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Old 02-10-2010, 02:13 AM   #1241
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what's wrong with Granderson the batter
Well Granderson the batter does seem to get K'd quite a bit
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:49 AM   #1242
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Looks like the Nats are going to sign Chien Ming Wang.

Jesus. Omar was already probably getting canned if his plan to "stick to his guns" didn't work out...but now it might even come in the form of a last place finish.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:05 PM   #1243
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And now Wang has another suitor and will decide within the next couple weeks. Really hate all the back-and-forth bullshit rumors that the offseason brings. 8 more days!
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Looks like the Nats are going to sign Chien Ming Wang.

Jesus. Omar was already probably getting canned if his plan to "stick to his guns" didn't work out...but now it might even come in the form of a last place finish.
The Jason Bay signing was good. But, that's about the only thing Mets have right now. They might end up in 4th place if they play their cards right
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The Jason Bay signing was good. But, that's about the only thing Mets have right now. They might end up in 4th place if they play their cards right
Nah, "if they play their cards right" implies everybody will play well. If everybody played well, they would definitely be in the playoff hunt. They have enough talent, most guys on the team have been successful at some point. But, there are just WAY too many if's to enter 2010 with anything more than extremely cautious, subdued optimism.

IF Mike Pelfrey has a bounce-back year, IF John Maine can stay healthy, IF Oliver Perez has his head screwed on right, IF the new bullpen guys pan out, IF the lineup stays healthy, IF Beltran returns sooner rather than later, etc. Mets are a case of guys that HAVE succeeded, so you know they are capable...but the likelihood of it all happening in one season? Not very good. Every team has some question marks...but not this many. If the Mets were to somehow make the playoffs in 2010, Jerry is guaranteed Manager of the Year.

Kinda refreshing in a way though, I can really sit back and enjoy the games a bit more this year. If they suck I won't be as heated as I've been in past years, because my expectations are lower.
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Nah, "if they play their cards right" implies everybody will play well. If everybody played well, they would definitely be in the playoff hunt. They have enough talent, most guys on the team have been successful at some point. But, there are just WAY too many if's to enter 2010 with anything more than extremely cautious, subdued optimism.

IF Mike Pelfrey has a bounce-back year, IF John Maine can stay healthy, IF Oliver Perez has his head screwed on right, IF the new bullpen guys pan out, IF the lineup stays healthy, IF Beltran returns sooner rather than later, etc. Mets are a case of guys that HAVE succeeded, so you know they are capable...but the likelihood of it all happening in one season? Not very good. Every team has some question marks...but not this many. If the Mets were to somehow make the playoffs in 2010, Jerry is guaranteed Manager of the Year.

Kinda refreshing in a way though, I can really sit back and enjoy the games a bit more this year. If they suck I won't be as heated as I've been in past years, because my expectations are lower.

That's a really great way of thinking man.
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Yeah, for me...this year is really gonna be about seeing if Wright's power loss in 2009 was just an aberration, seeing Jose Reyes back full speed, seeing another dominant year from Johan, seeing how Murph plays knowing Ike Davis is looming on the horizon, etc. I'm not throwing in the towel on the year or anything, but I feel it'll be more about player development than record.
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Chien Ming Wang, keep this fucker away from the Nats
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:44 PM   #1249
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For right now it looks like Damon will be a Brave.
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lol think I called Damon going to the Braves back in like November/December. I figured nobody would give into his demands so he'd settle for a 1-year deal with the team that has a ST complex closest to him.
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lol think I called Damon going to the Braves back in like November/December. I figured nobody would give into his demands so he'd settle for a 1-year deal with the team that has a ST complex closest to him.

I wonder though what will they do with Nate and Melky. What they could do is put Melky or Nate on the Bench.
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Probably Melky even though they traded Vasquez away for him.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:17 PM   #1253
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Probably Melky even though they traded Vasquez away for him.
Maybe! I could see it happening with Nate but, I really don't know how good Nate is. I think it might be an outfield of Damon, Melky, and whoever is in Right.
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I feel kinda bad for him he wasn't the same since that game against Houston and now he's probably gonna have to bat all the time.
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Wow, major swerve. Red Sox get Hernandez from Seattle.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...x_claim_h.html
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You made me think that the Sox got FELIX Hernandez even though he just signed an extension. Now I'm disappointed.
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You made me think that the Sox got FELIX Hernandez even though he just signed an extension. Now I'm disappointed.
That would almost be unfair to everyone else. I mean I could never imagine a rotation of

King Felix

Josh Beckett

John Lackey

Jon Lester

Clay Bucholz

That is quite possibly the best 5 man rotation ever. But you would have to give up a shit load for him.
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Yeah Buchholz, Ellsbury, Casey Kelly, and Ryan Westmoreland would probably be gone. Still would be a ridiculous rotation though.
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Yeah Buchholz, Ellsbury, Casey Kelly, and Ryan Westmoreland would probably be gone. Still would be a ridiculous rotation though.
I wouldn't be surprised if that one DH was gone too I forget his name. Oh, yeah now I remember who I mean Lars Anderson. But, yeah you get a rotation like that I would seriously give Everything I fucking own just to have someone in the MLB transfer the Red Sox to the National League East and move a NL East team to American just so I wouldn't have to worry about facing a sick rotation like that.
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That was kind of the point.

Amazed at how Gaby Hernandez hasn't panned out at all. He's still really young, but I remember him being well touted and I was a bit upset when the Mets traded him to the Marlins for Paul Lo Duca way back in December 2005.
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If the Mets want Wang they can fucking have him. What a train wreck.
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That would almost be unfair to everyone else. I mean I could never imagine a rotation of

King Felix

Josh Beckett

John Lackey

Jon Lester

Clay Bucholz

That is quite possibly the best 5 man rotation ever. But you would have to give up a shit load for him.
Sickest part about that dream rotation would be how young 3 of those pitchers are while Lackey and Beckett are still dominate (well in non-fat Beckett years) enough to provide tips and training experience to Bucholz or any other quality youth pitcher from Pawtucket. That is easily worth 5 years of dominant pitching and enough time to rebuild the defense/batting using younger players or quality non-expensive players.
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The Braves outfield will be an interesting mess, but if they get Damon, I won't mind. He will be "fast", at least in comparison to the rest of the team.
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Maybe! I could see it happening with Nate but, I really don't know how good Nate is. I think it might be an outfield of Damon, Melky, and whoever is in Right.
The Braves also have a top outfield prospect they believe will make the team. Jason Heyward.
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Johnny Damon bidding has heated up within the last few hours.

Braves offered 1-year, $4 mil.

Tigers topped that with $4.5 mil. But Tigers owner Mike Ilitch has given the green light to a 2-year, $14 mil. offer.

White Sox are involved, but have been quiet.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:04 PM   #1269
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Johnny Damon bidding has heated up within the last few hours.

Braves offered 1-year, $4 mil.

Tigers topped that with $4.5 mil. But Tigers owner Mike Ilitch has given the green light to a 2-year, $14 mil. offer.

White Sox are involved, but have been quiet.
Did the Tigers just out-bid themselves by $5 million with the 2-year deal?

Damon would obviously take the 2 year deal than the single year deal even if that single year deal was highest offered.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:10 AM   #1270
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Wow, major swerve. Red Sox get Hernandez from Seattle.

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Old 02-12-2010, 05:18 AM   #1271
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Nomar is coming back to Boston
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:28 AM   #1272
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:46 PM   #1273
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Giants sign Lincecum, two years, $23 million
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:50 PM   #1274
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Good deal for both sides.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:07 PM   #1275
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Two things....

Yes the Tigers outbid themselves to get Damon, if he signs with us. My friends and I do not understand the 2 year part of the deal or the 7 million a season. They could have gotten him for 2 years 10 million total.

Also, Granderson the batter was bad because of his strikeouts and his inability to hit lefties
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:46 PM   #1276
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Frank Thomas is officially retiring.

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Old 02-12-2010, 04:55 PM   #1277
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Damon was initially after what? 13mil. per season??
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:04 PM   #1278
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I know the economy is shitty and all, but Lincecum is worth more than 11.5 mil a season.

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Old 02-12-2010, 06:30 PM   #1279
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It was either pay him a boatload of cash out of arb. or let him walk out the door. This 2-year deal really just bought the Giants another couple years to re-sign him to a bigger deal.
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:37 PM   #1280
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I know the economy is shitty and all, but Lincecum is worth more than 11.5 mil a season.

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He only signed that to get him throuhg arbitration. He could risk only getting 8 a year for the next 2, or lock up 23 (A Raise from 650k) and hit the market in 2 years. It is a standard move. Thats more than anyone ever got from arbitration so he wins./
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