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Old 07-17-2009, 09:08 AM   #1
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Your wishing for better, more compelling angles, not realism. Which is what most fans complain about.
People acting more realisticaly to situations. I figured it was realism


And this is a wrestling topic, because I want WWE to take notes from UFC on how to run a superior product. MMA is so much like wrestling it is ridiculous.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:39 AM   #2
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People acting more realisticaly to situations. I figured it was realism


And this is a wrestling topic, because I want WWE to take notes from UFC on how to run a superior product. MMA is so much like wrestling it is ridiculous.
It's like you're telling 7up to take marketing advice from Jack Daniels, while you have no legitimate experience marketing beverages. While they do have some similarities, it's still apples and oranges.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:23 PM   #3
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It's like you're telling 7up to take marketing advice from Jack Daniels, while you have no legitimate experience marketing beverages. While they do have some similarities, it's still apples and oranges.
No matter how real the ufc, they are still marketing characters, just like the wwe does. To not see that is completely blind.

I would compare it to Labatt taking advice from Jack Daniels. Beer and hard liquor, they aren't exactly the same but they have many, many similarities. Namely, they both get you wasted.

Also, since you're completely out to lunch I guess I should let you know, MMA's deepest roots are from pro wrestling. Listen to the Bill Simmons podcast with Dave Meltzer. Though I guess you know more than him as well.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:44 PM   #4
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It's like you're telling 7up to take marketing advice from Jack Daniels, while you have no legitimate experience marketing beverages. While they do have some similarities, it's still apples and oranges.
It's more like if he was telling Coke to take advice from Royal Crown after RC managed to overtake them in almost all respects.

Pro Wrestling and UFC, like it or not, largely have the same audience. WWE still trumpets their appeal in the adult male category, because that's their core audience, even if it's no longer their target audience. I know this whole thing asks you to go beyond your childish sense of "self-entitlement=reality," but try for a moment.

The platforms, while "different" in your own estimation, can benefit greatly from one another, or in this case, one can benefit greatly from the success of the other. Just because one is an actual sport, and the other is for guys who aren't ready to come out of the closet does not mean that lessons learned from one cannot be applied to the other. This has already been covered in this thread, to which the only rebuttals you seem to be able to offer break down into "that's different, damn it!" Which really isn't true. Not in any meaningful sense.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:42 PM   #5
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WWE still trumpets their appeal in the adult male category, because that's their core audience, even if it's no longer their target audience.
UFC 100 sold over 1.5 million beating out the three of the WWE biggest PPV's of this past year combined..


* WrestleMania – 970,000
* Backlash – 185,000
* Judgment Day – 235,000

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