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Old 08-03-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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You are insane. First of all, Fedor doesnt want to "grow his brand of M-1," he is signed to M-1 as a promotion oh and his manager owns it. He has no choice. And growing a brand is a joke because M-1 doesnt put on shows anymore.

Strikeforce has not yet gone head to head with UFC and for good reason. Dont think it will change just because they have him.

legacys are looked at when the fighters are done and if Fedor doesnt sign with the UFC then lesnar might just put up a better list of fights when its all said and done.

Fedor now has to chose from:
Ovareem
Rogers
Werdum
maybe possible rematches with arlovski and sylvia

Lesnar has
Nogiera
cro cop
dos santos
valasquez
carwin
kongo
and possiblr rematches with mir and couture


and looking at fedors legacy you included lindland, arona, and babalu. 185, 205, 205 respectively. Not to mention all those fights were tough for him and as a heavyweight they shouldnt be. Mark Hunt has a losing record in MMA. Fujita's only noteable wins come from gilbert yvel and ken shamrock.

And lets not forget that there are guys littered in Fedor's record that you have never heard of and were fed to him in japan... lesnar started fighting the top guys and has not fought anyone that was able to be conceived as less than him. Lesnar will not have one can on his resume except for the first one.

Im not hating on fedor or cradling lesnars nuts but get ur facts strait.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:30 PM   #2
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Fedor now has to chose from:
Ovareem
Rogers
Werdum
maybe possible rematches with arlovski and sylvia

Lesnar has
Nogiera
cro cop
dos santos
valasquez
carwin
kongo
and possiblr rematches with mir and couture
Lets just say that both Fedor and Brock run the table on both lists you just named... Fedor would still have the more impressive legacy considering all he's done since 2001.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:40 PM   #3
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Im not hating on fedor or cradling lesnars nuts but get ur facts strait.
My facts are straight. Show me once where they are twisted.

We just disagree. It's not a matter of either of us being wrong. We both agree that Fedor is currently the number 1 heavyweight in the world. We both agree that in short order Lesnar probably will be.

All we disagree with is who will have the better legacy. Let's eliminate his wins over Lindland, Sobral, Arona, Hunt and Fujita... Just for the sake of argument. (even though I think all those wins are legit victories to his legacy) It still means that Fedor has eight victories against top flight compitition over his career.

And that's just wins that you and I agree on. If you count the other victories I mentioned Fedor has 13 wins against top flight compoitition I'd be shocked if Lesnar even had a 13 fight career let alone 13 wins... Let alone 13 wins against top flight compitition.

Lesnar right now has a win against Mir at his very best. Couture possible past his prime (we'll see at 102 like I said). And Herring obviously past his prime. It's not even close.

And even if Brock ran the table against all the guys you mentioned and Fedor never fought again... He'd only have 10 wins over top flight compitition... but even that is a very big if.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:45 PM   #4
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My facts are straight. Show me once where they are twisted.

We just disagree. It's not a matter of either of us being wrong. We both agree that Fedor is currently the number 1 heavyweight in the world. We both agree that in short order Lesnar probably will be.

All we disagree with is who will have the better legacy. Let's eliminate his wins over Lindland, Sobral, Arona, Hunt and Fujita... Just for the sake of argument. (even though I think all those wins are legit victories to his legacy) It still means that Fedor has eight victories against top flight compitition over his career.

And that's just wins that you and I agree on. If you count the other victories I mentioned Fedor has 13 wins against top flight compoitition I'd be shocked if Lesnar even had a 13 fight career let alone 13 wins... Let alone 13 wins against top flight compitition.

Lesnar right now has a win against Mir at his very best. Couture possible past his prime (we'll see at 102 like I said). And Herring obviously past his prime. It's not even close.

And even if Brock ran the table against all the guys you mentioned and Fedor never fought again... He'd only have 10 wins over top flight compitition... but even that is a very big if.
the facts strait comment had more to do with fedor growing his brand and strikeforce trying to compete directly with ufc
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You are insane. First of all, Fedor doesnt want to "grow his brand of M-1," he is signed to M-1 as a promotion oh and his manager owns it. He has no choice. And growing a brand is a joke because M-1 doesnt put on shows anymore.
M-1 has two cards in August on the 15th and 28th...

M-1 has had 15 cards this year.
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M-1 has two cards in August on the 15th and 28th...

M-1 has had 15 cards this year.
the last card i can find from them is the one on feb 21
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M-1 has two cards in August on the 15th and 28th...

M-1 has had 15 cards this year.
Are you counting the INDIVIDUAL M1 challenges or something. No way they've ran anything even CLOSE to that many show.
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