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Old 08-20-2009, 09:42 AM   #41
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try geography aswell
What does that even mean?

Seriously?
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:42 AM   #42
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I think this just boils down to more CZW yard tards liking ECW due to the fact that is was closer to that shit garbage wrestling than anything else.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:35 AM   #43
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Georgraphy has nothing to do with it. The AWA was a national promotion.
still it wasn't international, to be honest i had never heard of it until this thread
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:38 AM   #44
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What does that even mean?

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it means people who are not from america most likley have never seen/heard of awa because it was never shown or spoke about however ecw was shown over here.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:50 AM   #45
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it means people who are not from america most likley have never seen/heard of awa because it was never shown or spoke about however ecw was shown over here.
AWA had a far more expansive TV and PPV market. They did shows overseas. THis whole argument is fucking retarded and incorrect. You make assumptions based on the fact that you didnt see them, probably because you are 13.
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still it wasn't international, to be honest i had never heard of it until this thread
ECW wasnt international fuck wit
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ECW wasnt international fuck wit
oh really? because i swear they were showing ecw hardcore tv in my country
you know , i guess you are right
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AWA had a far more expansive TV and PPV market. They did shows overseas. THis whole argument is fucking retarded and incorrect. You make assumptions based on the fact that you didnt see them, probably because you are 13.
double that number and you get my age.

awa never had a tv show here
awa never showed any Ppvs over here
also in all my years looking for wrestling tapes/dvd's i have never seen an awa one

and THAT is why i have never seen awa
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:41 AM   #49
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AWA was very much international. They ran shows all across North America, and would frequently bring in Asian wrestlers. The AWA also had T.V deals in Europe and would venture there. An example is the infamous Otto Wanz Heavyweight Title reign. Mr. Saito also won the AWA Title over Larry Zbysko in Japan.
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LOL!

Showing a syndicated TV show doesnt make it an international promotion. They never left US soil and had little to no international ties other than a piss poor limited talent exchange.

International Promotions have established business ties around the world, do shows from multiple countries.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:48 PM   #51
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LOL!

Showing a syndicated TV show doesnt make it an international promotion. They never left US soil and had little to no international ties other than a piss poor limited talent exchange.

International Promotions have established business ties around the world, do shows from multiple countries.
lol they went to Canada once. I went to the show.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:54 PM   #52
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I repeat, they never left US Soil.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:22 PM   #53
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lol they went to Canada once. I went to the show.
Actually they went to Canada all the time

They worked with Al Tomko's promotion when they did shows in Canada

They also had tv thru out Europe and Asia

I believe they went to Japan as well
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I think the wrestlers went to Japan, but i don't believe the actual promotion did. kinda like a talent exchange.
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I think the wrestlers went to Japan, but i don't believe the actual promotion did. kinda like a talent exchange.
yeah that's what I meant...

It seemed like Japan used alot of american talent in the late 70's and 80's as well as Puerto Rico
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:58 PM   #56
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AWA had Ricky Choshu and Saito as a tag team at one point. The Guerrero Brothers frequently did stints in the AWA too.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:30 PM   #57
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Yep I believe AWA also had japanese wrestler Jumbo Tsuruta as worlds champion breifly

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lots of wrestlers you wouldn't even think of have done AWA shots one time or another. Like Gertner said, there were constant talent exchanges going on within all the NWA promotions. Fresh Faces brought in $$$$.
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Being as I wasn't alive for AWA's era, I can't pick. Love ECW to death though.

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They ran shows in Japan. As a matter of fact, I have a Hardcore TV that details one of their Japanese tours. So yeah...
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:24 PM   #61
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Being as I wasn't alive for AWA's era, I can't pick. Love ECW to death though.

They ran shows in Japan. As a matter of fact, I have a Hardcore TV that details one of their Japanese tours. So yeah...
Yeah but that doesn't count as they usually did them with FMW....

Hey guys I was a fan of ECW as well but you cannot clearly tell me that ECW was better then AWA

AWA created legends all ECW did was take unwanted talent and make them indy superstars


AWA produced RIC FLAIR for crying out loud....
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I'm bumping this...

I'm actually surprised ECW is winning this poll, because based on the thread I really thought AWA was going to be killing it.

ECW is responsible for making wrestling industry the most profitable it ever was. Late 90's boom happened primarily because of the big 2 companies ripping ECW off.

ECW can't compete with the AWA roster, but ECW still made a ridiclious impact with 1/3 of the talent AWA had. That's really impressive.
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:16 PM   #63
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I will not give ECW that credit.

ECW drove WWF/WCW to their finest and changed the landscape.

AWA drove WWE/NA to their finest.

They are very similar.

I will neither say that ECW had a worst roster.

AWA had anaoming chance. They had Hogan before he was Hulk. They has the most amazing wrestlers ever come through.

but ECW roster over the years was just as good.

AWA had Hogan
ECW had Austin
AWA had Perfect
ECW had RVD

And so on
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I will not give ECW that credit.

ECW drove WWF/WCW to their finest and changed the landscape.

AWA drove WWE/NA to their finest.

They are very similar.

I will neither say that ECW had a worst roster.

AWA had anaoming chance. They had Hogan before he was Hulk. They has the most amazing wrestlers ever come through.

but ECW roster over the years was just as good.

AWA had Hogan
ECW had Austin
AWA had Perfect
ECW had RVD

And so on

AWA had Bockwinkel, Hall, Hansen, Brody, Rhodes, Murdoch, Ventura, Verne Gagne, Von Raschke, Road Warriors, Robinson, Martel, the Rockers, and so on.

ECW had The Dudleyz, Guerrero, Benoit, Malenko, Mysterio, Douglas, Bigelow


I'd take the AWA roster any day of the week.
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It still doesn't measure up to the AWA's talent roster. Anybody who was anybody came through the AWA.
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NWA > AWA in my opinion.
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NWA > AWA in my opinion.
Thats a Given

NWA > Everything

NWA > WWF > AWA > ECW > WCW > ROH > TNA
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I'd put WCW ahead of ECW. WCW during its peak was tremendous.
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but that was like 10 percent of their run. Think of 1990-1995. and 1999-2000

ECW was solid its whole run
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:48 PM   #73
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After 2000 it wasn't that great, especially in its final years.
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After 2000 it wasn't that great, especially in its final year.
Fixed.

2000/2001 was pretty good. Corino was the shit, Sandman and Raven had their return runs. Rhyno was a mad man
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2000/2001 was pretty good. Corino was the shit, Sandman and Raven had their return runs. Rhyno was a mad man
You get past those four are you were pretty much left with low card wrestlers. The roster had zero depth.
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Look at their Final PPV

RVD
Lynn
Rhino
Sandman
Corino
Credible
Balls
Simon Diamond
Whipwreck
Tajiri
Kid kash
Super Crazy
The FBI
Tommy Dreamer
CW Anderson
Nova
Doring
Roadkill

Pretty fucking deep. granted they had a couple shitty guys on the card (Chilly Willy, Hamrick, Dinero) that was a hella good roster.
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Not to mention they had Cyrus, Joel, Joey, Francine, Sinister Minister, Dawn Marie as on air personalities
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Look at their Final PPV

RVD
Lynn
Rhino
Sandman
Corino
Credible
Balls
Simon Diamond
Whipwreck
Tajiri
Kid kash
Super Crazy
The FBI
Tommy Dreamer
CW Anderson
Nova
Doring
Roadkill

Pretty fucking deep. granted they had a couple shitty guys on the card (Chilly Willy, Hamrick, Dinero) that was a hella good roster.
Solid workers no doubt, but in comparison to 2 years before it doesn't measure up. The tag division was the area that really stood out. Doring and Roadkill were essentially a jobber tag team in 99-2000, and they were the last world tag team champs.

The division consisted of Diamond and Swinger, The FBI, Tajiri/Whipwreck Doring and Roadkill, and Hott Commodity.
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Solid workers no doubt, but in comparison to 2 years before it doesn't measure up. The tag division was the area that really stood out. Doring and Roadkill were essentially a jobber tag team in 99-2000, and they were the last world tag team champs.

The division consisted of Diamond and Swinger, The FBI, Tajiri/Whipwreck Doring and Roadkill, and Hott Commodity.
Better than any tag division I have seen in 8 years.
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Consider the time frame though. ECW had teams like the Impact players, Eliminators, Gangstas, RVD/Sabu, Dudleyz. No way any of those teams would have come close to winning the belts( I'm aware FBI held the belts when it was smothers and Guido.)
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