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Old 01-26-2010, 09:23 PM   #121
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Once you play it, you'll understand. It wipes the floor with anything released in the past 3 years for me.

Anyways, if you pick up the game second hand, it will cost you $15 just to get the storefront to buy additional DLC which is pretty lame.
Well, unless it earns the first ever "11 - Mecha Godzilla's Pick ("The unicorn in the forest. Will. never. happen. NEVER.")" from OXM (which it didn't and only got a 9.4), then I'd say it would be all but guaranteed. But I'm sure it's a great game, a little disappointed my bro didn't pick it up on a pre-order from anywhere, but I think I'll pay the local video shop a visit first thing in the morning, as they should have copies in by then. Definitely gotta play this through, one way or another whether by rental or purchase, don't even really care which, just want my fuckin' ME2 fix.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:20 AM   #122
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just loaded it up right now and have high expectations.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:57 AM   #123
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:38 AM   #124
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I really wish I'd made more of an effort to play the first one when it came out - I'm now stuck trying to finish it before ME2 comes out on Friday and I just can't see it happening.

Only gotten as far in as finding Liara and I'm on Noveria currently. Seems like there's still quite a bit to go.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:39 AM   #125
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yeah i think it takes about 30 hrs to complete the first one with minimal side quests.
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:32 AM   #126
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Decided to rush through the first one too before I buy ME2. I downloaded Bring Down the Sky a long time ago but never played it. Guess I'll do that too.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:15 AM   #127
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yeah i think it takes about 30 hrs to complete the first one with minimal side quests.
What? It took me like 13 hours.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:38 PM   #128
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You can rush through the first game if you don't do side quests. With side quests, I would guess about 30-35 hours depending if you are any good at the game or not and if you die or not all the time.

We completed probably 95% of the first game, and it took us about 30 hours. That was with two people switching on and off.. might have missed a couple side quests, but got most of them, and only didn't do like 1 of the collection quests. Did the rest though.

Judging by what we've done in ME2 so far, I would say the second game is probably about as long as the first.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:05 PM   #129
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Yeah I'm pretty good at it but I put it on casual diff anyway so I can get through it no problem.
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:13 PM   #130
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Put some miles on this today and here are my early thoughts. No spoilers, I promise.

Pros:
New upgrade system is cool. Gotta work for some stuff, but that's ok.
The save file does more than you know. Stumbled on a few little things in my quest so far.

Cons:
Do I REALLY need to buy gas and probes?
I agree with whoever said it, ain't liking how they dumbed down the guns and armor mangement.
No map during "story" areas.

Minor note.

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Who's on the Guyver fix over at BioWare? I downloaded that Collector's armor that Hasney provided the link to and it's almost a dead ringer to the Guyver suit.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:15 PM   #131
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:40 PM   #132
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i put in 2 hrs last night and was very happy with what ive seen so far. i hope that save file does something later on, i mean so far all i got was extra credits for having a level 46 character from the first game.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:41 PM   #133
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also, bring down the sky campaign from the first game was good, took about 40 mins to complete.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:37 AM   #134
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i put in 2 hrs last night and was very happy with what ive seen so far. i hope that save file does something later on, i mean so far all i got was extra credits for having a level 46 character from the first game.
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i dunno, i guess i havent gotten far enough into it.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:02 AM   #136
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So far I've dumped in just over 6+ man-hours into this game. Very intriguing stuff so far.
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So far I've dumped in just over 6+ man-hours into this game. Very intriguing stuff so far.
What other kind of hours could you dump into it? Robot-hours?
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:54 AM   #138
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Went ahead and bought it. Gonna play some without my ME saved game. Casually go through ME 1 and beat it again then use the saved game for this.
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Loved it. From start to finish. Some of the things have been mentioned elsewhere and are minor drawbacks, but I'll add two gripes...

Would have liked a little more involvement with the prior crew, hopefully ME3 brings back everyone full circle, but I'd imagine that might be hard seeing as...
While my first time going through the ending, I lost no one, but after re-doing it (I'll get to that shortly) I lost Garrus, Jack, the Vet, and Jacob.


So I'd imagine that will be hard to write for.

My second gripe is the new game +. There's no point for it. Your upgrades do not transfer, which I thought I did something wrong so I redid the last mission. This wouldn't be a huge deal if the 1,000,000 iradium that you spent four hours harvesting transferred (it doesn't). Your credits don't transfer, in fact nothing does outside of your level. I'd be ok with that, if the cap wasn't 30, and you weren't a level 29 after completing everything your first go around. So unless it's for achievement point value, there's no point.

I know that the level cap is so that it's easily translated to the next game, but I'd like to replay the same character to level 1000 if I want, that's what makes RPG's charming. Go ahead and drop it to level 3 next game, but give me an incentive to replay the same character this go around, not force me to make a new guy that I never wanted in the first place.
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I do want to say this...

You might be retarded if you trade in any of the Mass Effect "Trilogy" disks. This series has already proven itself to push the standards and I expect great things to come. My last post was somewhat negative, and I don't want anyone to think this game isn't the tits.

On a commercial note, as someone that just sold his Dreamcast games of Legacy of Kain, Marvel vs. Capcom II, and most importantly Skies of Arcadia for over 100 bucks a piece (Skies sold for almost 2, and I had duplicates, can you say UNDERRATED), I will say having originals of each of the series will benefit you more than the trade-in fee.

Just started replaying the first one again, and believe me the bar is now set too high for RPG's. Dragon Age was good, but this/these game[s] treat all current RPG's like her bitch. FF drops this year, as does Heavy Rain (not really a RPG, but neither was Omikron, and people still sleep on that); and all future games need to step up. This is a series that won't be touched (GoW is close... God of War that is) in this generation. IGN ranked the first ME best game on the system for a reason, ME2 proves Bioware is the company to strive for, if not the company to pander to.

By the by, where the fuck is a Legacy of Kain game?
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I love the adverts on The Citadel.

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Hamlet with an all Elcor cast.
That's mentioned in the first one, during one of the elevator rides.

Annoyed by the number of load screens in this. I mean, so far none are as long or tedious as the elevators from the first, but if you want any deck other than CIC in the Normandy, you're looking at a minimum of four load screens...one to get into the Normandy, one to get to the deck in question, one to get back, one to leave.

not always so bad, mind.

Also pissed they dumbed shit down. I decided to reserve judgment until I played the game, but this is not streamlined. It's not the "for dummies" version, even. It's the lead paint eating version.

And the whole "cover shooting" deal. The first used it somewhat, but now the game has "chest high wall" syndrome. This isn't terrible either.

Otherwise, it's a great game with a few annoying glitches so far. Engaging story, good graphics, voice acting that isn't just perfunctory, combat that's functional, etc.
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Beat it last night and began my second play through.

Honestly, this falls into place right next to Mass Effect 1 as one of my favorite games ever. There were some annoying things. Some tiny glitches. Some load screens that got annoying. But for the most part, it is a very solid game, with a very fun combat system.

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We didn't complete the mission with everyone surviving. Mordin died, as we sent him as 'the tech' to go for the first part in the last mission. I am unsure.. but if you send Tali, does the entire party survive? We sent Garrus as the 'squad leader', and used The Justicar as our biotic force field person. Still, Mordin was the only one who died. Wish I had known how it worked, but we didn't want to risk losing Tali because we totally boned her before coming on the mission.


Beat the first couple intro levels on hardcore difficulty, and it is already ridiculously challenging You get to keep your armor and equipment, and your skills (plus you get to start with the bonus skill of your choice). Can't tell you how many times I've already died.
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- Leveling up is definitely dumb. I think the weapons leveling is what bugs me most. The last game, you could equip a lesser weapon with a certain type of ammo and you could still make it useful. In ME2, once you get a new weapon theres no point or advantage to switching to an older one.

- Cover system was wonky for me at times. I was thinking about trying it on insane difficulty but theres no way I can deal with it. I do like how you can send out squadmates to two different locations this time. And for the most part, they react wonderfully. A few times they would run out of cover into fire and do stupid shit but not often. No complaints with the power wheel either. Ammo seemed pointless. Especially since theres so much of it laying around. I think I ran out of ammo twice the whole game. And both times I would immediately find more in the next room. I guess whether it's overheating weapons or ammo clips, somethings gotta be in there to make sure we aren't constantly spraying the enemy.

- The ending reminded me of a lame ass RPG game. I wish I played some to give you an idea of what I mean. Like the entire village is finally gathered to slay the dragon at the end of the game but one wrong turn of the card or roll of the dice and your best friend is eaten by enchanted trolls. And there was no real closure this time around. In ME1, either humans are on the council or are ruling the galaxy. This time around, it seemed like every major decision you make will be resolved in ME3. I don't think we got a clear ending except for beating James Cameron's Terminator.

- On a technical note, the ending was choppy for me. I'll try loading it onto my HDD next time but the scenes didn't rally flow together. It almost ruined the moment. But I guess I'm just nitpicking now.

- DIDN'T GET LAID AT ALL! WTF. HUGE SPACE NERD. Like in order to defuse the situation between Miranda and Jack, I said Jack was right but that pissed off Miranda. So I go to talk to Jack but tell her I don't wanna do her because she's loony. And then Tali comes onto me but I tell her no because I don't wanna deal with her bullshit. AND THEN when I go to talk about the genophage with Mordin he's all "Sorry Shepard, I don't go that way". Can't even get gay space sex. Shepard just ended up staring at a picture of Ashley before the suicide mission starts which is when I think the fucking takes place. I saved it before the suicide mission though so I'm going to try and bone Miranda. I think I have to max out my paragon though because the only conversation options are "goodbye" and two grayed out choices on the left.

- Loved the Joker mission. Wasn't expecting it at all.

- Is it possible to play the game without waking Legion or Grunt? I guess it is. It seems like it will be a bitch for Bioware next game to write all of these possible stories.

- Yeah, I definitely want to run it from that save again. Legion, Jacob, and Miranda died and I blew up the base. I guess I have to have all or most of the upgrades to save everyone? But then half the crew died so I don't wanna waste too much time getting upgrades or scanning planets for upgrades. I don't even know how Miranda died. I was jumping back onto my ship and it showed her laying on the ground.

- And finally, THE ILLUSIVE MAN IS NOT HUMAN. There's no way. I think the novels or comic books show his backstory but it's all bullshit. And I'm willing to bet that Bioware will have it so that if you blew up the base, he'll be human in ME3 and scold you for blowing up Protheian technology. But if you save that technology he'll use it and show his true form which is not human. His "base" is right next to the collector's. They have the same exact sun but they're just on opposite sides so they're in the game cluster. And once you detonate the radioactive nuclear bomb, the sun changes it's color when you talk to Illusive Man. I wanna save everyone and save the technology when I load it up to see what Illusive Man does, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Dunno if he's a reaper/geth/harbringer whatever. He might be a hybrid of everything. I dunno. BUT HE'S NOT HUMAN. I know that much.


Great game. I can't believe how much time I spent on it.
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:54 PM   #148
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Did you guys to any side missions at all? Or did you just do the story only. Can't be done with the game that fast.
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Did most of the side missions. I think I missed a few. There weren't that many actually which is something else I was going to bring up. A whole lotta "meat" in this game. You spent the game recruiting your team and gaining their loyalty. There was only a few pointless side quests. Definitly a good call.
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I love the adverts on The Citadel.

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YES! I loved that commercial from the first one but then hearing more of it in this one made my day.
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Did the majority of the game. Didn't do ALL of the upgrades, but I did all the ship ones and MOST of the upgrades.

We had like.. 35 hours on our save file maybe? Which was more than we got out of ME1, but just by a few hours (and we did everything in ME1 too).
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You can show this in a spoiler or not I don't care, but you can sex up Miranda right? What does it show? I HAVE TO KNOW.
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Also, I like the fact that it lets you continue the same game if you want to complete everything before beginning your next play through, because you can then use your UPDATED save file to create your 2nd playthrough character.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:20 PM   #156
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Miranda unzips her suit and shows her bra. Lays a big one on Shep then it changes camera angles.

I finished every possible mission, scanned every planet and upgraded everything outside of one Tech Cooldown and one Hacking improvement. Had like 32 hours logged, played on Vet.

And again, there really isn't a point to replay unless it's with a new character Req. Even if you speed through everything (which you shouldn't since it's kinda the deciding factor on who dies on the last mission) it should take about 15 hours and you don't gain anything.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:28 PM   #157
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What? There is plenty of reason to replay. I went through as Paragon. Now we are playing through on Hardcore difficulty as Renegade. After that, we may or may not play through on Insanity just for the sake of it, as we like harder difficulty levels in games.
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You don't get anymore exp or anything, I reloaded with another character.
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:24 PM   #159
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You get your bonus skill. 200,000 credits, and 50,000 of every resource (including eezo). Also pretty sure I read something after creation that stated you get 25% more XP from missions.
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All true, though you get similar stuff by importing a character over (not the XP thing) from ME1. The problem is you are in all likely-hood around a 27-30lvl by beating the game completely. The level cap is 30, so you don't gain any exp afterward. Also, you lose all upgrades to weapons, so having 200,000 in credits is gone before you leave Omega. I made the mistake of farming all planets, had about 2 million in common resources, and realized it didn't carry over, so 50,000 is great for biotics, but irradium and palli-whatever are gone quickly.

The biggest thing is the cap on the level, are you really going to put in another 15 hours on a character that isn't gaining anything for ME3? I would just rather have a slew of characters that are at lvl 30 instead. Make another character and go through hard, I'm about half way through Insanity with a new character, and while its an absolute bitch (be a Vanguard or you will struggle) its plausible
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