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Old 06-17-2010, 02:50 PM   #1
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Mario Kart in 3D would be crazy.
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:27 PM   #2
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Mario Kart in 3D would be crazy.
Have they done a Smash Bros. for a DS yet?
That would be wild in 3D.

All the classic nintendo titles would be, really. They're all very energetic, fun and vibrant. It's the type of material that lends itself to the gimmick, if done well, which it sounds like will be the case.
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While Nintendo hasn't uttered a word on the subject yet, Japanese financial paper Nikkei reports (via Andriasang) that the 3DS will allow you to install your software to the handheld's internal memory.

For those who aren't familiar with how this works, basically, you select your installed games from the main menu and can then play without needing the original cartridges. Now when I say "your installed games," I mean the 3DS games you purchased and didn't download from the Internet. Right.

We don't know how much internal memory the device will have, but this is still incredible news regardless.

3DS Features Software Install [Andriasang]

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If that's true, that is brilliant for a handheld.
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Nintendo is 3 years behind on mobile glassless 3d gaming

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The Samsung B710 phone looks like a typical smart phone, but something unexpected happens when the screen is moved from a vertical to a horizontal orientation: the image jumps from 2-D to 3-D. The technology that produces this perception of depth is the work of Julien Flack, CTO of Dynamic Digital Depth, who has spent more than a decade perfecting software that can convert 2-D content to 3-D in real time. It could help solve the biggest problem with 3-D: the need for special glasses that deliver a separate image to each eye.
Flack's software synthesizes 3-D scenes from existing 2-D video by estimating the depth of objects using various cues; a band of sky at the top of a frame probably belongs in the far background, for example. It then creates pairs of slightly different images that the viewer's brain combines to produce the sensation of depth.
The technology can be used with the much-hyped 3-D televisions announced in January (which require glasses), but its biggest impact will be as a way to create content for mobile devices with auto*stereoscopic 3-D displays, which work by directing light to deliver different versions of an image directly to each of a viewer's eyes. The effect works best over a narrow range of viewing angles, so it is ill suited to television or cinema screens. But phones are generally used by one person at a time and are easily held at the optimum angle. That's why mobile multimedia devices are likely to win the race to bring 3-D into the mainstream.
Powered by Flack's software, Dynamic Digital Depth has become an early leader in mobile 3-D. The software was built into the B710, which Samsung released in South Korea in 2007, and Samsung has licensed 3-D content generated by Dynamic Digital Depth for its latest 3-D phone, the W960, released in March. Research firm DisplaySearch recently predicted that by 2018 there will be 71 million such devices worldwide.
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That's perception of depth, not the projected 3D illusion.

The DSi can do perception of depth.

But we all know that they're not the first anyway, they're licensing the tchnology from Sharp for a start.
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I will seriously have to fight the urge to make sweet love to mine when I get it.
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I will seriously have to fight the urge to make sweet love to mine when I get it.
I'm just concerned spunk stains might ruin the 3D effect
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #10
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I'm not going through this whole thread to check, but can this play DS and Gameboy advance games?
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:01 PM   #11
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Ds games but I don't think GBA games.
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I'll take that, I guess. Can just emulate GBA games, I suppose. Never got a DS, but I'll probably pick this up, since it is BC.
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I'm reckoning there will be a Virtual Console on this if there's enough storage to install 3DS games. If that happens, expect GBA games on that.
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If there's a VC on this, then GBA games will be the least of my concerns.
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I'm gonna pick up a DS Lite when this shit drops, because they will be dirt cheap and I can continue to enjoy my GBA titles on the move.
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I am more excited for the 3DS than any other gaming console ever. Do you know how I know this? Because I care about what the god damn cartridge is going to look like. Really, why should I give two sh*ts? I shouldn't, but I do, and for some strange reason I think some other people do as well.

We already knew that the 3DS would be able to play the DS's games and thus use its cartridges so the differences couldn't be too major, but there are some. It has a tab on it for starters. What could that tab do? It's probably where they keep the secret 3D magic. If only we could harness the power of that tab we'd be in business, people! Sadly, the magic tab is a secret that Nintendo will keep to itself, I'm sure.

A not so noticeable change in the cartridge is the fact that the size has been bumped up to 2GB. That's going to allow for a lot prettier and bigger games, as I think we've already seen demonstrated. Then again, with all the talk on downloads and non-stop connectivity who knows if we're even going to be using cartridges? Oh, wait. They already tried that.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:31 AM   #18
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Interesting... I'm watching the Bonus Round on gametrailers and Pachter says he's talked to Reggie about the 3DS and he said it "costs a lot more than the DSi to produce" and "We're not intending to start losing money on the hardware".

Pachter's shit at predictions, but he's no liar. $250 handheld?

I did end up paying £300 for the DS... Damn imports.
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300 pounds? God damn. Did you pay $16000 for a PS3 as well?
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I got 2 paydays at the same time from an old job and a new job. It was in a shop 4 months before we got the console. Total impulse buy.

It probably does work out at $16000 CAD
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I was referring to those fucktards who bought PS3s off eBay at launch.
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Expect a 3D PSP to arrive in the future and join the ranks of DualShock Controllers and PlayStation Move. Y'know, those other gimmicks that Sony said were crap before jumping on the bandwagon.
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I bet it will be touch-screen too. iPhone style, not DS though.
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PSP has a few quality gems. Other than that, it is a rather shit system.
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Earlier today, Japanese technology firm Digital Media Professionals sent out a press release confirming that they are the providers of the graphics chip for the new Nintendo 3DS.

This chip is called the PICA200, an older GPU (it's from 2006!) that DMP says provides "high quality graphics" with "low power consumption". Handy for a handheld, that! Because it's older, it's also presumably cheaper than something more cutting edge, and we all know Nintendo likes to keep production costs at a minimum (as the company sells hardware for a profit).

To give you a rough idea of the PICA200's power, here's an old tech demo dating back to the GPU's release. Being a tech demo, you have to take it with a grain of salt, but even four years old and covered in salt it looks a whole lot better than a DS.
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Lookin' good. Doesn't look too far off early 360 graphics, really.
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So the 3DS does a lot of stuff. It looks like it could also do videochat...in 3D.

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The 3DS can play 3DS games, DS games, it can play 3D movies. What else can it do? How about video chat. In 3D.

In an interview with Forbes magazine, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said "Technologically speaking, a variety of different things are possible with the 3DS, for example, 3-D video chat."

Interesting. It'd make for a nice tech demo, but since this is Nintendo (and also because 3D cameras aren't exactly common), it's likely you'd only be able to use it to communicate with other 3DS owners, reducing its usefulness.

Besides, they say the camera adds ten pounds in two dimensions. The third dimension may not be worth the self-loathing.
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The 3DS can do a lot, it seems. 3D, backwards compatability, online, movies, touch screen, that gyro movement stuff and accelerometer. What else could it do?
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According to "developers working on the system", games running on the Nintendo 3DS can look (and perform) even better than those we've seen on one condition: they lose the 3D.

That's what a report on IGN says, as developers "could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60".

To be honest, I hadn't even considered that. But they're right: it takes processing power to render the images in 3D, since they're essentially creating the same image twice (one for each eye), so freeing that up should indeed result in better-looking games with more stuff on-screen.

Whether a developer or publisher would risk bypassing the system's main selling point is up for debate, but surely somebody is willing to take a chance considering the potential benefits. I know I'd trade 3D in a lot of games for smoother performance and better graphics.
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So if a dev doesn't bother with 3D, we'll get a bigger and/or prettier game. Sounds like good trade off to me.
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I bet Nintendo, at least for a while while the system is gaining ground, mandates 3D in it's games though.
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I bet Nintendo, at least for a while while the system is gaining ground, mandates 3D in it's games though.
I think the opposite is going to occur since developers know they need to take advantage of the "3D" to out-produce a Nintendo-caliber game since everyone knows Nintendo will use the "3D" in their launch window games at least.

Traditionally Nintendo handhelds are more forgiving in sales to non-Nintendo games than Nintendo consoles so it won't take long to keep developers on the 3DS and not jump away like they did with the PSP.
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Yeah I figured that was possible but it seemed to obvious to note, but you raise a good point; perhaps developers will make games with no 3D just to get more power and frame rate.

PSP's looking more and more like a piece of shit.
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Yeah I figured that was possible but it seemed to obvious to note, but you raise a good point; perhaps developers will make games with no 3D just to get more power and frame rate.

PSP's looking more and more like a piece of shit.
PSP is a piece of shit. The only thing I like about it is that there are 20 or so odd diamonds in an ocean of crap. Worth picking it (and the games obv) up on the cheap for that.
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Give it a year and a half after launch. Non-3D titles from the bigger/well known developers will come out (basically after the 3D loses its newness) and people will rejoice.

I'm sure there will be a bunch of budget titles and stuff from lesser devs which won't bother with 3D from the outset, but will be largely ignored.
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In a recent interview with CVG, Ian Curran, THQ's executive VP of global publishing, touted his favorite new feature the 3DS will bring to the portable market. No, not its titular three-dimensional display tech. No, not all of those rebooted classic franchises. "What excites me even more," Curran explained, "is that there's technology built in that device to really combat piracy."

Curran added, "they combated the piracy on DSi, which they don't believe is cracked yet - but they know they've been hurt across the world and they believe the 3DS has got technology that can stop that." That's a nice sentiment, but considering how resourceful the modding community has proven itself over the years, we're pretty sure the only thing that could stop them from pirating 3DS games is some sort of self-destruct mechanism. We sincerely doubt Nintendo could get something like that past the FCC.
Shall we break it to Nintendo that the DSi has been cracked?

The only reason the PS3 isn't cracked is due to a powerful hypervisor system. There is no way Nintendo has one on a handheld. They're pretty big and need a lot of power due to the CPU constantly having to tell the hypervisor that it's fine to run that chunk of code.
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Shall we break it to Nintendo that the DSi has been cracked?

The only reason the PS3 isn't cracked is due to a powerful hypervisor system. There is no way Nintendo has one on a handheld. They're pretty big and need a lot of power due to the CPU constantly having to tell the hypervisor that it's fine to run that chunk of code.
Bluray discs themselves play a huge part since its still expensive compared to CDs and DVDs to buy discs needed to burn the games.

I would assume the 3D tech might be the hardest part to "crack" on the 3DS while games that don't use it would be similar to a DS crack.
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Shall we break it to Nintendo that the DSi has been cracked?

The only reason the PS3 isn't cracked is due to a powerful hypervisor system. There is no way Nintendo has one on a handheld. They're pretty big and need a lot of power due to the CPU constantly having to tell the hypervisor that it's fine to run that chunk of code.
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And thinking about it, the CPS2 Capcom arcade boards did have a suicide function of you tried fiddling with it, so it's not amazingly out there.
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How much is the Nintendo 3DS? I dunno! Nintendo does, let's hear what it has to say.

Website Electricpig asked Nintendo's marketing manager James Honeywell about the Nintendo 3DS pricing to which Honeywell replied:

"Price, we haven't made any kind of announcement at the moment, but for everyone who already knows, you know, the Nintendo DSi is available for around £129.99. The Nintendo DSi XL, with the larger screens, is around £159.99. So obviously, it's going to fit, kind of, somewhere within that kind of architecture."

Hrm. Hrm. Hrm. Pricing architecture sounds fancy! Obviously, these are UK prices so feel free to convert for guestimations for your region.
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Well, we find out release dates and pricing for "major regions" on September 25th officially.
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