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Old 04-07-2010, 01:26 PM   #1
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Ok. So they kind of drop a bit onto us through Faraday that setting off the bomb created the alt verse.

I think not.

I think the Alt verse is created when MiB leaves the Island. He wins. Everyone tht everyone knows ceases to exist and is replaced by the alt verse. In this, the MIB gives everyone what they want.(But at a cost)

JAck is a good father
Claire has Aaron
Nadia is alive
Desmond has Widmores approval
Charlies band is still together

But what people want is not necessarily what is best for them and all. Desmond is going to help awaken people to their true lives, which they will see that helping the MIB wont give them what they want. they will then help the side of jacob.

Or something.
What?

It was the bomb that altered and created an alternate universe. I feel as though it's too late for their to be another explanation as well as tie up the entire story and have everything fall into place.

I believe what he will 'show them', is what I suggested a few times during this new season. He is going to show them by getting them all together again. On a plane. The plane will end up 'crashing' and taking/merging everyone back on the Island, bringing back to life and whole again, John Locke.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:33 PM   #2
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What?

It was the bomb that altered and created an alternate universe. I feel as though it's too late for their to be another explanation as well as tie up the entire story and have everything fall into place.

I believe what he will 'show them', is what I suggested a few times during this new season. He is going to show them by getting them all together again. On a plane. The plane will end up 'crashing' and taking/merging everyone back on the Island, bringing back to life and whole again, John Locke.
I have never believed the bomb theory, since it alters things much farther back than the crash. Jack has a 14 year old son for christ sakes. Where did he come from?

I still think that they will say the Nuke got everyone back to the right time, and thats it.

I bet they throw all kinds of new shit at us next week. Lost doesnt care about answering old questions.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #3
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I have never believed the bomb theory, since it alters things much farther back than the crash. Jack has a 14 year old son for christ sakes. Where did he come from?

I still think that they will say the Nuke got everyone back to the right time, and thats it.

I bet they throw all kinds of new shit at us next week. Lost doesnt care about answering old questions.
The bomb that set the alternate universe into motion detonated in 1977. Jack's son was presumably born somewhere around 1990.

They also address the island being destroyed, by showing it at the bottom of the ocean. The statue is still there, the Dharma initiative is still there, etc.
That's because those things were built before 1977. It's on the bottom of the ocean from 1977 onwards though.

The only people who would have been on the island at that time are Ben Linus, and his father. It's specifically addressed though, that Roger Linus was a workman for the DI on the island, with Ben, but he decided to leave his job.
They returned back to the mainland before the bomb went off, which is when the alternate reality began to unfold.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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The bomb that set the alternate universe into motion detonated in 1977. Jack's son was presumably born somewhere around 1990.

They also address the island being destroyed, by showing it at the bottom of the ocean. The statue is still there, the Dharma initiative is still there, etc.
That's because those things were built before 1977. It's on the bottom of the ocean from 1977 onwards though.

The only people who would have been on the island at that time are Ben Linus, and his father. It's specifically addressed though, that Roger Linus was a workman for the DI on the island, with Ben, but he decided to leave his job.
They returned back to the mainland before the bomb went off, which is when the alternate reality began to unfold.
Im still not totally convinced the bomb is why the island is at the bottom of the ocean, though I think it is the most likely answer. Roger Linus shot Sayid the day the bomb went off, did he have enough time to get off the island?

Also, Widmore and Eloise were both on the Island as well, and in the new reality, they are married and living happily off the island. Did they have enough time to get off the island too?
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:55 PM   #5
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Im still not totally convinced the bomb is why the island is at the bottom of the ocean, though I think it is the most likely answer. Roger Linus shot Sayid the day the bomb went off, did he have enough time to get off the island?

Also, Widmore and Eloise were both on the Island as well, and in the new reality, they are married and living happily off the island. Did they have enough time to get off the island too?
I'm personally not saying whenever I say it that the bomb is what sent the Island to the sea bed, rather IT IS what split reality in two.

Think you are going on a theory that the incident/the bomb did sink the Island, when really, it didn't necessarily cause a hydrogen explosion, it in fact silenced the pocket of energy or altered it. The bomb did go off, but it didn't cause a massive explosion. Pretty sure if it did, the Barracks wouldn't even be standing, but they were pretty much intact.
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I'm personally not saying whenever I say it that the bomb is what sent the Island to the sea bed, rather IT IS what split reality in two.

Think you are going on a theory that the incident/the bomb did sink the Island, when really, it didn't necessarily cause a hydrogen explosion, it in fact silenced the pocket of energy or altered it. The bomb did go off, but it didn't cause a massive explosion. Pretty sure if it did, the Barracks wouldn't even be standing, but they were pretty much intact.
Anyone know if it is possible for a nuclear weapon to emit its EMP but not cause a full fledged nuclear explosion?

Because that would certainly explain a lot.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:59 PM   #7
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Anyone know if it is possible for a nuclear weapon to emit its EMP but not cause a full fledged nuclear explosion?

Because that would certainly explain a lot.
Well Faraday's plan revolved on having the thermonuclear core being removed from the bomb and used. I'm not a bomb expert, to me, that just sounds like the real dangerous and main part of the bomb was used.

I don't know if we will EVER find out the precise scienfific way in which the bomb was used with the pocket of energy. I guess it more a case of two powers colliding and the effects either being made through science, or even part of some kind of higher Island power?
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I'm personally not saying whenever I say it that the bomb is what sent the Island to the sea bed, rather IT IS what split reality in two.

Think you are going on a theory that the incident/the bomb did sink the Island, when really, it didn't necessarily cause a hydrogen explosion, it in fact silenced the pocket of energy or altered it. The bomb did go off, but it didn't cause a massive explosion. Pretty sure if it did, the Barracks wouldn't even be standing, but they were pretty much intact.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:34 PM   #9
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What?

It was the bomb that altered and created an alternate universe. I feel as though it's too late for their to be another explanation as well as tie up the entire story and have everything fall into place.

I believe what he will 'show them', is what I suggested a few times during this new season. He is going to show them by getting them all together again. On a plane. The plane will end up 'crashing' and taking/merging everyone back on the Island, bringing back to life and whole again, John Locke.
What about charlie?

Nikki? Paulo? Charlotte? Daniel? Eko? Libby? Michelle Rdoriguez?

Are their bodies going to just come backto life underground/water too?

There is no make Locke whole, his body isnt MIB.
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