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Old 09-14-2009, 10:02 PM   #761
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And there is is.

Leodis McKelvin needs to be benched next game.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:04 PM   #762
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Did anyone not see that happening
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:06 PM   #763
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Yeup, i think besides the Bills, only the Bengals are the other NFL team to be specialists in giving away games.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:08 PM   #764
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:12 PM   #765
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What an ending to Pats-Bills game
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:14 PM   #766
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:15 PM   #767
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Fucking losers. Move them to toronto already. i don't want to have to deal with this bullshit anymore.
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Yeup, i think besides the Bills, only the Bengals are the other NFL team to be specialists in giving away games.
My Panthers... well my shitty QB anyway
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:16 PM   #769
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Weird really. Just watching the game I kept saying "there's no way the Pats can REALLY lose their home opener to the Bills...no way", and they somehow found a way to lose.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:17 PM   #770
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:18 PM   #771
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:19 PM   #772
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They still have good enough players to be decent, Delhomme hasn't been the same last 2 years though.

Bills and Bengals is more mental than skills since when they can win, they give it away. I would include the Lions but they need to win more to get that type of bad luck.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:20 PM   #773
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Not very often you see an instance where one guy single-handedly loses a game for a team, but tonight was one of those times. McKelvin better not drop the soap in the shower.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:23 PM   #774
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They still have good enough players to be decent, Delhomme hasn't been the same last 2 years though.

Bills and Bengals is more mental than skills since when they can win, they give it away. I would include the Lions but they need to win more to get that type of bad luck.
The thing is, Delhomme has never been a great QB in my opinion. I've never wanted him. The only reason he looks good is because he's always had playmakers around him. Smith, Mus, Foster, Davis, now Stewart and Williams. Those guys don't need a great QB, they need someone that can put the ball near the wide receivers because Smith can go get it if it's within 10 yards and that opens your run game. The problem is, he hasn't even been a DECENT QB in 2 years.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:33 PM   #775
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Yeah, Steve Smith single handedly makes Delhomme look great. They only time Jake has a good statistical day is when Smith does as well.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:35 PM   #776
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Gruden was pretty good in the booth tonight. Way better than Kornheiser obviously.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:30 PM   #777
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Still can't believe how the Pats-Bills game ended. I was saying the whole time how the bills needed to make it an 11 point game to have enough of a cushion, and then mr. dick decides hes going to try and take one to the house as an exclamation point. Seriously, why else would you take that ball out of the end zone unless you saw a realistic chance of going all the way? The desire for personal glory defeats solid , smart football yet again. It's going to be a hell of a season.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:00 AM   #778
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Anyone see that bullshit call on the Raiders touchdown pass? Holy shit.
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Yeah I don't understand how that wasn't a TD for Oakland.

Missed like the whole Pats game cuz I was out furthering my education - caught the very end though
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San Diego is playing horrible right now. Its like they expected Raiders to do nothing and they would get an easy win. Raiders winning the mental battle and physical battle in the game so far.
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Russell is the fucking greatest QB. Did you see him blocking? Holy shit.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:50 AM   #784
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:54 AM   #785
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I don't think its Norv Turner's fault this time. Chargers are too flat and unfocused. You have Phillip Rivers basically rattled by Oakland's D and the running game not doing much. Its only close because Chargers D is still holding off the Raiders and Raiders offense is still average to bad when they need points.
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Hope Mayo's injury isn't that serious.

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Wow that was a sick pitch and catch between Rivers & Jackson
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How would you feel if your boss said Hey I'd rather have someone else do your job and if the price is right I'll get rid of you, but since we didn't get what we want I guess we'll just stick with you? I'd be pissed and I'd want out of the organization too.
I've actually dealt with something similar at an old job of mine. The chef who hired me eventually set me to be a kitchen lead after a few months. But when he quit and the new chef came in, he saw fit to bring in his own crew and fire some of the original staff. Lost my position, almost all the way down to dishwasher, but I understood why he'd do that. Sucked, but it's a business and the new chef was just trying to do what he thought it took to not eventually get fired. The turnover at that lace was insane, in the 2 1/2 years it's been open. It's had a new GM on average every 3 MONTHS, so he was right to be worried. And he did eventually get fired.

Now, while not exactly the same thing, they're similar enough. McDaniels just wanted (and with guys like Jordan, Gaffney, Hochstein, Smith, he did) to bring in his own guys. What commitment did McDaniels have to Cutler? He didn't draft him. Now if Dennison the OC or someone had been promoted from within and tried to trade him, I could understand Jay being upset. Those were his guys, and he'd have felt stabbed in the back.

When someone new with completely different ideas comes in, you need to be ready for anything. Regardless of what business you're in. A new boss means NO ONE is safe, especially if his star guy (let alone one he created) is available.

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As for Cutler not meeting with McDaniels, how is that a negative against Cutler? He didn't want to play for McDaniels anymore so what obligation does Cutler have to have go to some meeting that isn't going to solve anything?
Cutler was at first upset because Shanahan was fired, and cried publicly about it before McDaniels was even interviewed. Josh was screwed before he got hired. Whether McDaniels, Spagnuolo or Frazier was the HC, Cutler was going to cry. Then after they tried to trade him, he wanted a contract as a sign of commitment. And like I said, anytime McD tried to meet with him in regards to that, he no showed, sent his agent while he stayed in Indiana or simply refused.

After that is when Bowlen tried to step in. Jay ignored his calls and never returned any texts. No matter who you are or what you do for a living, never a good idea to disrespect the guy who signs your checks like that.

A couple days later, Cutler was gone.

While I totally understand Jay being upset, he ultimately carried on about it like a little bitch. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar business that few are lucky enough to be PAID to play. Get the fuck over your hurt ego and play. If Coach doesn't like you and wants someone else, you play your ass off and prove him wrong. You don't take a flight back home and not answer the boss' calls.
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DAM, thats like 3rd or 4th time in the opening week of NFL that a long bomb breaks up a close game assuming Raiders can hold off for the win.

Assuming Raiders can hold on, that would join Packers, Broncos, and Patriots for long bomb TDs to win a game. Pitt could have joined the list had Hines Ward not fumble the ball in late 4th.
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absolutely beautiful pass on 4th and long for the TD to give the Raiders the 20-17 lead.
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JT The Brick would be going crazy if he was on the radio, but hes at the game..
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I think it was Seymour that started the whole intensity of the Raiders today with the 2 sacks early in the game and the rest of the Raiders followed to disrupt the Chargers and Rivers/LT game plan.
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lol Raiders. Should have known. Atleast i picked them in my spread league getting 6.5 points.
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I wish I could search the amount of times "lol Raiders" has been said on the internet in the last 10 minutes
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Im doing a 5 team parlay this week which pays 17:1

Colts -3.5 @ Dolphins
Seahawks +2.5 @ 49ers
Cardinals +3.5 @ Jaguars
Falcons - 6.5 vs Panthers
Packers -9.5 vs Bengals

Im not touching Vikings/Lions or Rams/Redskins with a 10 foot pole (conveniently the same # of points the Skins/Vikings are favored). The Rams beat the Redskins last year on the road and I could see it happening again. Favre tends to struggle vs the Lions and its in Detroit which adds to the fun. There are a couple games still not on the board but I think those 5 are all I need.
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Called it

Serious drama potential right thurr
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Feels like every time there was a chance for a Week 1 upset, the favored team was just "lol jk" and somehow won.
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Im doing a 5 team parlay this week which pays 17:1

Colts -3.5 @ Dolphins
Seahawks +2.5 @ 49ers
Cardinals +3.5 @ Jaguars
Falcons - 6.5 vs Panthers
Packers -9.5 vs Bengals

Im not touching Vikings/Lions or Rams/Redskins with a 10 foot pole (conveniently the same # of points the Skins/Vikings are favored). The Rams beat the Redskins last year on the road and I could see it happening again. Favre tends to struggle vs the Lions and its in Detroit which adds to the fun. There are a couple games still not on the board but I think those 5 are all I need.
Wow seriously I'd reconsider the Cards. I mean I know they probably won't be as bad as they were against the 49ers, and Jax aren't all that, but they are TERRIBLE on the east coast.
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