Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels

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I'd like to say that this whole "bigger draw" thing is not really a worthy point. You can't say Shawn was a bigger draw or Bret was a bigger draw. Even trying to say that Shawn was a bigger draw in the US while Bret was a bigger draw abroad really doesn't mean anything.

Certainly, we can all think of a few (at the very least) guys who were never a great draw but we consider epic wrestlers.

Additionally, we can all think of guys who were fantabulous draws (Hogan) who aren't on Bret or Shawn's level.

Finally, there's really no sure way to prove who could draw what. Bret was fortunate enough to be on the tail end of Hogan's run in WWE whereas Shawn was unfortunate enough to be headlining when the nWo was born and WWE was devoid of talent.

Was it that Shawn couldn't draw or was it that he was facing Vader, the Bulldog, Mankind and Sid? Was Bret a bigger international draw or was he fortunate enough to be Canadian and have a British brother-in-law? Also let's not forget that he constantly professes his love for every country that isn't the United States.

There's a lot of reasons for a person drawing. John Cena gets booed out of the building and still draws. I am of the opinion that it has very little to actually do with being a "better wrestler."

[Zen v.W.o.]

Originally Posted by midLfinger I'd like to say that this whole "bigger draw" thing is not really a worthy point. You can't say Shawn was a bigger draw or Bret was a bigger draw. Even trying to say that Shawn was a bigger draw in the US while Bret was a bigger draw abroad really doesn't mean anything. Certainly, we can all think of a few (at the very least) guys who were never a great draw but we consider epic wrestlers. Additionally, we can all think of guys who were fantabulous draws (Hogan) who aren't on Bret or Shawn's level. Finally, there's really no sure way to prove who could draw what. Bret was fortunate enough to be on the tail end of Hogan's run in WWE whereas Shawn was unfortunate enough to be headlining when the nWo was born and WWE was devoid of talent. Was it that Shawn couldn't draw or was it that he was facing Vader, the Bulldog, Mankind and Sid? Was Bret a bigger international draw or was he fortunate enough to be Canadian and have a British brother-in-law? Also let's not forget that he constantly professes his love for every country that isn't the United States. There's a lot of reasons for a person drawing. John Cena gets booed out of the building and still draws. I am of the opinion that it has very little to actually do with being a "better wrestler."

Those opponents Shawn faced that you listed were all pretty fucking talented. Well, except Sid. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. Those opponents Shawn faced that you listed were all pretty fucking talented. Well, except Sid. Just saying.

And Shawn had fantastic matches with all of them. Well, except Sid (but even that one was way above average).

My point was that Shawn was facing guys who were, at the time, mid-carders or nobodies. Mankind, to most, was the weirdo who fought Undertaker a lot. Vader was diminishing in skill. Sid was Sid. Bulldog never was a World Heavyweight Champion. Good wrestlers? I agree 100%. Good draws? Not a single one.