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Old 04-12-2004, 07:08 PM   #1
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I think what CoE means is that a so called boyband like Westlife arent really a band because they do not play their own music. A band should be defined as a set of people who play their own music. Therefore, they are classed as a boy group. Blink 182 would be classed as a boyband using those definitions. D-12 are not a band.
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:11 PM   #2
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Eminem makes the beats aka the band makes there own music..

Right??
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:17 PM   #3
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What I meant was to be a singer, you have to actually sing.

To be in a band, you have to actually play instruments.

D12 have no singers and aren't a band. "Boy bands" are singers, but not a band.

Ya heard?
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:20 PM   #4
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Eminem makes the beats aka the band makes there own music..

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A computer that makes beats is not an instrument.

An instrument something that makes music that is used on stage. Turntables don't count, as they play prerecorded music.
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:37 AM   #5
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A computer that makes beats is not an instrument.



An instrument something that makes music that is used on stage. Turntables don't count, as they play prerecorded music.

Sampling isn't really making music. It's editing, not creation.

Production at best.

Of course, some people wax philosphy about the art of using someone else's music. To me, it still feels like plagarism...Even when someone else's name on it.
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Old 04-13-2004, 04:27 AM   #6
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Sampling isn't really making music. It's editing, not creation.

Production at best.

Of course, some people wax philosphy about the art of using someone else's music. To me, it still feels like plagarism...Even when someone else's name on it.
All true. But in regards to my previous post, turntabling with samples is in fact, onstage production/editting. While the turntablist himself is not responsible for producing the individual sounds played, he does have control over how it is played.

In direct definition of the word 'instrument', yes, a computer and its audio software IS an instrument. An instrument for live music? No. An instrument made to produce music? Yeah. I mean, if we are going to get technical, I could say a synthetic keyboard is not an instrument because the noises it makes are not natural. They are artificially produced... and previously sampled.
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Old 04-13-2004, 04:21 AM   #7
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A computer that makes beats is not an instrument.

An instrument something that makes music that is used on stage. Turntables don't count, as they play prerecorded music.
That is BS. Sampled, looped, or whatever - it's still an instrument. A onstage sampler that plays previously recorded beats is still an instrument. And turntables ARE an instrument. I don't think you understand how difficult it is to turntable well.
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:59 AM   #8
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An instrument something that makes music that is used on stage. Turntables don't count, as they play prerecorded music.
Jugaling, in turntablism, is making music..

Don't argue what is subjective...
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:03 AM   #9
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p.s.how is using a beat machine any differnt from using an electronic keyboard??

Are you saying the keytar isn't an instrument?!?!?!

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Eminem makes the beats aka the band makes there own music..

Right??
Like Sing for the Moment and Stan?
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