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He's getting more heel heat than I expected.
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#43 |
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If you really wanted someone to be "built up" before becoming champion, you'd have to sit through another year of Cena/Orton/HHH main events. No thanks.
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#45 |
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That's a whole other discussion.
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No its not. Stop trying to back out when you're wrong.
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Exactly. Those I listed at least have build to them, and Christian especially can be seen as a legitimate contender.
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But they have more build than Sheamus ever did, and with DiBiase he has wins over DX. Just takes maybe a month or two and he could be a main eventer.
As for Kofi, he had the GOOD main event push with Orton and then they dropped it. He was being made and they fucked him up. This is relevant because Sheamus was pretty fucking low on the list for legitimate contendership and his build hasn't really helped him much. Mark Henry is another one who, with a month or two of build, could be a contender. |
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#49 |
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Its sad when were saying Mark Henry could be a contender.
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My point wasn't that Sheamus was the best choice, my point was that since he IS the choice, it's better than the alternative (another year of HHH/Orton/Cena)
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I disagree. At least Hunter, Orton or Cena have the title being a large focus of the show.
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Well i guess it's a matter of personal taste. I personally don't want to see Orton, HHH or Cena with the title any time soon.
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The thing is, Hunter and Cena especially are still the LARGEST part of the show, EVEN WITHOUT THE TITLE. So it makes no difference whether they hold the title or not, they're still shoved down your throat. At least with the title on them it has a real focus.
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#54 |
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You kind of twisted what I said too. I never said Sheamus was the BEST choice to be champion. I would take DiBiase, Kofi or Christian over HHH/Orton/Cena too.
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Yeah a real focus on boring matches we've seen a million times already. Again, no thanks.
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Did I ever say you thought he was the best choice? The fact that you even CONSIDER him a choice is what baffles me.
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It probably was something like this...
HHH: First person to get me a protein shake can have reign as WWE Champion for a couple months Sheamus: ![]() |
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What do you mean "consider him a choice" ? He already is the choice, and I don't mind it one bit. We've seen HHH/Orton/Cena in a million matches with every stipulation under the sun and I was sick of it. I know I'm not the only one who was sick of it, since there were threads almost every week on how boring the Raw main event scene was, and now they throw someone new in the mix (granted, not the best choice, but its something new and fresh) and you're still not happy.
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Sheamus is the lesser of four evils
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And besides, IWC isn't just one person so everyone will have their own opinions. Otherwise they would just be called sheep. |
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People bitched for months and months about how stale the main event scene was on Raw. So now, just because Sheamus is not the guy you would have picked to be champion (I wouldn't have picked him either), you'd rather it go back to the way it was?
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If the championship means something, which it did? Absolutely.
I'll take the championship's prestige over shitty rematches any day. Again, we're still getting all these guys above Sheamus ANYWAY, so there is NO difference whatsoever, other than the title not being around their waist. And at least then, again, the title had SOME meaning. |
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Remember the big pop Mark Henry got when he turned face against Randy Orton?
Really wish they had done something with that. |
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So just because HHH/Orton/Cena are still stars, they should continue to trade the belt between each other and deliver the same exact main events every month? |
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It's not that they're stars, it's that they're FAR and ABOVE the champion, and are booked as such.
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As sheamus has connections with HHH, its not quite the same, and the fact he came from nowhere. |
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Only time putting the belt on a rookie really works, is when he is a monster like lesnar, which shaemus clearly is not.
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I'm pretty sure that if they would have given the belt to DiBiase, Kofi, Christian or Mark Henry, they'd be in the exact same position as Sheamus. And i would still rather have either of them as champion over HHH/Orton/Cena
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Yeah, I agree that just throwing the belt on him wasn't the best idea, but it happened and there's nothing I can do but sit back and enjoy.
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It's just as much about "who you know" as it is about "how good you are"
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