stupid Sexy Flanders Posts: 1,728	Expected that Bowen and Oberto will be waived and return to San Antonio. This saves the Bucks enough money to be able to re-sign Sessions or Villanueva without going over the luxury tax, as well as some cap room for next year and a shit ton of cap room in 2011 when Redd and Gadzuric come off the books. Still would've preferred that the dealt Jefferson to Cleveland for Szczerbiak's expiring deal, but this isn't bad. At least now they can afford to sign a draft pick.

06-23-2009, 05:25 PM	#61
Brujesino Posts: 469	if the spurs can get sheed in free agency the spurs look great on paper of course if no one offers sheed 8 mill a year he says hes gonna retire

06-23-2009, 05:36 PM	#63
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	I think it is a bad move though, I dont think jefferson fits in with them.

06-23-2009, 10:11 PM	#65
Triple Naitch Formerly Fausto Carmona Posts: 16,875	T'Wolves are sending Mike Miller and Randy Foye to the Wizards for the #5 pick and a bunch of scrubs. Minnesota will have the #5 and #6 picks and are said to be holding on to both.

06-23-2009, 10:36 PM	#66
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	Amazing trade for Minnesota....wow. Wiashington could roll with Arenas, Miller, Butler, Jamison.

06-23-2009, 10:41 PM	#67
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah I heard Washington wanted another veteran piece to add to the mix and not a rookie. T-Wolves got what 4 1st round now picks now right? Pretty funny considering they went so many years without having a 1st rounder due to a violation they had with Joe Smith or something.

06-23-2009, 10:42 PM	#68
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	WTF? Oberto to Detroit for Amir johnson Also, Etan thomas, Songaila and Pecherov to minnesota in the draft pick trade. Those scubrs make the trade not that amazing.

06-23-2009, 10:46 PM	#69
Triple Naitch Formerly Fausto Carmona Posts: 16,875	Sixers are going back to the old school 76ers logo. kinda.

06-23-2009, 10:53 PM	#70
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Wow didn't realize Randy Foye averaged 16PPG last year, that's more than Miller

06-24-2009, 01:31 AM	#72
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Definitely but I was assuming Miller was the "main part" of the trade at first.

06-24-2009, 09:47 AM	#73
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	fuck, I can see the T-Wolves taking Curry at 5 or 6. Knicks desperately want him

06-24-2009, 08:58 PM	#74
Triple Naitch Formerly Fausto Carmona Posts: 16,875	Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings would fit in better for Minnesota.

06-24-2009, 09:41 PM	#75
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	Have I mentioned that I desperately want the Suns to take Earl Clark? cause I do.

06-24-2009, 10:35 PM	#77
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	I want the Celtics to trade Rhondo for like Foster, the 13th pick and TJ ford. Can this happen pls?

06-25-2009, 05:48 AM	#80
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	lol at Cleveland fans being like CHAAAMPIONSHIP on message boards and shit because of Shaq. Hell, now I kinda want cleveland in the finals next year, just so Kobe can shit on Shaq and ask him how his ass taste.