NFL 2010 Off Season Thread - Page 36

**Emperor Smeat** · 08-26-2010, 11:05 PM

Even though its only the preseason, kind of worried how Patriots went too pass happy against the Rams instead of letting the rushing have a bit more carries. Seems BB cared more about winning this game than making sure Brady doesn't go into the 4th quarter or let the rushing game have more carries to improve.

Welker being good after earlier in the year being told he would be out for part of this season.

**McLegend** · 08-26-2010, 11:25 PM

That Brady to Moss deep pass was a thing of beauty.

**SammyG** · 08-27-2010, 07:22 PM

SAM THE FUCKING RAM

Donnie Avery out for the year

No retarded TD celebrations now.

**Requiem** · 08-28-2010, 02:17 PM

So this new rule about the refs spotting the ball and having to be in position before the snap can happen.

Thoughts? Obviously I think it is a bad thing, but what are everyone else's opinions? I feel they should just give that ref a helmet or something, or put some more athletic refs in that position. The refs should adapt to the game, not the game adapts to the refs. Obviously, Manning was testing it and pushing his luck that game, but for good reason IMO. Any other team that relies even somewhat on the no-huddle should be up in arms about this change, and people shouldn't simply agree with the change because it hurts a team that uses it against them.

Dunno, I never really saw too many refs getting injured from that position regardless, so it almost seems like nobody really thought about it very hard when they proposed the idea.

**McLegend** · 08-28-2010, 04:30 PM

Yeah I think that new rule is pretty dumb. I'm all for safety of any kind, but you can't intentionally slow down the game like that.

**Emperor Smeat** · 08-28-2010, 07:52 PM

Is the new rule just for the spotter ref since I thought a snap can't occur until he moves away from the scrimmage spot or else he would be blocking someone on the line?

**Requiem** · 08-28-2010, 10:51 PM

The new rule states that the snap can't occur until the spotting ref is in position behind the farthest offensive player. Basically forces the QB to take his eyes off the defense to see if he can snap the ball or not. Either look over his shoulder, or look to a sideline where a ref stands to give the signal.

It is all based on how fast the ref can get back there, and in the game against Green Bay, the ref took his fucking time a couple times. It isn't that he has to be out of the way.. it's that he has to be in a certain position a certain distance away now, which completely throws off the pace of the game. That 5 yard penalty for snapping half a second early can completely stop the game and throw off a team's momentum, especially in the redzone.

Within the 2 minute mark, he goes to the old spot like normal on the defensive side. At least, that's how I understand the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

**Emperor Smeat** · 08-28-2010, 11:58 PM

Didn't realize the new rule now states a specific distance and spot since now it makes things more complicated than it should be. Before the ref just had to spot the ball and then be out of the line so as to not block anyone on either side.

I didn't watch the Colts-Packers preseason game so I never saw the problem Manning was having although if the spotter ref is too slow deliberately then it is his fault based on the new rule.

**Droford** · 08-29-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball

Didn't realize the new rule now states a specific distance and spot since now it makes things more complicated than it should be. Before the ref just had to spot the ball and then be out of the line so as to not block anyone on either side.

I didn't watch the Colts-Packers preseason game so I never saw the problem Manning was having although if the spotter ref is too slow deliberately then it is his fault based on the new rule.

I found it funny that the Ravens were able to effectively run the no huddle offense last night vs the Giants with no problem. Flacco was looking pretty awesome last night.

**Gonzo** · 08-29-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford

I found it funny that the Ravens were able to effectively run the no huddle offense last night vs the Giants with no problem. Flacco was looking pretty awesome last night.

Yeah, I hope he plays like that all year long.

Joe Flacco is my fantasy QB.

RP · 08-29-2010, 12:33 PM

Everyone is quick to chalk this up to Colts whining, but it's going to be increibly funny when someone is down 21 points trying make a rally in the 4th quarter and they lose about a minute or so of time because they ref takes forever to spot the ball. Hurry up offense is null and void basically. I'm not sure what the hell is gunna happen when a team has no timeouts and is trying to get in feild goal range and then spike the ball.

Cant wait!!!!

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-29-2010, 01:32 PM

I think they will tweek the ref thing by the time the season starts. End of half/game situations are going to be ridiculous if they don't.

**Gonzo** · 08-29-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus Shuttlesworth

I think they will tweek the ref thing by the time the season starts. End of half/game situations are going to be ridiculous if they don't.

Yeah, I don't see how they can't tweak the rule. Maybe if the NFL adjusts the rule so that the ball can be snapped once the umpire has the ball down and starts backpedaling to his spot? To keep the rule as is would have to big of an impact on the integrity of the game in my opinion. If teams have to wait until the ump gets 10-15 yards behind the LOS, that's just stupid.

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-29-2010, 02:35 PM

Chris Ivory

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-29-2010, 03:17 PM

My high school is on ESPN right now. Looking good.

**Gonzo** · 08-29-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon

My high school is on ESPN right now. Looking good.

I tuned into a high school game last night on ESPN. It was two Texas teams though. Pretty good game. Had a lot of D-I guys on the field.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-29-2010, 03:24 PM

Yeah this one isn't as exciting because the team from Maryland didn't bring any fans and their bleachers are empty. And that's the side that gets on tv so it looks weak.

**CSL** · 08-29-2010, 04:41 PM

Ah ha

RP · 08-29-2010, 06:02 PM

L O L

**Evil Vito** · 08-29-2010, 08:08 PM

Can't imagine what it must be like to be in an area where high school football is actually a big deal. Connecticut certainly isn't a football hotbed. There are plenty of guys in this area that would have probably gotten offers from big-time programs if they lived in a more scouted area like New Jersey.

Although there IS this offensive lineman in the next town over (the rival team with my high school) who is entering his senior year and has already committed to Florida. Pretty ridiculous.

**Droford** · 08-29-2010, 08:11 PM

I dont like FOX's new score graphic

**CSL** · 08-29-2010, 08:51 PM

lol Kyle Orton goes low, James Harrison goes lower.

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-29-2010, 08:56 PM

**CSL** · 08-29-2010, 09:14 PM

Antonio Bryant was paid $46,511.63 per day for 172 days for doing some jogging. Not bad work if you can get it.

**Evil Vito** · 08-29-2010, 09:14 PM

lol @ Fox catering solely to HD users with the baseball and now the football. On any non-HD feed you can only see the score of the home team. Can't see the score of the road team, the time, or the down.

**RoXer** · 08-29-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

lol @ Fox catering solely to HD users with the baseball and now the football. On any non-HD feed you can only see the score of the home team. Can't see the score of the road team, the time, or the down.

Yeah they can. The new ticker shows up fine, just has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like a movie. Was just watching it on one.

**Evil Vito** · 08-29-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RoXer

Yeah they can. The new ticker shows up fine, just has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like a movie. Was just watching it on one.

Oh really? I had heard a lot of bitching about it with SD TVs. Guess you can adjust the screen or aspect ratio or something.

I have a 32 inch HDTV so it doesn't matter anyway

**Skippord** · 08-29-2010, 09:42 PM

my boy Perrish Cox doing work

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-29-2010, 10:13 PM

Gonna add these to this thread just cause some peeps don't go into casual..

Me and Rex Ryan wearing his 2000 Ravens SB ring..

Me and Ditka..

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-29-2010, 10:38 PM

HDTV are dirt f'n cheap now so I really don't feel sorry for anyone with these problems.. I'd be like someone complaining that they stopped making VHS just because they haven't bought a DVD player..

**SammyG** · 08-30-2010, 12:49 AM

Big ups, Kris P, lookin like a champ.

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-30-2010, 12:55 AM

I'll get the Mike Singletary and Bobby Bowden ones up as soon as I get back to Louisiana..

**Requiem** · 08-30-2010, 01:27 PM

I have no problems whatsoever viewing HD on my non-HD TV. Shit formats to fit my screen, with bars on top and bottom.

**Nervous Ferret** · 08-30-2010, 01:28 PM

Forgot about Requiem the Colts fan

**Innovator** · 08-30-2010, 01:41 PM

That was the QB's fault, he should've given the ball to the fullback to begin with, horrible read.

**Evil Vito** · 08-31-2010, 04:33 PM

lol. Today rosters shrunk from 75 to 53. The Giants only actually CUT 1 guy, put 3 on IR and another on PUP.

Sorgi out for the year. Looks like Rhett Bomar's gonna be the backup. Really hope they can get a veteran QB though. Bomar looked okay all things considered but if Eli went down the season would be over.

Sinorice Moss also out for the year, his Giants career is likely over. Pretty much assures Victor Cruz survives Saturday's cuts (as if they could leave him off and expect to keep him on the practice squad anyway)

**Kris P Lettus** · 08-31-2010, 04:58 PM

Singletary is a scary scary man..

**IC Champion** · 08-31-2010, 05:45 PM

NFL is going to end up scrapping the umpire spot change.

**weather vane** · 09-01-2010, 03:52 AM

If this video doesn't make you feel anything you don't love football... so unreal.

**DaveWadding** · 09-01-2010, 07:18 PM

Cardinals ink Darnell Dockett to 4 year/48 million extension with 30 mil guaranteed.

08-26-2010, 11:05 PM	#1
Emperor Smeat Former TPWW Royalty Posts: 66,669	Even though its only the preseason, kind of worried how Patriots went too pass happy against the Rams instead of letting the rushing have a bit more carries. Seems BB cared more about winning this game than making sure Brady doesn't go into the 4th quarter or let the rushing game have more carries to improve. Welker being good after earlier in the year being told he would be out for part of this season.

08-26-2010, 11:25 PM	#2
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,611	That Brady to Moss deep pass was a thing of beauty.

08-27-2010, 07:22 PM	#3
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	SAM THE FUCKING RAM Donnie Avery out for the year No retarded TD celebrations now.

08-28-2010, 02:17 PM	#4
Requiem Posts: 19,299	So this new rule about the refs spotting the ball and having to be in position before the snap can happen. Thoughts? Obviously I think it is a bad thing, but what are everyone else's opinions? I feel they should just give that ref a helmet or something, or put some more athletic refs in that position. The refs should adapt to the game, not the game adapts to the refs. Obviously, Manning was testing it and pushing his luck that game, but for good reason IMO. Any other team that relies even somewhat on the no-huddle should be up in arms about this change, and people shouldn't simply agree with the change because it hurts a team that uses it against them. Dunno, I never really saw too many refs getting injured from that position regardless, so it almost seems like nobody really thought about it very hard when they proposed the idea.

08-28-2010, 04:30 PM	#5
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,611	Yeah I think that new rule is pretty dumb. I'm all for safety of any kind, but you can't intentionally slow down the game like that.

08-28-2010, 07:52 PM	#6
Emperor Smeat Former TPWW Royalty Posts: 66,669	Is the new rule just for the spotter ref since I thought a snap can't occur until he moves away from the scrimmage spot or else he would be blocking someone on the line?

08-28-2010, 10:51 PM	#7
Requiem Posts: 19,299	The new rule states that the snap can't occur until the spotting ref is in position behind the farthest offensive player. Basically forces the QB to take his eyes off the defense to see if he can snap the ball or not. Either look over his shoulder, or look to a sideline where a ref stands to give the signal. It is all based on how fast the ref can get back there, and in the game against Green Bay, the ref took his fucking time a couple times. It isn't that he has to be out of the way.. it's that he has to be in a certain position a certain distance away now, which completely throws off the pace of the game. That 5 yard penalty for snapping half a second early can completely stop the game and throw off a team's momentum, especially in the redzone. Within the 2 minute mark, he goes to the old spot like normal on the defensive side. At least, that's how I understand the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

08-28-2010, 11:58 PM	#8
Emperor Smeat Former TPWW Royalty Posts: 66,669	Didn't realize the new rule now states a specific distance and spot since now it makes things more complicated than it should be. Before the ref just had to spot the ball and then be out of the line so as to not block anyone on either side. I didn't watch the Colts-Packers preseason game so I never saw the problem Manning was having although if the spotter ref is too slow deliberately then it is his fault based on the new rule.

08-29-2010, 12:33 PM	#11
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,992	Everyone is quick to chalk this up to Colts whining, but it's going to be increibly funny when someone is down 21 points trying make a rally in the 4th quarter and they lose about a minute or so of time because they ref takes forever to spot the ball. Hurry up offense is null and void basically. I'm not sure what the hell is gunna happen when a team has no timeouts and is trying to get in feild goal range and then spike the ball. Cant wait!!!!

08-29-2010, 01:32 PM	#12
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I think they will tweek the ref thing by the time the season starts. End of half/game situations are going to be ridiculous if they don't.

08-29-2010, 02:35 PM	#14
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Chris Ivory

08-29-2010, 03:17 PM	#15
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	My high school is on ESPN right now. Looking good.

08-29-2010, 03:24 PM	#17
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	Yeah this one isn't as exciting because the team from Maryland didn't bring any fans and their bleachers are empty. And that's the side that gets on tv so it looks weak.

08-29-2010, 04:41 PM	#18
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	Ah ha

08-29-2010, 06:02 PM	#19
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,992	L O L

08-29-2010, 08:08 PM	#20
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,371	Can't imagine what it must be like to be in an area where high school football is actually a big deal. Connecticut certainly isn't a football hotbed. There are plenty of guys in this area that would have probably gotten offers from big-time programs if they lived in a more scouted area like New Jersey. Although there IS this offensive lineman in the next town over (the rival team with my high school) who is entering his senior year and has already committed to Florida. Pretty ridiculous.

08-29-2010, 08:11 PM	#21
Droford Posts: 52,478	I dont like FOX's new score graphic

08-29-2010, 08:51 PM	#22
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	lol Kyle Orton goes low, James Harrison goes lower.

08-29-2010, 08:56 PM	#23
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741

08-29-2010, 09:14 PM	#24
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	Antonio Bryant was paid $46,511.63 per day for 172 days for doing some jogging. Not bad work if you can get it.

08-29-2010, 09:42 PM	#28
Skippord I'm Mr. White Christmas Posts: 44,526	my boy Perrish Cox doing work

08-29-2010, 10:13 PM	#29
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Gonna add these to this thread just cause some peeps don't go into casual.. Me and Rex Ryan wearing his 2000 Ravens SB ring.. Me and Ditka..

08-29-2010, 10:38 PM	#30
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	HDTV are dirt f'n cheap now so I really don't feel sorry for anyone with these problems.. I'd be like someone complaining that they stopped making VHS just because they haven't bought a DVD player..

08-30-2010, 12:49 AM	#31
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Big ups, Kris P, lookin like a champ.

08-30-2010, 12:55 AM	#32
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	I'll get the Mike Singletary and Bobby Bowden ones up as soon as I get back to Louisiana..

08-30-2010, 01:27 PM	#33
Requiem Posts: 19,299	I have no problems whatsoever viewing HD on my non-HD TV. Shit formats to fit my screen, with bars on top and bottom.

08-30-2010, 01:28 PM	#34
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	Forgot about Requiem the Colts fan

08-30-2010, 01:41 PM	#35
Innovator Inno Knows. Posts: 43,710	That was the QB's fault, he should've given the ball to the fullback to begin with, horrible read.

08-31-2010, 04:33 PM	#36
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,371	lol. Today rosters shrunk from 75 to 53. The Giants only actually CUT 1 guy, put 3 on IR and another on PUP. Sorgi out for the year. Looks like Rhett Bomar's gonna be the backup. Really hope they can get a veteran QB though. Bomar looked okay all things considered but if Eli went down the season would be over. Sinorice Moss also out for the year, his Giants career is likely over. Pretty much assures Victor Cruz survives Saturday's cuts (as if they could leave him off and expect to keep him on the practice squad anyway)

08-31-2010, 04:58 PM	#37
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Singletary is a scary scary man..

08-31-2010, 05:45 PM	#38
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	NFL is going to end up scrapping the umpire spot change.