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Old 10-25-2009, 01:14 AM   #41
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it was so weird though. like when they announced it was a unanimous decision i swear machida's head went down.
It did. And his jaw dropped when they said he won.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:15 AM   #43
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My fucking birthday has been ruined. I cant believe this just happend.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:16 AM   #44
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seriously feel so bad for shogun. like it cut to him right at the end having a bit of a head in hands/weepy moment in his locker room.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:17 AM   #46
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you'd think dana white would update his twatty twitter lark they keep banging on about the whole fucking time too.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:18 AM   #47
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Dana's probably trying to figure out how the hell to do damage control on this.
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Dana's probably trying to figure out how the hell to do damage control on this.
Exactly. He was shocked too. Just check the tape.
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I wish Dana could get away with not paying Machida for the win.
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This is fucking bullshit. I know where it leads. They'll have another rematch and somehow Machida will win and i'm sorry BUT THAT SHIT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:24 AM   #51
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thats the thing. it's not even a fight i want to see again. it was pretty dull really but shogun had it. i was getting all geared up to wank myself silly over an anderson/shogun fight but no.
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Everyone needs to take a breath.
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Unfortunately, it was probably the first two rounds that decided the fight.

Those two rounds that were really close and because of the bullshit scoring, someone "has" to win. I wouldn't doubt that they went to Machida.

I actually gave Machida Round 3. I felt Shogun had Rounds 4 and 5. I would blame CSAC and the Judges.

Basically, Shogun won, but I can see how he didn't. And that pisses me off.
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Oh a rematch? Great. Meanwhile Shogun gets a loss on his record, the losers share of the purse and no belt. The rematch won't draw shit either (as if this fight did) because Machida looked beatable.
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No... Shogun won the first 2 rounds easily. You obviously didnt order the fight. Shogun dominated the first 4 rounds and probably won the last round.
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Shogun had that fight won. I'd say if Machida were to have won anything at all... I'd say 2 rounds at the most and that's being generous. But Shogun had the fight and should be the newly crowned light heavyweight champion.

Guess this builds for a "big rematch" tween the two sometime down the road.
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thats the thing. it's not even a fight i want to see again. it was pretty dull really but shogun had it. i was getting all geared up to wank myself silly over an anderson/shogun fight but no.
Would love to see a rematch. Thought it was a great technical standup fight. Immense strategy by both, esp Shogun. Took away Lyoto's stance and power generation.
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It's like Rob said, there is no "big rematch." The hype is dead because Rua took all the hype out of Machida. It's not like it was really a "close" fight. Furthermore, it wasn't that exciting either.
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Unfortunately, it was probably the first two rounds that decided the fight.

Those two rounds that were really close and because of the bullshit scoring, someone "has" to win. I wouldn't doubt that they went to Machida.

I actually gave Machida Round 3. I felt Shogun had Rounds 4 and 5. I would blame CSAC and the Judges.

Basically, Shogun won, but I can see how he didn't. And that pisses me off.

You're right. The judges (actually not sure about Doc Hamilton) had the first 3 rounds to Machida.

Blind cunts.
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Watch the fight, then comment.
I'll comment now thank you very much.

If a fight is rigged, their has to be a reason its rigged, I don't need to see the fight to know that.

I've seen bad decisions before and I believe you guys when you say this is amongst the worst, but that doesn't mean the sport isn't legit.
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it was a great technical fight but i think we know that the rematch isnt gonna be a whole lot different to this one, except that machida is now wiser to rua's gameplan.
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Rua fought a magnificent fight. He found a way to exploit Machida's weaknesses and full on assault them. He neutralized his evasiveness and literaly took the legs out from under him. It's a sham that we aren't celebrating his genius right now.
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I'll comment now thank you very much.

If a fight is rigged, their has to be a reason its rigged, I don't need to see the fight to know that.

I've seen bad decisions before and I believe you guys when you say this is amongst the worst, but that doesn't mean the sport isn't legit.

Who seriously said it wasn't legit?


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also, i think this fight was basically the MMA version of the first rocky film.
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I will never watch or even keep track of another UFC fight again. Good luck in Tipsters. I'm fucking done. For good. I cant follow a sport that is rigged. This shit right here is rigged.
It wasn't rigged, you just got a situation where three judges made bad decision. If you watched the baseball playoffs their have been a lot of blown calls, that doesn't mean Major League Baseball is rigged. I trust that this was a terrible decision, but it's not a conspiricy, just guys making stupid decisions.

Step back from that ledge.
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it was a great technical fight but i think we know that the rematch isnt gonna be a whole lot different to this one, except that machida is now wiser to rua's gameplan.
Maybe, but Machida would have to leave his entire life's training to counter Shogun. Machida's entire background is based on the shotokan style of hip and leg power generation. That's what he's trained in most prominently his whole life. It'd be a challenge for him to adopt a more conventional MMA style. Not impossible, but definitely hard for him.
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No... Shogun won the first 2 rounds easily. You obviously didnt order the fight. Shogun dominated the first 4 rounds and probably won the last round.
You're right on one thing: I didn't order the fight. I watched it at Hooters.

I also drove all the way across town to my house, giving myself time to digest what I saw. I wouldn't doubt that they gave Machida Rounds 1, 2, and 3. Do I agree with that assessment? not necessarily.

You seem to be running on pure emotion at this point. I do want to restate the following...

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Basically, Shogun won, but I can see how he didn't. And that pisses me off.
That bit should be taken as a whole, and you'll see that I'm not arguing with you.
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Maybe, but Machida would have to leave his entire life's training to counter Shogun. Machida's entire background is based on the shotokan style of hip and leg power generation. That's what he's trained in most prominently his whole life. It'd be a challenge for him to adopt a more conventional MMA style. Not impossible, but definitely hard for him.
nah i just mean he knows shogun is going for leg kicks and body kicks. everyone else he's fought thus far has just been trying to knock him out and perhaps not giving him the proper respect, shogun threw him in that regard.
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Read a report that Shogun spat in Dana's face after the fight, destroyed the announcer's monitors and then spelled out STRIKEFORCE in the air to the fans in the arena.
ROFL
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and ROFL. Very fucking true tho
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another thing, how come to johnson fight was allowed to go on despite the fact he was like 6lbs overweight? i mean ok if they still want to fight but it seems harsh that guy gets a loss on his record when fighting a guy twice the size of him.
I heard he gave up a big chunk of his purse in exchange. Dude should be a middleweight at worst and light heavyweight at best.
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After that fight, Machida better hope to god Randy Couture beats Brandon Vera because he has the perfect style to murder him and now it's been proven.
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Who seriously said it wasn't legit?


Don't tell people who to react either. That's what nazi's like Krispy bollocks do.
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Just watch the fight, you fucking dunce. Jesus christ.
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Dude.. You're a fucking blind. Shogun owned Machida in every single aspect of MMA that they possibly went through. Kicks> Shogun. Punches > Shogun. Counters > Shogun. There was no part in the first 4 rounds that Machida won. None. If you continue to argue that there was, then i think you have some sort of mental retardation. That or you didnt actually watch the fight. Shogun dominated this fight. Machida didnt do anything to Shogun that would leave ANYBODY ( not payed off ) TO BELIEVE MACHIDA WON THE FIGHT!

That simple. You're wrong. You're so wrong that you need to delete your post and never be heard from again. Bye.
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nah i just mean he knows shogun is going for leg kicks and body kicks. everyone else he's fought thus far has just been trying to knock him out and perhaps not giving him the proper respect, shogun threw him in that regard.
I gotcha. But IMO, the way Shogun fought that fight wasn't necessarily just the way to defeat Machida, it is the way to defeat the style. Like you said, Shogun threw him in that regard since no one else figured out how to combat Machida's karate and assumed they could simply MMA their way to victory.
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Remember Couture vs. Sylvia? Imagine if they gave Sylvia that decision.
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I'm not gonna reply to you any further until you get over your little bitch fit, which is what you are going through at this moment.
I'm going through it because you're a punk ass bitch
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