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Old 09-30-2009, 12:34 AM   #1321
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I missed on Leinart but I was right about VY and Cutler. I was WAY off about Aaron Rodgers.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:36 AM   #1322
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Aaron Rodgers was the hangover from the failure that was Joey Harrington though, same system same results in college.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:40 AM   #1323
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If I was a GM, I would never draft a DE in the first round. Just looking at this draft history, so many busts. Only 2 1st round DE's drafted in the past 7 years have gotten double digit sacks in a season.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:41 AM   #1324
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Plus when you do draft a good DE, people get all in your shit about how you should've drafted Vince Young and Reggie Bush.
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To Stima's earlier point I really think the Browns are the worst team in football

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Old 09-30-2009, 11:44 AM   #1326
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Mario Williams sure did prove all those Reggie Bush fanatics wrong.
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On April 23, 2009, The Panthers signed Delhomme to a 5-year extension worth $42.5 million, with a $20 million guarantee, putting him under contract through 2014.

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I missed on Leinart but I was right about VY and Cutler. I was WAY off about Aaron Rodgers.
Vince Young was known to win games. Including that awesome comeback against the Giants. Him acting like a child is what ended up getting him on the bench. And Cutler is not a bust yet.
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #1329
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Derek Anderson back in as starting QB for the Browns.

Eric Mangini is such a terrible coach. lol. Brady Quinn is a fine QB but the system and talent around him on that offense is just pathetic. Throwing him in and out as the starter is not going to help.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:58 PM   #1330
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Vince Young was known to win games. Including that awesome comeback against the Giants. Him acting like a child is what ended up getting him on the bench. And Cutler is not a bust yet.
What? Cutler is good, which is what I thought he would be. How is there any debate there?

And yeah Young might've gotten benched for being a baby, but I'm sure his 68 QB Rating had plenty to do with it as well.
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Derek Anderson now starting in Cleveland. I was hoping Quinn would have been better.

I wonder if this will make Edwards better.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:47 AM   #1332
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They shouldn't have benched him in the first place.
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I don't know. I mean you have a former first round pick sitting on the bench. You need to give him a chance.
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He was really good two years ago when the Browns were good, which is a very rare thing. He got injured last year if I recall and he didn't do so hot. You could see from a mile away that Brady Quinn wasn't going to be able to do any better than Anderson, especially as a second or so year player. I bet Anderson signs with Tampa or some team in his career and takes them to the playoffs.
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I didn't watch any football at all last year though so my frame of reference is a little dated.
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What? Cutler is good, which is what I thought he would be. How is there any debate there?

And yeah Young might've gotten benched for being a baby, but I'm sure his 68 QB Rating had plenty to do with it as well.
You didn't really make it clear which way you were predicting when you were right. Something about the way you were talking made me think you meant you were right about both of them being busts.
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He was really good two years ago when the Browns were good, which is a very rare thing. He got injured last year if I recall and he didn't do so hot. You could see from a mile away that Brady Quinn wasn't going to be able to do any better than Anderson, especially as a second or so year player. I bet Anderson signs with Tampa or some team in his career and takes them to the playoffs.
Anderson had his one good season. Even then, I don't think it was as monster as people seem to think. And he didn't get injured last year, he was benched because he began sucking. Then Quinn came in and looked decent in a couple games, then HE got injured for the year giving Anderson the job back.

There is an investment in Quinn. I really think he's the better QB without a doubt. He was a first round pick for a reason and he's done nothing to prove himself to be a bust. He's stuck in a HORRIFIC offense. I thought he looked fantastic last year against Denver too. Quinn is not the problem as was shown by Anderson coming in and throwing 3 terrible look INTs last week. Quinn is the best QB on that team. He should be starting. Mangini is a fool.
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:55 PM   #1340
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Anderson is the better quarterback, easily
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I was actually kind of upset that the Ravens just waived Anderson. I know it wasn't a major move in 2005, but he started playing well in 2007 with Cleveland which was also coincidentally when McNair ended up hurt and Boller was sucking hard. If it hadn't been for Flacco I probably would have been really angry.
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When given the opportunity with the same team around him Quinn has outperformed Anderson EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Yet somehow, Anderson is the better QB... easily. lol
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When given the opportunity with the same team around him Quinn has outperformed Anderson EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Yet somehow, Anderson is the better QB... easily. lol
I think you're confused or something.

Anderson proved he can get it done in 2006 when he threw for close to 4,000 yards and almost 30 TDs. When has Brady Quinn ever done anything remotely close to something in just one game that would indicate he has that kind of ability? In 7 games he hasn't even thrown for 1,000 yards and only has 3 TDs.

The fact is that neither is going to have much success with the WR talent that they have. Outside of Edwards, who would be at best a #2 on about 75% of the rest of the NFL's depth charts, they dont have much in the way of WR talent. Furrey is a reject from the Lions, Cribbs has a lot of speed but is better suited at kickoff returning, and their 2nd best receiver is probably their TE Robert Royal. And we can't forget Stallworth getting in trouble and suspended as well..Combine this with the fact that Jamal Lewis is toast and they're going with 2 RB's who 99% of NFL fans probably couldnt even name (the 1% is probably hardcore fantasy football players, and thats a stretch because neither is even worth owning) and you can see why they haven't scored an offensive TD in the equivalent of half a season (8 weeks).
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I think you're confused or something.

Anderson proved he can get it done in 2006 when he threw for close to 4,000 yards and almost 30 TDs. When has Brady Quinn ever done anything remotely close to something in just one game that would indicate he has that kind of ability? In 7 games he hasn't even thrown for 1,000 yards and only has 3 TDs.
Last year, Anderson was benched because he couldn't get the job done. Not because he was injured... he was benched because he was sucking. Brady Quinn played very well that preseason and then came in after Anderson's benching and performed well and only lost because the defense crumbled.

Quinn only lost the job because he got injured. He was drafted as the future of the team and has done NOTHING to show that he can't get the job done.

Again, Anderson had ONE good season in which Quinn never got the chance to play. Last year Anderson was benched and Quinn came in and showed that he can outperform Anderson before going down to injury. Quinn won the starting job in the preseason by outperforming Anderson (Everyone kinda knew it was his job all preseason long.) This year, Quinn struggled. The entire offense struggled. And last week against the Ravens, Quinn... again... as bad as he and the entire offense may have looked all game OUTPERFORMED DEREK ANDERSON who threw three AWFUL looking picks. There is no confusion in any of that. My point stands.
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #1347
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It's probably better that Quinn isn't playing. In that offense all he's going to do is pick up a bunch of bad habits trying to force throws to guys who can't get open.
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In anticipation of the game on Sunday, Im gonna watch the reairing of the Patriots/Ravens game from 2007 on NFL Network where the Ravens came up about 45 seconds short of putting an end to the Pats undefeated season.

I vaguely remember the 07 game, but I think it was full of horrible calls on the Ravens which was odd because it was in Baltimore, usually home team gets the calls but I guess when its the undefeated destiny team you're playing..

I'm really hoping that they can bring a similar defense to NE on Sunday, as the 3 sacks they got in 2007 was the most sacks NE allowed in a game that year and it was the closest they came to losing, and obviously the Jets showed that getting to Brady is a key to beating them this year.
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I got money on the 49ers, so yeah, he'll probably somehow manage to throw for 400 yards and 4 TDs despite not having any WRs that I can name aside from Donnie Avery.
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It's probably better that Quinn isn't playing. In that offense all he's going to do is pick up a bunch of bad habits trying to force throws to guys who can't get open.
That makes sense actually. Just sucks that they just can't get some more talent in that offense.
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In anticipation of the game on Sunday, Im gonna watch the reairing of the Patriots/Ravens game from 2007 on NFL Network where the Ravens came up about 45 seconds short of putting an end to the Pats undefeated season.

I vaguely remember the 07 game, but I think it was full of horrible calls on the Ravens which was odd because it was in Baltimore, usually home team gets the calls but I guess when its the undefeated destiny team you're playing..
I remember getting pissed like 3 times in those last few minutes or soabout horrible playcalls or terrible calls by the officials. Amazing game other than that.
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Best part of that game was how bad the coaching was late in the game for the Ravens. Ravens basically got the 4th down play by the Patriots destroyed but its ruled as a no play since Ravens D coach calls a timeout as Brady hikes the ball. The face of the coach was one of those "oh shit what did i do" occurring the same time as the defense stopped the play cold.

That one mistake ruined the mentality of the Defense since that's when the penalties and arguing occurred after.
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Best part of that game was how bad the coaching was late in the game for the Ravens. Ravens basically got the 4th down play by the Patriots destroyed but its ruled as a no play since Ravens D coach calls a timeout as Brady hikes the ball. The face of the coach was one of those "oh shit what did i do" occurring the same time as the defense stopped the play cold.

That one mistake ruined the mentality of the Defense since that's when the penalties and arguing occurred after.
Rex "Im a defensive genius" Ryan called the time out, and Bart "dont call me boy" Scott got the 2 unsportsmanlike penalties.

The worst thing was I totally forgot that boller completed the hail mary pass at the end of the game...another yard and a half and that would have been EPIC.
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GIANTS WEEK 4 INACTIVES
WR Ramses Barden
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Woooo, Dockery is finally playing. Should give the secondary a boost. Wonder how much Nicks will be involved with him back in as well.

The only way the Giants lose this game is if they don't show up, like the MNF game against the Browns last year. In terms of individual performance, I really want to see Jacobs wake up and have a big game, possibly running over a few Chiefs to boot.
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Too bad he cant act..his show is pretty much dead.
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