UFC 100 Discussion, thoughts, spoilers

[Rob]

Okay now I can't get on that board. I'll C&P it the second I can.

[Nark Order]

According to Yahoo, both Brock and Dan Henderson got a "stern talking to". Yeah, OK. Frank Mir talks 8 months worth the jive on Brock and that's alright. Brock does it after the fight and he's the biggest asshole in UFC history. To his face no less, and not behind his back.

Also, the Hendo thing is even more fucking ridiculous. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. White should be reprimanding the referee for not being in the right place and not Hendo who was following the rules that were laid out for him.

[Nark Order]

And I guarentee the only thing Dana was mad at was the Bud/Coors light debacle. Everything he I think he just feels he has to cooment on because he's getting pressure.

[McLegend]

Yeah, but Henderson said he knew he was out, and he still went at him like that.

No way anyone in the UFC liked that.

[Nark Order]

Listen, I'll say it again. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. It's that black and white. Maybe Mario Yamasaki won't be so far away next time.

[Rob]

If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler.

Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Nark Order]

Bisping fan much?

[McLegend]

Originally Posted by Narcissus Listen, I'll say it again. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. It's that black and white. Maybe Mario Yamasaki won't be so far away next time.

Mario Yamasaki actually moved pretty fast if you see the replay.

[CSL]

If Bisping did it to Henderson, America might have declared World War III by now

[Loose Cannon]

OMG, just wacthed the Brock fight and I just became the biggest Lesnar fan.

Middle fingers right to the crowd

edit, dam reading this thread now and it looks like he gave a great speech at the end, but my download cut it off.

Seriously though, it was a slow fight, but that's Brock's game. Most people, including me, love the stand up fast paced swing fest, but this was a methological attack by Brock. Mir can go fuck himself now

[Nark Order]

Well, maybe the rules need to be changed then. It was within the rules and tons of fighters would've done the same thing.

Remember when Matt Brown showed mercy against Pete Sell? Brown knew Sell was out and told the ref to stop the fight but the ref told him to keep hitting the guy. You never know. You go until you're told to stop.

[Loose Cannon]

I haven't seen anything else yet

[Loose Cannon]

lol, reading this thread. glad you'll liked the Brock antics as well.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Rob If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler. Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Heat of the moment, and you can fight til the ref stops you. At least he didn't pussyfoot around it in the interview, he was straight up.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Narcissus Bisping fan much?

Yeah of course. I mean, I would think it would have been fine if was someone else obviously. Fucking idiot.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon OMG, just wacthed the Brock fight and I just became the biggest Lesnar fan. Middle fingers right to the crowd edit, dam reading this thread now and it looks like he gave a great speech at the end, but my download cut it off. Seriously though, it was a slow fight, but that's Brock's game. Most people, including me, love the stand up fast paced swing fest, but this was a methological attack by Brock. Mir can go fuck himself now

He's so strong and monstrous that every punch he lands means something. The slow/ploddingness is entertaining because of the damage he does.

[Nark Order]

Rob. Bisping had no business even fighitng Hendo. Bisping talked a bunch of ridiculousness and Hendo kept quiet. In the fight Hendo wanted to shut him up and he did. It's that simple. If the ref didn't want the extra hit then he should've stopped it before it happened. It's really that simple. I don't know what you're going on about here. The ref is to blame for being out of position. You are allowed to fight until the ref steps in.

[Reavant]

Originally Posted by McLegend Yeah, but Henderson said he knew he was out, and he still went at him like that. No way anyone in the UFC liked that.

Originally Posted by Rob If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler. Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Im assuming you guys are all going off of what henderson said right after he won with joe rogan... which he said that last one was to shut him up a little...

I on the other hand listened to what was said in the interviews where he said it was a reaction to follow him to the ground and blast him and while he was dropping he knew he was out, but once your flying in the air with a fist to the face, you cant stop yourself. But hes honest and he said that it still felt good, because he had to listen to the real cunt talk shit for however many months.

Also Henderson never once hit bisbing once the ref pushed him off. I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.

[Nark Order]

Originally Posted by Reavant I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices the double standard here.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But guys... I mean really... pommies being whingers? Any surprise?

JOKING

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[Nark Order]

Now all we need is some Rashad-esque knock out photo edits to really throw the shame on. I'm sure those wouldn't be quite as well recieved on here though as the Rashad ones were. It's not funny if it's Bisping.

[Volare]

Falcon Punch!

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[Fox]

Originally Posted by Rob They aren't promoting it or using it to sell a DVD so Metallica can't do fuck all.

Wrong. They have to get permission for every song they use. It's called copyright and usage law, and if they are using music created by someone else for an event that is garnering them money (especially one on PPV), then they are legally obligated to get permission.

[Volare]

I bet they saw the size of Lesnar, and Dana threatened to sick him on the band so they said "sure."

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Narcissus Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices the double standard here.

There isn't a double standard. Some guys are in a zone and whilst it's still wrong, I can understand that.

I can't understand anyone smashing someone they know it KO'd. BJ Penn told the ref Sean Sherk was finished when they fought. Matt Brown had to beg a ref to stop his fight with Pete Sell. Most guys aren't fucking idiots.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Fox Wrong. They have to get permission for every song they use. It's called copyright and usage law, and if they are using music created by someone else for an event that is garnering them money (especially one on PPV), then they are legally obligated to get permission.

The music isn't helping them make money. They already made the money before the song played.

[Nark Order]

You fight until you are stopped. I just don't understand what you aren't getting here. If it's anybody's fault it's the refs for being out of position.

[McLegend]

Originally Posted by Reavant Im assuming you guys are all going off of what henderson said right after he won with joe rogan... which he said that last one was to shut him up a little... I on the other hand listened to what was said in the interviews where he said it was a reaction to follow him to the ground and blast him and while he was dropping he knew he was out, but once your flying in the air with a fist to the face, you cant stop yourself. But hes honest and he said that it still felt good, because he had to listen to the real cunt talk shit for however many months. Also Henderson never once hit bisbing once the ref pushed him off. I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.

No I don't think he should have hit him after wards, because he was def out. However that doesn't get me mad, because I understand the rules of MMA.

It's the fact that he admitted it that he did it for "revenge." Don't say that. UFC has every right to say something to Henderson, because they don't want to give people in the media any more firepower that think MMA fighters are out for blood.

Now I do love Bisping, but me liking him as nothing to do with this. I love Rampage, but I thought he shouldn't hit Silva 3 times after he was knocked out. Also the shot Rashad laid on Chuck when he was out was also pretty vicious.

[Nark Order]

But whether he did it for revenge or not, what he did was within the rules of competition. Nobody seems to be addressing this.

[McLegend]

I said it was acceptable in terms of the rules.

Next time just say I was following the rules. Instead of what he said, and maybe UFC doesn't say anything. They still might though, because it was pretty brutal.

[Reavant]

He never once said he saw him out and went to land an extra shot. You all are hearing what you want to hear. When asked about it he said that last one was to shut him up and when he went on to explain it he said he was following him to the ground like you should in a fight, and whiloe airborne he realized he was out, but its a little too late at that point. Plus the second the ref touched him he was off.

Maybe he should have been a little appologetic, but at the same time bisbing is a doochebag and if I had to fight a guy like that and the fight went down the same way, I probably wouldnt show much remorse either.

The difference between him and rampage was the ref was grabbing rampage when he was hitting silva, but you guys like rampage so no problem.

And did you watch the rashad/Liddell fight? he never hit him after he knocked him out... i stood over him to look and then the ref pushed him away.

[Nark Order]

I don't even know why Bisping fans are angry, tbh. At least now he can go back to winning fights now that he's going to be fed a bunch of cans again.

[McLegend]

Originally Posted by Reavant He never once said he saw him out and went to land an extra shot. You all are hearing what you want to hear. When asked about it he said that last one was to shut him up and when he went on to explain it he said he was following him to the ground like you should in a fight, and whiloe airborne he realized he was out, but its a little too late at that point. Plus the second the ref touched him he was off. Maybe he should have been a little appologetic, but at the same time bisbing is a doochebag and if I had to fight a guy like that and the fight went down the same way, I probably wouldnt show much remorse either. The difference between him and rampage was the ref was grabbing rampage when he was hitting silva, but you guys like rampage so no problem. And did you watch the rashad/Liddell fight? he never hit him after he knocked him out... i stood over him to look and then the ref pushed him away.

I believe you about the Rashad/Liddell fight. I def can be wrong about that.

There was one Rashad fight where he kicked someone in the head and the guy was out cold, and he hit him 3 times when he was down. It did look like it was a heat of the moment thing to. I thought that was brutal. Also Rashad did look worried after the fight when the guy stayed down for like 5-0 mintues.

Still though don't though if your Henderson don't say it. Most people outside of MMA don't care if Bisping is douchebag. They are just going to look at what happened and what he said and pick it apart.

[Rob]

Reavant you are wrong. He admitted it on the show and at the press conference (after saying it was a joke, he repeated the first part again).

[Vastardikai]

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Rob There isn't a double standard. Some guys are in a zone and whilst it's still wrong, I can understand that. I can't understand anyone smashing someone they know it KO'd. BJ Penn told the ref Sean Sherk was finished when they fought. Matt Brown had to beg a ref to stop his fight with Pete Sell. Most guys aren't fucking idiots.

Hendo was clearly still in the zone. He may have known he was k.o.ed but it was pretty clear he was still amped up. It's natural to follow up a knockdown punch with a follow up.

I actually like Bisping... I mean I was going for Hendo, but I like Mike. He got pwnd though, and the last punch was only an exclamation point. Hendo's only mistake was in the interview saying what he said... but I mean fuckit, he was pumped up, he just shutup the loudmouth for the time being.

[Reavant]

Originally Posted by Rob Reavant you are wrong. He admitted it on the show and at the press conference (after saying it was a joke, he repeated the first part again).

No Im not. He repeated that it felt good doing it and hasnt backed off that, but he never said he did it to hit an out opponent, he SAID in the press conference and the an interview in the locker room that he followed him down as a reaction... look at the speed from which he hit him to when he jumped on him, not much analyzing time there.

[Nark Order]

lol, Bisping. Must suck fighting fighters who aren't horrible.