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Old 11-23-2009, 11:06 PM   #561
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:06 PM   #562
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lol table match, even worse
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:06 PM   #563
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Table match, not TLC??? Boring.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #565
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First ever Table match for a the title?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #566
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That makes more sense. A tables match for these 2 seems more on point.
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lol, now I remember why I tend to avoid the Raw threads.

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Old 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #568
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That was actually pretty awesome.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #569
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Lol idk what to think of that promo but I wish they were in MSG
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Shitty ending for me, enjoyed the rest though.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #572
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So the PPV is actually called TLC: Tables, Ladders, or Chairs?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:08 PM   #573
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Small town crowds tend to be weak. I wish they had Raw in MSG multiple times per year.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:08 PM   #574
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My only concern is will they treat Sheamus as they did with Miz when it looked like they were pushing him against Cena and then killed it or will this actually start a build up to make Sheamus a better contender down the road.

With the Miz, his push basically ended and only got back during his feud with Morrison.
Yeah but the 2 aren't comparable. Miz and Sheamus have been booked completely differently, just like they should be. Sheamus is made to look like a monster, Miz looked like a pussy. If Sheamus doesn't go full time headliner off the back of this (which I'm 95% sure that he won't) he'll go back to killing bitches in the midcard.
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as of right now, the Cena-Sheamus match screams epic fail. Lets see what they can build up in a few weeks.
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I LOVE Sheamus winning this.

Kofi can go on to fuck Randy up in a chairs match & I do suspect that Sheamus will win the title. I also suspect that monkeys will soon fly out my arse.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:10 PM   #577
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lol, now I remember why I tend to avoid the Raw threads.

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Old 11-23-2009, 11:11 PM   #579
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Had to have Ventura do his promo because he has nothing to say that is worth listening to. Shame, because the idea is there, but I don't think Seamus is really ready for this, and it will only effect the output at the end of the day.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:11 PM   #580
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Because people have different opinions than you?
It's not about opinions. Just the constant bitching is really annoying.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:11 PM   #581
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I LOVE Sheamus winning this.

Kofi can go on to fuck Randy up in a chairs match & I do suspect that Sheamus will win the title. I also suspect that monkeys will soon fly out my arse.
No way Sheamus wins the belt 4 months before Mania.

Also peeps, do you know who Sheamus spends most of his time in the gym with?



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Old 11-23-2009, 11:11 PM   #582
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CSLi Manning, say what you like but a lot of the time, unlike all the catchphrases you mentioned, Cena tends to fall flat because his bullshit is so forced.
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Again, I am all for the fresh match. Fuck, it's what everyone has been wanting for a while now.

But seriously, Sheamus? What makes him seem like a legit threat to the title? Throwing a guy who beat an agent one week and booted Lawler the next into a title match isn't really building a star.
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Had to have Ventura do his promo because he has nothing to say that is worth listening to. Shame, because the idea is there, but I don't think Seamus is really ready for this, and it will only effect the output at the end of the day.
Spot on.

I thought his sudden move to RAW was a bit of a stretch. Now this? Since coming to RAW he has had a couple unimpressive squashes that involved nothing more than punch/kick combos (minus the powerbomb ending of course).


Can he really pull off a main event match on PPV?


I'm excited they are trying new things, which is nice. I'll give this a thumbs up for now...but the build better be hot or it will fail.
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CSLi Manning, say what you like but a lot of the time, unlike all the catchphrases you mentioned, Cena tends to fall flat because his bullshit is so forced.
Absoloutely a lot of it falls flat, because most of the time it's childish, 'I don't give up' followed by some kiddy insults. But not when he cuts promos like he did tonight. Which people still pick fault with.
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Again, I am all for the fresh match. Fuck, it's what everyone has been wanting for a while now.

But seriously, Sheamus? What makes him seem like a legit threat to the title? Throwing a guy who beat an agent one week and booted Lawler the next into a title match isn't really building a star.
I don't think anyone, smark or casual, really believes that Sheamus has a shot at winning the title. It's more about giving Sheamus the rub and seeing what he can do on the big stage. You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
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It's good that new guys are stepp...being thrown to the top in this case, but as Fabien said, Sheamus just doesn't seem ready to go big yet. Maybe down the road, but since his move to the red brand he hasn't shown all that much [to me].
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Screech he has shown that he can throw punches and has an impressive boot kick.


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Is the newest IWC fad to hate on Sheamus?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:18 PM   #591
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It's good that new guys are stepp...being thrown to the top in this case, but as Fabien said, Sheamus just doesn't seem ready to go big yet. Maybe down the road, but since his move to the red brand he hasn't shown all that much [to me].
For sure, he's just been given the generic monster push 101 but at least they're doing something. The daftest little thing can catch on at anytime in wrestling.
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I don't think anyone, smark or casual, really believes that Sheamus has a shot at winning the title. It's more about giving Sheamus the rub and seeing what he can do on the big stage. You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
I agree with you, but giving him the rub at this stage seems too early to me. The fact that it is a tables match doesn't really help, either.

My feeling is, if a guy needs to "prove he can hang" it needs to be one on one.
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Is the newest IWC fad to hate on Sheamus?
Nah, because even if Kofi had won, there'd be people saying that Kofi has only been pushed for the past 4 weeks or so and isn't ready to main event.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:19 PM   #594
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My feeling is, if a guy needs to "prove he can hang" it needs to be one on one.
What better way to prove you can hang than main eventing a throw away PPV?
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Is the newest IWC fad to hate on Sheamus?
I'm not hating. I"m excited for new things. I just don't think Sheamus has done enough to warrant this rub. If he would have came to RAW and dominated IN GOOD MATCHES that caught peoples attention...sure...but to simply do 2-3 random squashes while showing limited offensive skill scares me. Who would pay 40 bux to watch a squash guy? 1 match doesn't make a man...time does. Umaga is a great case and point here. He started off as a squash guy who went on to give Cena one of the coolest matches he has ever had...but that was after he developed quite a lot.
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For sure, he's just been given the generic monster push 101 but at least they're doing something. The daftest little thing can catch on at anytime in wrestling.
I will give you that. All Kofi had to do was lose his accent. Before that, no one thought of him as a major player.

I'm willing to give this a shot, but right now my outlook is cloudy.
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It's something new, who cares.
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What better way to prove you can hang than main eventing a throw away PPV?
That will help, but does performing in a tables match really show all that much? Worse guys have main-evented (nay, become champions) due to gimmick matches.
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Way too early. WAAAAY too early for Sheamus. Sorry, but there are at least four other guys who SHOULD have gone into that spot that I can name off the top of my head. Swagger, Miz, MVP, Morrison. I only exclude Kofi because he's been feuding with Orton.

And why Swagger wasn't in the match to begin with is beyond me. Morrison and Miz I can kind of see since they're current champions.

Pushing Sheamus is fine. Pushing him this far this fast could blow up in their faces.
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It's something new, who cares.
A GM hasn't booked themselves into a WWE title match and won it.

How does Verne Troyer: WWE Champion sound? It's new.
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