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Old 12-16-2009, 02:15 PM   #641
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Or One of the Mariners prospects failed the physical and they end up having to keep Lee.

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Old 12-16-2009, 02:27 PM   #642
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Now what I'm hearing is Phillippe Aumont canceled the trade and or failed his pysical.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:29 PM   #643
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Yeah, I don't even really understand why Seattle is needed or why the Phillies don't just keep Lee.

Phillies are sending Drabek and Taylor to Toronto. I think Travis d'Arnaud is from Seattle though right? So he's the only piece actually going from Seattle to Toronto. I don't know how big a prospect he is but Drabek and Taylor seem to be the big pieces. Seems really easy for the Phillies to just send one more piece and get Halladay for Drabek, Taylor and that final piece. And keep Lee.
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It's all money. They don't feel they can afford Lee and Halladay even for year. I would disagree with that.

So with this whole thing they think they can still be good now, and for the future with the prospects they would be getting from Seattle. Hence why the Halladay trade didn't happen in the Summer.

Hopefully this latest development is true and they keep Lee and Halladay.
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Glen Jacobs failed his pysical.
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That makes sense since he is a fuck up.
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Cliff Lee has officially been traded
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The Lee part is done...apparently gonna be a press conference at 5 PM though to announce Halladay being official.
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The entire deal is now official. Damn.
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Did you guys say anything about Cameron to Boston being official yet. I think it's done
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Yeah Cameron and Lackey were officially unveiled today.

The Red Sox envision Cameron platooning in left with Hermida, while also filling in for Ellsbury and Drew. But I dunno...wouldn't shock me at all if Ellsbury goes with Buccholz to San Diego in the Adrian Gonzalez trade.

Hell, if the Mike Lowell-to-the-Rangers trade doesn't officially go through, I could see them sticking Youk out in left with Cameron in center full-time.

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Could be mad ridiculous.
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Why would you bench Elsbury for Cameron's broken down ass?
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In that situation Ellsbury would be on another team.
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I really don't think anyone is getting Adrian Gonzalez. The Padres have him under control the next 2 years at an average of like $4.7 million/year. If I were them I'd want Ellsbury, Bucholz, Jed Lowrie, Junchi Tazawa, Casey Kelly and Ted Williams
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I'm reading in some places that the Mets upped their offer for Bay to 5 years, $79 million.

I don't think it's that bad for what they need right now tbh. But of course, since it's the Mets everyone's like ROFL METS OVERPAYING FOR BAY!!!1111!!!
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They are gonna regret that when he loses a step in the outfield and is more terrible than he is now at fielding though. Was reading an article that over the last 3 years Bay has been the 5th worst fielder in baseball. His offense will definitely help though.

If I was the Mets I still would have gone after Holliday and had Bay as my back-up option. Especially since they aren't getting any big money pitcher like Lackey.
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I agree...Holliday is obviously better than Bay. There are whispers that the Mets are talking to Holliday again now that it turns out the deal the Cards offered him isn't as enormous.

The way I see it though, Bay is still good and is obviously being imported for his bat. Everybody knows it. Most teams have at least one shitty-fielding outfielder anyway, normally always in LF. I have a hard time making a huge deal about it, especially with Beltran and Francoeur covering the rest of the ground. Bay will prolly be crap in 2014, but by then it will hopefully be the only bad contract on the team.

Mets are also gonna keep an eye on Delgado and might offer him a cheap 1-year deal if he proves he's healthy in Winter Ball. I LOVE Daniel Murphy, but Ike Davis seems poised to take over in 2011 at 1B. I'm not entirely sure where Murphy fits in for the future. If a healthy Delgado can be had on the cheap for 1 year, I'd do it.

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Can be a pretty nasty lineup.
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Sindey Ponson won Worst Pitcher of the Decade on ESPN..

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I just read on the ESPNEWS ticker that the Yanks are talking to Nick Johnson about a 1-year deal.

Last week $man was close to getting sainthood. Now he does this? I don't get it.

Oh, and Damon wants a multiyear, $13 mil per deal. Good luck getting that.
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I just read on the ESPNEWS ticker that the Yanks are talking to Nick Johnson about a 1-year deal.

Last week $man was close to getting sainthood. Now he does this? I don't get it.

Oh, and Damon wants a multiyear, $13 mil per deal. Good luck getting that.
If Nick comes cheap Ill take a 1 year deal for him to spell Teix and platoon at DH. Dude can still stroke it when he is healthy, maybe a DH role is i nthe cards for him.
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Any word on where Chapman lands?
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Also, Erik Bedard is an intriguing case. He could land somewhere and put of a decent year if he can stay healthy.
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I just want to see the Yanks land a solid DH option. What about Delgado...He could tear it up in the new park, might come cheap, and a move to DH could help him as well.
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Damon would still be my first option at DH. But not if his demands keep being ridiculous.

I wouldn't mind having Nick back but if they wanted someone who couldn't play anywhere but DH why didn't Cashman go after Matsui? Matsui was the best strictly DH option out there.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:59 AM   #669
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:07 AM   #670
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Orioles moving fast agreeing to terms with Garrett Atkins and Mike Gonzalez.
Atkins can play 1B/3B and should be a good stop gap for one year til Brandon Snyder and Josh Bell are ready, and even then they could still keep him.

Mike Gonzalez is interesting..dont think he's closer material but a solid bullpen arm is nice to have.

The Os are also supposedly the other team with Boston in the Adrian Gonzalez sweepstakes BUT the Padres want Adam Jones and Brian Matusz at a minimum from the Os (Buchholz and Ellsbury from Boston)..dont wanna give up Adam Jones..and apparently the Os boards dont wanna give up Matusz so..I dunno. They could use that bat..he would fn rake the ball at Camden Yards..
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:13 AM   #671
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Garrett Atkins rules

hope he's successful in Baltimore
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:13 AM   #672
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who the fuck is jamey carroll and why did we sign him.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:15 AM   #673
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Jamey Carrol was on the 2007 Rockies team

pretty good utility guy.

hit the sac fly in the play in game too
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:15 AM   #674
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Interesting move by the Orioles. They were the front runners, along with the Phillies, to acquire Fernando Rodney
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:21 AM   #675
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They're also interested in Matt Capps.

They need a closer and pretty much a whole new bullpen, but it wont be like a couple years ago (07) when they blew about $42 million on Dannys Baez, Scott Williamson, Chad Bradford and Jamie Walker(BOY!)...
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:10 AM   #676
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I read the Rockies want Matt Capps also
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I also think that's a great pickup by the O's on Atkins
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Mets and Reds are reportedly in serious discussion. The Mets initially called about Bronson Arroyo, but it is believed they are pursuing two other players from there as well. Hmm.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:08 PM   #679
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Vito, where you reading this about the Mets and Reds?
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LOL the Mets are so trading for Brandon Phillips
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