Randy Orton = Stone Cold (Potentially)

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by HBPunk The Rock, Carlito, John Cena, Mr. Kennedy etc all got over as a heel so well that they started drawing face chants from crowds in certain arenas, then they would turn face, change character and proceed to suck the life out of the charcter they had just gotten over with. (Im including the rock, although he was insanely popular, he was heroic as a heel but as a face sometimes sucked up so much to 'the people' that he would often draw heel heet, he was quite repetitive with his backstage schtick too) Aside from adding a few catchphrases, Stone Cold Steve Austin was left untouched as he turned heel to face in 1997, he is the only guy i can think of that was allowed to do that. End result - Steve Austin becomes the most popular wrestler in the world. Now, for the past few months Randy Orton has been playing the tweener role like Austin did and Orton is getting extremely popular with every passing week. He could be referred to as a loner cos his own stable turned on him again, he would beat heels and faces with no preferences like Austin and after WM26, if Vince is getting major heel heat maybe Vince/Orton could play out like Vince/Austin with Orton chasing the belt and Vince keeping Batista as his handpicked champion. Add Drew McIntyre (post draft) and Cody/Ted to Vince's group and we could see a Corporation angle again even. So, is it only a matter of time until Randy starts sucking up to the people or will the WWE finally see sense and push Orton like they did with SCSA?

Few things:

1) Good post

2) Completely agree with the 'act badass/tweener' so that the fans love you thought process (this worked for both SCSA and The Rock).

3) IF the WWE wanted Orton to have a chance at reaching SCSA levels, then they would have to amplify him ten-fold (i.e. have Orton rebel against Management or something by having Orton interefere in random matches while RKO'ing the hell out of everyone, etc.).

If John Cena is the 'hero' amongst children, make Orton the 'anti-hero'.

[HBPunk]

Originally Posted by Heyman Few things: 1) Good post 2) Completely agree with the 'act badass/tweener' so that the fans love you thought process (this worked for both SCSA and The Rock). 3) IF the WWE wanted Orton to have a chance at reaching SCSA levels, then they would have to amplify him ten-fold (i.e. have Orton rebel against Management or something by having Orton interefere in random matches while RKO'ing the hell out of everyone, etc.). If John Cena is the 'hero' amongst children, make Orton the 'anti-hero'.

If Orton went against Vince and his boy Batista, you could have Vince screwing Randy out of a title shot so Orton runs in during the title match, RKO's both men, grabs a chair and tells Vince he's going nowhere til he gets what he wants. Even better if he was sitting on the chair pinned over Batista's neck like HHH did to taker in '01 when he said ''You're the guy who makes people famous huh?''
Orton would be massive and the turn frees up the inevitable Cena heel turn

[jskinnyg]

Originally Posted by HBPunk If Orton went against Vince and his boy Batista, you could have Vince screwing Randy out of a title shot so Orton runs in during the title match, RKO's both men, grabs a chair and tells Vince he's going nowhere til he gets what he wants. Even better if he was sitting on the chair pinned over Batista's neck like HHH did to taker in '01 when he said ''You're the guy who makes people famous huh?'' Orton would be massive and the turn frees up the inevitable Cena heel turn

Ooooh... I like that shit... Orton is a fucking badass and has played of the best heels since HHH, Edge & the man they call champ, Jericho...

[GD]

Originally Posted by HBPunk If Orton went against Vince and his boy Batista, you could have Vince screwing Randy out of a title shot so Orton runs in during the title match, RKO's both men, grabs a chair and tells Vince he's going nowhere til he gets what he wants. Even better if he was sitting on the chair pinned over Batista's neck like HHH did to taker in '01 when he said ''You're the guy who makes people famous huh?'' Orton would be massive and the turn frees up the inevitable Cena heel turn

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by HBPunk If Orton went against Vince and his boy Batista, you could have Vince screwing Randy out of a title shot so Orton runs in during the title match, RKO's both men, grabs a chair and tells Vince he's going nowhere til he gets what he wants. Even better if he was sitting on the chair pinned over Batista's neck like HHH did to taker in '01 when he said ''You're the guy who makes people famous huh?'' Orton would be massive and the turn frees up the inevitable Cena heel turn

Not a bad scenario.

One thing I REALLY wished the WWE would have attempted at last year's Wrestlemania, was attempt a heel/face switch between Orton and Cena (a la Austin-Bret WM-13). Before the February PPV last year, Orton was starting to get great face pops from the crowd (due to the awesomeness of his character) while Cena was getting booed.

Unfortunately, the WWE went in a different direction with Orton, while Cena started feuding with Edge. Orton was made to look like a complete pussy against HHH, and ended up jobbing to him at Mania (atleast a Stephanie heel turn and making out with Orton could have been interesting).

[Dark One]

Originally Posted by Heyman Few things: 3) IF the WWE wanted Orton to have a chance at reaching SCSA levels, then they would have to amplify him ten-fold (i.e. have Orton rebel against Management or something by having Orton interefere in random matches while RKO'ing the hell out of everyone, etc.).

It worked for Kanyon.