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Old 08-03-2009, 09:41 PM   #41
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Also, I'm thinking Strikeforce will be out of business by the end of 2010 mostly as result of this deal and M1's "co-promotion". Just throwing that out there with no real base or merit. Just my gut feeling.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:04 PM   #42
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I fail at reading big time. I was expecting to see a clip of Fedor singing with some Power Metal band.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:10 PM   #43
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I think strikeforce will be ok because they dont spend too much money and they dont try and take ufc head on, but who knows now
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Yeah, but they also aren't used to sharing their profits on shows where they're already paying one fighter an ungodly amount of money.
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u mean fedor? they didnt say what they were paying him... he got paid shit compaired to the other fighters while in affliction, but M1 i think shelled it out to him.
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Lost in all this I get to see Fedor fight for free. Which is nice.

Not as nice as seeing him face Brock or Couture, but free is always nice.
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Fedor isn't afraid of Brock Lesnar or anyone in the UFC. He's just a buisnessman and he wants to grow the brand of M-1 which he has stake in.
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He threw away a shit load of money by refusing to go to the UFC. He isn't going to make close to the same money in Strikeforce. Doesn't sound like smart business to me.
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his promoter is going to make way better money copromoting the show and he will get paid very well by them, probably more than what ufc would give him.
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He threw away a shit load of money by refusing to go to the UFC. He isn't going to make close to the same money in Strikeforce. Doesn't sound like smart business to me.
M-1 becoming world renown will wind up netting Fedor more money if it can become renown, since Fedor owns a piece of M-1.

But besides all of that, do you think Fedor is really afraid of Brock?
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Fedor fears Lesnar.
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I dont think fedor owns anything of M1... hes one of their athletes much like lesnar is one of UFC's. Fedor's managers own it tho
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M-1 becoming world renown will wind up netting Fedor more money if it can become renown, since Fedor owns a piece of M-1.

But besides all of that, do you think Fedor is really afraid of Brock?
No. I think his managers are afraid of him losing and them not making any money. Fedor would make huge money in the UFC even if he lost 2 out of 5 fights. He got offered a deal NOBODY has been close to before.

All the challengers are in the UFC. Aside from Overeem (who will be in the UFC the second his Strikeforce deal is over), nobody can come close. He just fucked his own legacy by not signing with them.

As far as I'm concerned, one current form, Georges St. Pierre is the pound for pound best fighter on the planet right now. Not not having great opponents only hurts his legacy.
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I dont think his managers are affraid of fedor losing, I think they are greedy and possibly corrupt.
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I dont think his managers are afraid of fedor losing, I think they are greedy and corrupt.
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In Abu Dhabi on business Monday -- possibly including a licensing deal for a line of Ultimate camels -- UFC president Dana White was reachable long enough to deliver quotes to nibbling media. And you can probably guess they weren't about the beaches.
"Fedor is a f---ing joke," he told Sherdog.com, among other outlets. "He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"
And later, to Yahoo! Sports' Steve Cofield: "I feel sorry for the real fans! I wanted to make the deal but it takes two and it is very obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best and doesn't give a [expletive] about the fans."
White was reacting to news that lusted-after heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko has inked a three-fight deal with Strikeforce only days after he and M-1 suits rejected an alleged multimillion-dollar offer from the UFC.
White is not one to sleep on something before offering comment, and it's likely his irritation eventually will settle into a more low-key trashing during news conferences. What will prove interesting is whether fans who take White's word as MMA law will begin to see Emelianenko in a negative light as a result of the verbal artillery that's sure to come. Considering Emelianenko isn't fluent in English, it's not exactly a fair fight.

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No. I think his managers are afraid of him losing and them not making any money. Fedor would make huge money in the UFC even if he lost 2 out of 5 fights. He got offered a deal NOBODY has been close to before.

All the challengers are in the UFC. Aside from Overeem (who will be in the UFC the second his Strikeforce deal is over), nobody can come close. He just fucked his own legacy by not signing with them.

As far as I'm concerned, one current form, Georges St. Pierre is the pound for pound best fighter on the planet right now. Not not having great opponents only hurts his legacy.
I'll agree that his managers are afraid of him losing. He's their only commodity.

I've never been a Fedor fan but I'd hate to believe he's afraid of facing anyone.

Can cyborgs feel fear?
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fear that their flesh would be ripped from their machinery when they're dipped in acid by their Mob connected Managers?
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I think you guys forgot Fedor sign a two year,six fight deal with M-1. He just can't jump out of his contract with M-1 to take the UFC deal unless M-1 agreed to it which they didn't. I think he has 3 fights left under M-1.

By time he gets to UFC,he probably not be the same guy.
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Best thing about Fedor in comparison to other guys is that he looks like a random bum from the street. I mean others are helluva muscular, tattooed, stylish ( or so they think so ) haircuts and stuff, and he's just that balding, hangover-looking guy with a gut.
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I think you guys forgot Fedor sign a two year,six fight deal with M-1. He just can't jump out of his contract with M-1 to take the UFC deal unless M-1 agreed to it which they didn't. I think he has 3 fights left under M-1.

By time he gets to UFC,he probably not be the same guy.
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Fedor in UFC would have been a huge draw, because as somebody has already said US fans haven't all seen Fedor, but a lot have herd of his reputation as the best in the world. So if he would have been in UFC they would have shown clips given him Brock at the start, and built him up as a t-rex. But Strikeforce, a company that nobody really gives a shit about, and really isn't even seen as a number 2 company to UFC cannot push Fedor near the way UFC could.

Strikeforce is not a great company, its like the WWA or XWF to compare to pro wrestling. They don't have regular shows, they are iffy as to if they will stay in business, and their fighters all have something to prove. They have all been outcast or not accepted into UFC thus making them 2nd rate at least in the comman mans eyes (and the one who sees truth).

Bottom line IMO within a year or two Brock Lesnar will have the same reputation Fedor has and the biggest MMA marketing machine ever behind him. So Fedor, good job, your a pussy or an idiot or both. Fedor didn't want to go to UFC and suffer his first legit loss in his first fight, the biggest fight ever. And I know he would have. It's going to take a genius to beat Brock Lesnar if he keeps his game up. He will just hold you dont and smash your face. What can you do to stop a silverback?
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So Fedor, good job, your a pussy or an idiot or both.
seriously dude? Have you read the articles and what was going on? He doesnt have control of himself and HES ALREADY BEEN SIGNED WITH ANOTHER MMA PROMOTION! Yes M-1 is its own promotion and Fedor fights out of it. Therefore he has to be loaned out or copromoted with. Something UFC would not do.
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I read the Dave Meltzer yahoo article. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

M-1 said the deal UFC offer was not true and less than what's on the internet. Interesting?? Dana White and UFC has a history of stiffing fighters. Vince is the same way in wrestling and it's part of the reason why they are successful(WWE wrestlers don't get the money they deserve). Fans should not get mad at Fedor and M-1 though. Business is business
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Dude, Dana White is not stupid. He knows he's gotta shell out the big bucks for Fedor and I'm more likely to believe him than fuckin' shady ass M-1. A fight promotion that doesn't run shows and loans out its fighters to other promotions in exchange for a piece of the action? Pretty sure this what is known as a racket.
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You mean like the Golden Boy Promotion or Don King? That's how I look at M-1 Global. It's not really shady because they not doing anything the other company don't know about.

At the end of the day, it obviously the two can't co-exist. It would of been bad business.
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I read the Dave Meltzer yahoo article. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

M-1 said the deal UFC offer was not true and less than what's on the internet. Interesting?? Dana White and UFC has a history of stiffing fighters. Vince is the same way in wrestling and it's part of the reason why they are successful(WWE wrestlers don't get the money they deserve). Fans should not get mad at Fedor and M-1 though. Business is business
What is this history that the UFC has of stiffing fighters then?

You're talking total bollocks.
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I think he is talking about making them seem insignificant when he fails to sign them. Just like they did with Tito, and with Randy to a degree.

Don't really agree with the statement, but I think that's it's meaning.

M-1 clearly aquired Fedor with the Boxing promoter mentality, and it doesn't really hurt Fedor. He gets paid extreamly well, and he doesn't really care who he fights. And it doesn't really hurt M-1 because they are taking a good slice of the money whereever he is cross promoted. It does however hurt the progression of MMA. The beauty of MMA is that a dream fight between any 2 contenders is realised within 9 months of its conception. Everybody fights under the same banner. Everybodies pay remains fair and relative... well, certainly relative. And it allows the elite to prove their domiance. Boxing has been riddled with fights taking years to happen or even not happen at all due to promotion issues. Too many suits trying to get a piece of the action. To allow that sort of tradition to not only continue, but in a different sport... Shame on fedor.

At least he has signed with the promotion that is most likely to get the 3 shows on fastest and he will be out of contract. His next contract move will really show who and what he is.
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i can't imagine dana stiffing fedor. he must realize he needs fedor to make the UFC's heavyweight division legitimate. every other division i would be confident in saying they had the best fighters in the world, at heavyweight they have that one huge glaring omission which makes the UFC's belt slightly less reputable, albeit still the most prestigious one in mma.
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So you are saying the UFC heavyweight division isn't legit because it doesn't have one guy fighting in it?
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I'd wager that 85% of UFC fans don't have a clue who this Fedor guy is. So he is irrelavant to them and Dana would be wise to not speak too much about him. Don't give him the publicity.
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I'd wager that 85% of UFC fans don't have a clue who this Fedor guy is. So he is irrelavant to them and Dana would be wise to not speak too much about him. Don't give him the publicity.
Same could have been said about Anderson Silva, Rampage, Hendo, Showgun, etc etc etc..
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