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Old 03-29-2010, 12:07 AM   #1
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Undertaker's Streak Appreciation Thread
Well, with WrestleMania in the books I figured we could all recount our favorite match in the 18-match series.

HBK/Taker I is still my top.

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Old 03-29-2010, 12:11 AM   #2
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Yeah, HBK/Taker at WM 25 is still the best. The rematch tonight is easily #2 and #3 would be vs HHH at WM 17.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:12 AM   #3
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Preferred HBK/Taker 2 over the first.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:13 AM   #4
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Bossman/Taker.

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Old 03-29-2010, 12:16 AM   #5
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HBK/Taker I... HBK/Taker II... and Taker/Diesel

Taker/Diesel is one of the most under-appreciated matches ever.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:20 AM   #6
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i think this match was pretty equal to the last, it only gets my #1 because of the stipulations behind it
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Taker/HBK 1 was my favorite.

I really enjoyed Orton/Taker. I thought that was a great match.

Taker/Diesel was good too.

I liked Edge/Taker as well.

However, there was no time I thought Taker was going to lose except in HBK/Taker 1
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He'll die / disappear / retire with it.
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1. HBK/Taker WM 25
2. Edge/Taker
3. Flair/Taker
4. Triple H/Taker
5. HBK/Taker WM 26
6. Diesel/Taker
7. Kane/Taker WM 14
8. Orton/Taker
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All I can say is that the streak had better fucking well never be broken. If Shawn doesn't deserve to take it, then no one does. Period.

Taker can only wrestle Cena or HHH at Mania next year. Those are the only two who may be able to convince some percentage of fans that it may be broken.

But if either of those two break it... Shit.
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The streak should either be kept alive or only broken when The Undertaker can pass the torch. HBK had nothing to gain from beating The Undertaker. If he passes the torch to someone with the potential, focus, and loyalty needed to be a success in WWE, I'll be happy.
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The streak should either be kept alive or only broken when The Undertaker can pass the torch. HBK had nothing to gain from beating The Undertaker. If he passes the torch to someone with the potential, focus, and loyalty needed to be a success in WWE, I'll be happy.
This. Make it into a Hogan/Andre type of deal. With Taker in the role of Andre, and some guy on the cusp of the next level being Hogan.
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This. Make it into a Hogan/Andre type of deal. With Taker in the role of Andre, and some guy on the cusp of the next level being Hogan.
There is simply no one reliable enough to take the streak. No one. Anyone who takes the streak will be pushed to the moon, and the fans will shit all over it. In today's world with 4 programs on every week, it just can't be used to build someone else. People will get sick of the new person in no time.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:51 AM   #14
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All I can say is that the streak had better fucking well never be broken. If Shawn doesn't deserve to take it, then no one does. Period.

Taker can only wrestle Cena or HHH at Mania next year. Those are the only two who may be able to convince some percentage of fans that it may be broken.

But if either of those two break it... Shit.
imo i believe cena will face taker next year and jericho at westlemania 28
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:52 AM   #15
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If Cena breaks it, I might just fucking vomit everywhere.
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If Cena broke it I might just quit watching.
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I'm pretty sure Cena won't break it and even if he was asked to he'd probably refuse.
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:19 AM   #18
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I really can't decide between Taker/HBK I and Taker/HBK II. I'd have to re-watch both again. I think I marked a little bit more during the first because I was that much more certain of the result going into this year...but still. Amazing matches.
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I wanted the HBK appreciation thread instead but I will take what I get. Streak continues, it rocks. End of story!
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1. WM 25 (because HBK brings out the best in anyone)
2. WM 26 (same as above)
3. WM 17 vs HHH
4. WM 12 vs Diesel
5. WM 24 vs Edge

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Orton
Flair
Kane 1
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I wonder WHEN the WWE (or whoever it was) found out that the Undertaker had not lost a WrestleMania match and decided to let it be known that there was a STREAK...OR, if it was a planned thing all along, that he be undefeated at WrestleMania.
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If Cena broke it I might just quit watching.
might? MIGHT?! I WILL if he does...
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Is it true Kane was once supposed to break Taker's streak but refused?
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At WM 14? It's possible especially since the streak wasn't that big of a deal then. I doubt they would have Kane go over at WM 20.

I remember reading Orton was going to snap it in 2005 before he got injured
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Sid needs a rematch. He would end it this time.
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Fucking knew your post was going to be about Sid before I even clicked the thread
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Sid ending it would be shitty.
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At WM 14? It's possible especially since the streak wasn't that big of a deal then. I doubt they would have Kane go over at WM 20.

I remember reading Orton was going to snap it in 2005 before he got injured
Nope, actually WM20. Supposedly it was Taker himself that felt the streak has lived too long and wanted to lose to Kane, but when the WWE officials talked to him he said it's too legendary and all that and he won't do it. I remember reading about this, but no idea how true it is.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:55 AM   #29
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He should definitely retire with the streak left alone.

They should take Taker to 20 - 0 at WrestleMania, and then he should hang it up.

There is no one that he needs to drop the streak to and it wouldn't help anyone in any circumstance. Cena gets no benefit, HHH gets no benefit, HBK would've had no benefit, and there is no one else in the company or currently in wrestling that would benefit / be worthy enough of it.

In reality, with a situation like that - it should be left as one of the few untouchable things in wrestling; like Sammartino's Title Reign, etc.
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Go figure, I am glad they didn't let Kane end it. So I guess Orton was definitely going to break it at WM 21 then (still think that's the most convinced I've been to Taker losing)

Really Taker should just go to 20-0 like Kayfabeman is saying. At this point, over the last 4-5 years the streak has become larger than life. No youngster should even face Taker at WM let alone beat him... and from the main-eventers, no one would benefit from breaking it. They may get X-Pac heat for life

The streak if it were to be broken should have been done by a Lesnar in 2003 or a Cena/Orton in 2005. It probably should just stay now.
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On a side note, am I the only one who - yes, I am saying his name - wishes that Chris Benoit was alive and could have faced Undertaker at some point at WrestleMania???

With seeing the Michaels / Taker match, I have to believe a Benoit / Taker match would have been fantastic as well.

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It would have been a really good match. Those two never really had a chance to put on a great match, which they are capable of.

I think Kurt Angle vs Undertaker at a Wrestlemania could rival the Taker/HBK matches. Remember their NWO 2006 match? That was incredible and is overlooked simply because it was at NWO
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They've elevated Taker matches to such a height in the past few years that they can't go back to feeding him opponents who nobody buy at having a shot.

And at this point nobody should have a shot. I don't know who they could throw at him other than Cena that fans will care about.
In past years, Jericho or Punk would be great opponents just because it would make for a good build, and the match would be quality. Not anymore though. Nobody will buy them having a shot at winning, and although they'd put on a good match it wouldn't be an epic encounter, or a nail biter.
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Added to that, the fact that Shawn Michaels had to BEG to get a match with him at WrestleMania.... wrestling Taker at Mania is a privilege now. That alone 'puts you over' now.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:15 AM   #35
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It would have been a really good match. Those two never really had a chance to put on a great match, which they are capable of.

I think Kurt Angle vs Undertaker at a Wrestlemania could rival the Taker/HBK matches. Remember their NWO 2006 match? That was incredible and is overlooked simply because it was at NWO
I think it could be a great match, but I don't think it would have the story and importance behind it.
One big part about Taker vs Michaels isn't even a part of the storylines, but real life. The two guys are the biggest veterans in the company today, and probably of alltime. Neither of them has ever left through thick and thin, and they've been there for 20 years.
Add to that the fact that they were both made top guys at the same time in the mid 90s, and after a few classic encounters, never faced again for a decade.

Plus the fact that both of their legacies are defined by the event of Wrestlemania. No other two wrestlers have that kind of word association with the event. The Streak and Mr. Wrestlemania.
The event is everything to the series of matches. If the rematch, or the first one, were to take place on any other PPV it would be a fantastic match but so much of what makes it great would be sacrificed.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:20 AM   #36
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Of course. The back story is what makes this match seem much more important.

If Benoit would have went into it, I would have had everyone aiming for a match with Taker, and have Benoit be constantly overlooked by him - until Benoit was pushed to finally snap and destroy Taker, making a point to bring up every single one of Benoit's accomplishments and how he's every bit as important as Taker, etc.
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Taker vs Cena will be a huge draw for them, and they should do it just for how much interest it will garner.
Still, after tonight a part of me thinks they should just stop it at 18-0. There's not a showdown that is going to stack up. Taker is going to retire soon anyways, or should.

If they don't do his final angle this year, which they probably won't, they should go ahead with Taker vs Cena for next year. But after that he should start with his retirement angle.
I can't think of a 20th opponent who is worth the time. At least not at this time.

The question is, how will they book an Undertaker retirement angle? His career is so epic he has to have a storyline and sendoff of some kind.
It can't be like it is for a normal wrestler though, because of his incredible gimmick. They have to do something huge, and honor the gimmick and the man at the same time.
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Yeah, most of the guys I could see Taker going out against are either out of the business, dead, in TNA or married to Stephanie McMahon
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Damn, if Cena won at WM 24 he would be 7-0 at Wrestlemania right now. Imagine that match next year -- Taker vs Cena -- streak vs streak
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