IYO: Order of the matches at WRESTLEMANIA XVI *FINAL MANIA CARD UPDATED*

[Jeritron]

I don't get this "but Edge won the Rumble" nonsense. How does that matter? Wrestling isn't real. Cena/Batista is the bigger match because they're the bigger stars/draws. It's really as simple as that. I think people who place such importance on who won the Rumble are marks for the gimmick, rather than realizing that it's just a gimmick to fuel one of the storylines every year. You can view things from the standpoint of kayfabe, but the reality is that there is a bigger picture.

Also, the Rumble winner has only closed the show once in the past 4 manias anyways.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Jeritron I don't get this "but Edge won the Rumble" nonsense. How does that matter? Wrestling isn't real. Cena/Batista is the bigger match because they're the bigger stars/draws. It's really as simple as that. I think people who place such importance on who won the Rumble are marks for the gimmick, rather than realizing that it's just a gimmick to fuel one of the storylines every year. You can view things from the standpoint of kayfabe, but the reality is that there is a bigger picture. Also, the Rumble winner has only closed the show once in the past 4 manias anyways.

You're correct, but I think it sort of waters down the Rumble if the winner doesn't challenge last. And truthfully, I believe that the Rumble Winner should have challenged last in every scenario where the match was bumped.

* The first instance was in 2006, with Rey Mysterio winning. Not only do I think that Rey Mysterio should have headlined, but I think Orton should have been dropped from the match and we should have gotten Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Title. John Cena vs. Triple H could have been a tremendous secondary main event.

* 2007 saw The Undertaker and Batista fight in a match than many felt should have closed the show. Cena and HBK's "story" heading into WrestleMania 23 felt so forced to me. I can't even remember why they were fighting at Mania. Again, Cena retaining against a big face could have built him up lower on the card while two big men clashed in the main event.

* 2008 saw the Rumble title shot wasted at No Way Out, with Cena challenging Orton. I don't know what I would have done, but I completely expected the Triple Threat to close the show while Edge and The Undertaker worked lower on the card. I was surprised when Edge/Taker closed. Michael Cole and Jonathan Coachman closing the PPV on commentary felt weird to me.

* 2009 saw things return to normal -- almost. A heel winning the Royal Rumble was unusual, but Triple H vs. Randy Orton felt like it was destined to close.

To me, while there is the marketing case for Cena vs. Batista, I think this match is going to be huge wherever it is. Edge/Jericho opens the show and it feels paper-thin to me. Let the Canadians close the PPV, so that they feel like legitimate stars.

I'm actually curious to see how this PPV does in Canada, actually. Chris Jericho and Edge in a World Title match; Bret Hart beating up Vince McMahon and Christian being the favourite to win Money in the Bank (again...don't be shocked if he loses)...all this PPV needs is Natalya challenging for the Women's Title and Maryse defending the Divas Title against Trish Stratus.

[Mr Amazing]

Originally Posted by Noid You're correct, but I think it sort of waters down the Rumble if the winner doesn't challenge last. And truthfully, I believe that the Rumble Winner should have challenged last in every scenario where the match was bumped. * The first instance was in 2006, with Rey Mysterio winning. Not only do I think that Rey Mysterio should have headlined, but I think Orton should have been dropped from the match and we should have gotten Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Title. John Cena vs. Triple H could have been a tremendous secondary main event. * 2007 saw The Undertaker and Batista fight in a match than many felt should have closed the show. Cena and HBK's "story" heading into WrestleMania 23 felt so forced to me. I can't even remember why they were fighting at Mania. Again, Cena retaining against a big face could have built him up lower on the card while two big men clashed in the main event. * 2008 saw the Rumble title shot wasted at No Way Out, with Cena challenging Orton. I don't know what I would have done, but I completely expected the Triple Threat to close the show while Edge and The Undertaker worked lower on the card. I was surprised when Edge/Taker closed. Michael Cole and Jonathan Coachman closing the PPV on commentary felt weird to me. * 2009 saw things return to normal -- almost. A heel winning the Royal Rumble was unusual, but Triple H vs. Randy Orton felt like it was destined to close. To me, while there is the marketing case for Cena vs. Batista, I think this match is going to be huge wherever it is. Edge/Jericho opens the show and it feels paper-thin to me. Let the Canadians close the PPV, so that they feel like legitimate stars. I'm actually curious to see how this PPV does in Canada, actually. Chris Jericho and Edge in a World Title match; Bret Hart beating up Vince McMahon and Christian being the favourite to win Money in the Bank (again...don't be shocked if he loses)...all this PPV needs is Natalya challenging for the Women's Title and Maryse defending the Divas Title against Trish Stratus.

if wrestlmania was in Canada icould see maryse winning the divas title natalya winning the womens title Christian winning money in the bankand cashing it in for the wwe title then tyson kidd and david hart smith winning tag titles edge winning whc hart winning his match and jericho breaking kayfabe and all celebrating in the ring simular to Benoit and guerrero did at wrestlmania 20

I am canadian so i wouldn't mind seeing this at any wrestlmania especially if it was in Canada