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Old 05-09-2010, 01:47 PM   #1
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I think I am popular in the Eagles locker room then Donovan McNabb is.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:24 AM   #2
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Is Donovan still crying in the fetal position in the shower because another teammate ripped on him?
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Old 05-10-2010, 03:09 PM   #3
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He probably is.

What does Donovan McNabb want DeSean Jackson to say? Honestly?

Like C'mon you are 34 get over it dude.
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I'm pretty sure DeSean got tired to catching balls at his feet, only to look back and see his QB laughing
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Enlighten me. What team Sammy?
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:17 PM   #7
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:59 PM   #8
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:12 AM   #9
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Yeah, the Rams.
Appreciate it guys. I had no clue as I don't really follow the Rams.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:28 PM   #10
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Barron was always god awful.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:57 PM   #11
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Barron was always god awful.
He was decent, I dunno if I'd say god awful. His false starts KILLED us though. On the rare occasion that we got over the 50, he would make sure we got back to our own half of the field again.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:04 PM   #12
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Who the fuck cuts Flozell Adams, and replaces him with a less talented false start machine.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:57 PM   #13
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I don't think Alex Barron will start for the Cowboys, btw.
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I don't think Alex Barron will start for the Cowboys, btw.
He won't start, Doug Free probably will, he'll be given a chance to compete, and if he impresses, he might get it. But right now, its Free's job to lose. Barron was brought in to offer some depth to the line, with injuries to Comlumbo and such.
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:55 PM   #15
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:11 PM   #16
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:36 PM   #17
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AP re-votes on the Rookie of the Year and Cushing still keeps it.

But, he lost ALOT of votes. Only got 18 votes back from the original 39. Buffalo safety Jairus Byrd came close with 13. The rest got spread out between Clay Matthews III, Brian Orakpo, and Jim Laurinaitis.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:57 PM   #18
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Sort of surprised he managed to keep the award but it seems more like the voters didn't believe Byrd was worthy of the award even with a recount because of how the swing votes spread out over too many players.
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Old 05-13-2010, 01:10 AM   #19
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Cushing tested positive for something that has been used as a masking agent (pretty sure it's not it's only use/it's also produced naturally) so I'm guessing that had something to do with it. It's not like it's 100% proven he was taking anabolics or something. Plus he failed the test in Sept then played all season without failing anymore tests.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:31 AM   #20
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9 different NFC teams have gone to the Super Bowl in the past 9 years. I'd never really thought about that. That's pretty ridiculous.

Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Packers, Vikings, Lions, and Falcons are the teams that haven't made it. I'd say a few of those teams are realistic possibilities to make it next year and continue the streak, Vikings in particular.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:19 AM   #22
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Or the Falcons.....
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:53 AM   #23
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Fucking Andre Johnson being a greedy dick. I'm willing to bet he doesn't play this year because his 8 year, $60 million + $15 million in incentives isn't enough.
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Fucking Andre Johnson being a greedy dick. I'm willing to bet he doesn't play this year because his 8 year, $60 million + $15 million in incentives isn't enough.
Yeah, Brandon Marshall got a new deal, so now Andre wants to rip this contract up too, which is funny because his contract was reneogotiated a couple of years ago, this is a money grab, plain and simple. Not like a Chris Johnson, who had 2000 yards from scrimmage at a position where the next carry could be your last, and he's on a rookie contract making less than a million I believe.
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Exactly. In other leagues and sports I might have a different view of the situation, but this is the NFL. You're not guaranteed shit and each play could be the last. Owners and GMs have no problem cutting people, so they should have no problem when players pull this stunt.
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Exactly. In other leagues and sports I might have a different view of the situation, but this is the NFL. You're not guaranteed shit and each play could be the last. Owners and GMs have no problem cutting people, so they should have no problem when players pull this stunt.
You realize this would be his second contract he's had torn up already, and he's like already 3 years into a contract that was front end loaded, which means he's already been paid a large chunk of change, so pretty much he wants more guarenteed on another contact after getting something like the 8 year 60 million contract he already has. I could see if he was on a rookie contract still, but he got big money from the Texans a couple times already, this just being greedy.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:07 PM   #28
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Now of course they could do what Marvin Lewis successfully did with Chad Johnson two years ago and call their bluffs, but we're not talking 30 year old aging stars. We're talking two of the five best players in the NFL. You don't want to mess around with that.
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Jack Del Rio is "contemplating" starting Luke McCown at QB. WTF? If they are dumb enough to do this, then they aren't even trying to hide the fact they are moving to LA.
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He's working within the system. That's the same system that allows owners to terminate contracts whenever they want. He didn't make the system and he can't change the system. If he gets injured, he'll never see another dime. Why wouldn't he hold out for more money?
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He's working within the system. That's the same system that allows owners to terminate contracts whenever they want. He didn't make the system and he can't change the system. If he gets injured, he'll never see another dime. Why wouldn't he hold out for more money?
You realize he is guarenteed a certain amount of money on that contract right? If he played opening day got injured and never played again, he'd get what was guareenteed to him. He's got 5 years left on a contract he renegeotiated 3 years ago. I read he is guarenteed 25%, which isn't good, but when you let your uncle act as your agent, that shit happens.

I agree with the players when it comes to most labour disputes, because the players aren't being giving guarenteed money with guarenteed contracts, and in the NFL players need to make as much as fast as they can, being the sport it is. But this has nothing to do with it at all, it's about someone not wanting to pay an agent, letting his uncle negeotiate his contract, and then three years later being unhappy with it because the market has changed. Grow up, and man up, and do your fucking job.
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Why are you getting mad at someone for working within the system? I agree that the whole system needs to be changed, but that's not Johnson's responsibility. He's not going to get anything out of doing the right thing. He's looking out for himself just like everybody else. If he can get more money, why shouldn't he?
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So what happens when the Texans don't pay him? And then he sits out?

He's got money, ALOT of money, he saw Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Marshall get more money, and now he wants more. You realize his contract is shitty because he didn't have a proper agent? So who fault is that?

How is he working within the system, he signed a contract, now he should live up that obligation, instead of threatening to hold on the the team.

Teams and owners don't get to renegeoiate deals with players they feel they are over-paying, the Texans have already given him two different contracts and have done him right, he is just being greedy, and regrets signing his last contract, again who's fault is that?
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Teams and owners don't get to renegeoiate deals with players they feel they are over-paying,
Yeah they can. They can tell a player we gotta renegotiation or you're gone. Same thing Andre Johnson is saying he is gonna do, we gotta renegotiate or I'm not playing. He won't do it though

Plus guaranteed money isn't even always guaranteed. Mike Vick had to pay back some of his signing bonus didn't he? That makes no sense to me.
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Who cares about fault? This has nothing to do with fault. This is about obligation and opportunity. He has the opportunity to make more money, and the rules of the league don't oblige him to honor his contract, so why can't he make more money?
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Who cares about fault? This has nothing to do with fault. This is about obligation and opportunity. He has the opportunity to make more money, and the rules of the league don't oblige him to honor his contract, so why can't he make more money?
Well his obligation is to the team in which he is under contract and paying him. His opportunity to make more money will be when his contract is up in 5 years, or he can sit out and get paid nothing. It's ridiculous that a guy who just HAD his contract restructured, for a second time, is looking for another contract. He had his chance to make more money 3 years ago.
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BTW I don't mean for those questions to be rhetorical. I really want to know why he shouldn't get more money if he has the opportunity.
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If a guy is clearly worth the money then I say more power to them. Clearly in his defense, he is worth the money, but I just don't get why he'd want to restructure his contract so quickly after having just done so, but that's why he is the professional football player and I'm not.
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Yeah it's ridiculous. No question about it. But like every player in the NFL, he's working under a broken system that allows people to renege on their contracts. Until the league changes the rules, which it probably will when the lockout happens, then good players can take advantage of their stature and hold out for more money.

And why shouldn't they? I'm begging you or anyone to answer this question.
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Fuck, if I was a player I would want to get paid whenever it was prudent.

Teams can back out of contracts with players at essentially any time. Holding out is the player's only option to get paid. Look at someone like Chris Johnson. He is still under his rookie contract, and is going to make less than a million this year, like every year so far, to be one of the most productive RBs in the NFL. Unfortunately, since the CBA talks are ongoing, the Titans can't even pay him that much more than he is making even if they wanted to. The only way around it is for the Titans to pay a large sum in the form of a signing bonus. For the Titans, that would be foolish, because at any point on any one play Johnson could get hurt and they lose all that money for no production.

It's a shitty system. I hope they get it worked out.
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