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Old 07-13-2009, 11:51 PM   #281
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Don't fucking care..

You fight until the ref stops you.. Ref's fault, not Hendo's..

I know you are a Bisping mark, and rightfully so, but you are knowledgeable enough about MMA to know anything can happen.. It was a legal shot so stop being a bitch about it..
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:00 AM   #282
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As someone trains MMA I wouldn't be mad at the guy who through that shot on me. You're told to go until the ref stops you, period. No one is mad with Wandy when he knocks out Jardine and holds him by the throat and continues to pop him.

Guys get flashed all the time, you have no idea how quickly someone is going to recover. You throw until the match is over, that's what the instructions are, and if you don't you're going to lose a fight. Even if Bisping through that shot I wouldn't have had an issue with it, and I hate that motherfucker.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:01 AM   #283
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Rashad Evans did the same thing after he laid out Chuck Liddell. The only difference was the referee got there in time to prevent a second devastating punch. Quintin did the same to Wandy also.

Regardless of what his comments were, Dan Henderson did his job and did as he was told to do.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:50 AM   #285
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Don't fucking care..

You fight until the ref stops you.. Ref's fault, not Hendo's..

I know you are a Bisping mark, and rightfully so, but you are knowledgeable enough about MMA to know anything can happen.. It was a legal shot so stop being a bitch about it..
Are you stupid too?

What the fuck does it have to do with it being Michael Bisping? Just because it was him on the receiving end of it that means I wouldn't pipe up and say the same thing for anyone else? Bullshit. Total fucking bullshit.

Yeah it was a legal shot. I don't recall saying it wasn't. Feel free to correct me where I may have said it wasn't. You might be a while looking though.

If you think it's okay to pound the fuck out of someone you know is out cold then that's your business. I would like to see MMA going serious injury/death free for a while though. If Henderson legit was running on energy and didn't know he was out then okay, not a problem. If Henderson knew what he did and didn't admit it, not a problem because we wouldn't be discussing this now. Bottom line is he knew what he said and he admitted it. Anyone here and anywhere else can make all the excuses in the world for him doing it (and my lord are you!). Obviously the UFC were pissed at him for no reason then right? What harm would it have done if Henderson took one step back and waited for the ref to move? Other fighters have done this before.

Again, I don't have a problem with any fighter following up in the heat of the moment. I have the problem with wankers who admit they hit people who they know are out cold.

It's like speaking to a bunch of fucking Sherdog posters here. Fuck sake.

I'll give Henderson some credit though. He has made me want to see another Anderson Silva fight now. Obviously he'd have no problem with anyone else knocking fuck out of his limp body either.
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #286
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Are you stupid too?

What the fuck does it have to do with it being Michael Bisping? Just because it was him on the receiving end of it that means I wouldn't pipe up and say the same thing for anyone else? Bullshit. Total fucking bullshit.

Yeah it was a legal shot. I don't recall saying it wasn't. Feel free to correct me where I may have said it wasn't. You might be a while looking though.

If you think it's okay to pound the fuck out of someone you know is out cold then that's your business. I would like to see MMA going serious injury/death free for a while though. If Henderson legit was running on energy and didn't know he was out then okay, not a problem. If Henderson knew what he did and didn't admit it, not a problem because we wouldn't be discussing this now. Bottom line is he knew what he said and he admitted it. Anyone here and anywhere else can make all the excuses in the world for him doing it (and my lord are you!). Obviously the UFC were pissed at him for no reason then right? What harm would it have done if Henderson took one step back and waited for the ref to move? Other fighters have done this before.

Again, I don't have a problem with any fighter following up in the heat of the moment. I have the problem with wankers who admit they hit people who they know are out cold.

It's like speaking to a bunch of fucking Sherdog posters here. Fuck sake.

I'll give Henderson some credit though. He has made me want to see another Anderson Silva fight now. Obviously he'd have no problem with anyone else knocking fuck out of his limp body either.

I do understand where you're coming from. However, were you saying this after Rampage fuckbombed Wanderlai after he knocked him out cold?
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:07 PM   #287
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:29 PM   #288
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:04 PM   #289
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:54 PM   #290
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I will repeat that maybe technically Rob is right because of what Hendo said after the fight. However, him saying he doesn't only care because it was bisping is probably a load of crap lol. I did not hear him crying the same foul when Rampage killed Wanderlei.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:32 PM   #291
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I'll say right now Rampage was in the wrong. There is no excuse for hitting anyone once the ref steps in. BJ Penn was also wrong in the Jens Pulver rematch.

As for the Bisping thing, what's the excuse for everyone else in the world who are saying the same as me and aren't Bisping marks?
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I've got to admit again that I've lost any respect that I had for Henderson and I agree with Rob that because he came out an admitted it that it made the situation worse.
The UFC is trying to come across all the time as a legit organisation and they don't need one of their top fighters admitting that they hit a guy that they knew was knocked out.
Especially at one of it's biggest events of all time.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:02 PM   #293
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I thought it was stupid when he came out and said it to be honest... everyone in the room was like "No Hendo shutup!" but to say you "lost all respect for him" is pretty dumb. It was a stupid thing to say, but shit, it was heat of the moment. These guys are fighters, things get nasty. In no way was Hendo right to say what he said after the fight, but a) fight til the ref stops you and b) shit happens. It's not like Hendo was fighting dirty or cheated or anything, his emotions just got the better of him in a very emotionally charged fight. He didn't do anything illegal... he did something questionable, but are you going to tell me you lost ALL respect for Wanderlei and BJ?
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I'll say right now Rampage was in the wrong. There is no excuse for hitting anyone once the ref steps in. BJ Penn was also wrong in the Jens Pulver rematch.
You say it now... but when it happened where were you , I could be wrong but you are a 'page fan are you not? I'm just sayin... people react differently when it's their fighter getting hammered. I agree that what Hendo did was dumb, I just think you're over reacting.

But Robert, you know I love you still we should never argue
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I'm saying I lost respect for him saying what he said, did Wanderlei and BJ say the same thing?
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I'm saying I lost respect for him saying what he said, did Wanderlei and BJ say the same thing?
lol saying what he said? So he was honest... and you lost respect for him. Rampage beat the shit out of Wanderlei after he was unconscious and no1 asked him shit about it because they all knew about the bad blood, so he didn't have anything to say. Same goes for BJ, theyknew he did not like Jens, so they knew he held the choke on for longer.

Rogan happened to ask Hendo, and Hendo being the straight shooter (and somewhat of a dumbass) that he is, gave an honest answer.

So what you're telling me, is if they asked Rampage why he hit Wanderlei over and over after he got knocked the fuck out and he said "Nah son whatchoo talkin about, I didn't touch him" you'd have lost no respect for him? Give me a fucking break.
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Yeah if Rampage came out and said the same thing that Henderson said then yeah I would, same with any other fighter. That's just how I am, you have your views and I have my views.
I think it's pretty fucking disgusting to hit a guy that you know is out, whoever does it and at the same time it does nothing for the reputation of MMA.
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Yeah if Rampage came out and said the same thing that Henderson said then yeah I would, same with any other fighter. That's just how I am, you have your views and I have my views.
I think it's pretty fucking disgusting to hit a guy that you know is out, whoever does it and at the same time it does nothing for the reputation of MMA.
But you damned well know Rampage was thinking and would have said something similar to what Hendo said if asked the question.
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Well if Rampage came out and admitted it then I'd think he was a dick too, as I said, whoever did it.
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Oh but lying about it is okay?
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He went in and knocked Bisping out cold and did not stop until the ref stepped in. Rules are you fight until the ref stops the fight. Ref did not jump in quick enough and Henderson kept on fighting because of that fact. If anything, you should lose respect for the referee that was not quick enough to step in and protect the injured fighter.

There have been a handful of guys that bounce back after being knocked unconcious for a few moments and if Bisping would have done so, then everyone here would have been all over Henderson for not capitalizing on the oppertunity he had to finish the fight.
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And how are we supposed to know that they are lying, I'm not saying that.
I said I think that anyone would be a dick for hitting a person that they knew was out.
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As I said before I have my view, I'm not going to change my view whatever is said. It's how I personally feel, now I respect that you have your view as well.
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As I said before I have my view, I'm not going to change my view whatever is said. It's how I personally feel, now I respect that you have your view as well.
Yeah but your view is skewed, and that is my view. You just said you think someone's a dick for hitting someone when they know they're out. Rampage hit Wanderlei ridiculously hard when he was out cold and the ref was pulling him off, are you equally as emotionally charged about it asyou are about Henderson? I'm just saying... with you and Rob it's pretty clear bias is coming into play.
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Jesus christ, have you lot read anything that me and Rob have said. I have continuously said that I think anyone who hits a guy on the floor when they know they are out is a dick.
Maybe we are more emotionally charged because it only happened the other night and because we have to keep on answering the same question.
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lol it's just pretty funny. I'm sorry man
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I know when a fighter’s out. I knew he was out when I first hit him. That second punch one was just to shut him up a bit.
actually rob you misquoted him...

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I know when a fighter’s out. I knew he was out when I first hit him. I THINK that was just to shut him up a little bit
he says " I THINK" which to me follows up with his "heat of the moment" comments later on. he wasnt sure why he did it he was just in the moment and made a joke about it. he never admitted he did it on purpose or it was somehow premeditated
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It was still stupid to say that... it gives people the wrong idea. I mean when it comes down to semantics the chances are it's a foolish thing to say. The main reason I question what he said isjust because of the vultures who are against mma would jump all over something like that to discredit the sport. However, I do believe he was in the heat of the moment and shit happens, and whining about it is kind of dumb. It's fighting, it's not baseball.
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It was still stupid to say that... it gives people the wrong idea. I mean when it comes down to semantics the chances are it's a foolish thing to say. The main reason I question what he said isjust because of the vultures who are against mma would jump all over something like that to discredit the sport. However, I do believe he was in the heat of the moment and shit happens, and whining about it is kind of dumb. It's fighting, it's not baseball.
i agree...and let them jump all over his comments and the sport. but the fact is that it was still replayed all over espn and made the "top 10 plays of the day"...let them haters hate
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You say it now... but when it happened where were you , I could be wrong but you are a 'page fan are you not? I'm just sayin... people react differently when it's their fighter getting hammered. I agree that what Hendo did was dumb, I just think you're over reacting.

But Robert, you know I love you still we should never argue
I was a huge Henderson fan too but let's ignore that part because it only gets in the way.

If Tito Ortiz, Diego Sanchez, Brock Lesnar, Tim Sylvia or any other "hated" MMA fighter did what Henderson did, would the reaction be the same? No.
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actually rob you misquoted him...



he says " I THINK" which to me follows up with his "heat of the moment" comments later on. he wasnt sure why he did it he was just in the moment and made a joke about it. he never admitted he did it on purpose or it was somehow premeditated
What do you mean he never admitted he did it on purpose? He said he knew he was out after the first punch? Fuck me! Can it be any more clearer than that? And he never accidently threw a punch did he?

I seriously can't discuss this anymore. People have already made up their minds and some have chosen to point blank refuse to accept facts when making their own opinion. I can't deal with these people.
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I was a huge Henderson fan too but let's ignore that part because it only gets in the way.

If Tito Ortiz, Diego Sanchez, Brock Lesnar, Tim Sylvia or any other "hated" MMA fighter did what Henderson did, would the reaction be the same? No.
Tito's not hated...he's just mis-understood
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I was a huge Henderson fan too but let's ignore that part because it only gets in the way.

If Tito Ortiz, Diego Sanchez, Brock Lesnar, Tim Sylvia or any other "hated" MMA fighter did what Henderson did, would the reaction be the same? No.
Everyone like(d) Hendo though, I just figure you're a bigger Bisping mark.
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Im much more of a Brock fan now than when he was in the WWE. I had no problem with his post match antics, etc. (except the Coors Light comment).

It creates great buzz not only for the match that just happened but also for future events. We all need a dominant figure to love or hate, and Brock is providing that right now.

There havent been many other guys that I have personally cared much about.
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So anyway my coach john Kading is friends with all of Brock's trainers and in fact back in the day when Brock was in college and John was wrestling for the worlds in freestyle, he got to wrestle with Lesnar.

John told me that he talked to Brocks trainers after the ppv and that the reason he freaked at the end of the match is because brock is a really sensitive guy and he was legitimatly pissed at Mir. I know that sounds like a fucking joke but Im completely serious.
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perhaps brock is a big teddy bear in his personal life
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