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Old 04-29-2010, 04:47 PM   #41
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Tazz came from the bingo hall and beat Kurt Angle's undefeated streak right out of the gate. I'm perfectly aware of where his career went, but that was huge for a "bingo haller" to do something like that.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:48 PM   #42
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28 isn't old btw
also many many of the 'top guys' didn't have personality or mic skills, which is where managers come in, don't you know anything about wrestling at all?
What about the body of a Ric Flair? I'm not talking about Ric Flair 15 or so years ago either. Im talking about the body Ric has had for the last 5 years.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:48 PM   #43
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Except he doesn't have the body of Ric Flair. He just doesn't overroid.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:49 PM   #44
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:51 PM   #46
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Tazz came from the bingo hall and beat Kurt Angle's undefeated streak right out of the gate. I'm perfectly aware of where his career went, but that was huge for a "bingo haller" to do something like that.
He came from ECW, another some what "mainstream" fed that was actually on TV across the United States and Canada and was a multiple world champion.
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So define bingo hall.

ROH? Below ROH?

What about all his work in Japan? He wrestled in fucking New Japan. Is that moot? Working in one of if not Japan's biggest wrestling promotion?
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im sure it was hell in the 'bingo hall'
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:55 PM   #49
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He came from ECW, another some what "mainstream" fed that was actually on TV across the United States and Canada and was a multiple world champion.
Did you by chance catch ECW on TV at the time? Where were their shows held? Any ideas, fella?
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So define bingo hall.

ROH? Below ROH?

What about all his work in Japan? He wrestled in fucking New Japan. Is that moot? Working in one of if not Japan's biggest wrestling promotion.
Everyone in North America, expect for you IWC retards, have no idea about what happens in Japan, so yes, for the regular fans, and the TARGET MARKET of the WWE it is completely moot.
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So basically, to be successful you have to be known to the mainstream audience in WWE before debuting....

Is that what you're saying?
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He came from WCW, another "mainstream" fed. Not out of a bingo hall
Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
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So basically, to be successful you have to be known to the mainstream audience in WWE before debuting....

Is that what you're saying?
Kinda sounds like it...
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Name calling isn't going to prove your point, fella.
Also, come to think of it your whole argument is based off of your opinion. That doesn't really work out so well.
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Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
Nope, ECW was a MAINSTREAM promotion! And Japan doesn't mean jack shit!
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No. I am saying Bryan Danielson cannot, and will not be successful.
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Nope, ECW was a MAINSTREAM promotion! And Japan doesn't mean jack shit!
Regardless Fella, he at one point wrestled in a bingo hall.
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No. I am saying Bryan Danielson cannot, and will not be successful.
People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
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Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
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There's no confusion TJ. I don't like him. I've seen what he has to offer. That's all I need to see. He will fail. And when he does meet me back on this thread in under a year so I can say I told you so.
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People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
Hell that very statement was made about quite a few wrestlers that went on to make it big. Quite the list.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:03 PM   #61
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Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
Where did he come from BEFORE he arrived to WCW? WCW, a national promotion?
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Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
What does that have to do with anything? Go back to fucking your goat.
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There's no confusion TJ. I don't like him. I've seen what he has to offer. That's all I need to see. He will fail. And when he does meet me back on this thread in under a year so I can say I told you so.
You've seen what he has to offer. Props to you for that. I look forward to that future conversation, although under a year isn't nearly enough time to tell if someone has "made it" or not in the wrestling business.
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What does that have to do with anything? Go back to fucking your goat.
It means he made a name for himself with the "mainstream" fans before entering the WWE.
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Seriously, you're ignoring his ECW-WCW jump.
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@ Xero being told to keep quiet... That's hilarious.
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It means he made a name for himself with the "mainstream" fans before entering the WWE.
Under a gimmick not many people knew.
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You all can be fan boys all you want. And I have no idea why you all are. But he won't make it. I'm sorry. He has no gimmick, he has no mic skills...he would have made it in the 80's but he won't make it now. I know it's cool to vote for the underdog. But seriously, I think this is one of those things where the most of you just wanted to jump on the band wagon. Just make sure you jump back off before it goes off the cliff.
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It means he made a name for himself with the "mainstream" fans before entering the WWE.
the wwf was the second company at the time wcw was on top
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You do realize that they brought him in for a reason, right?

They put him against CHRIS JERICHO, the WORLD CHAMPION, in his first match. You're going to tell me that, at the very least, WWE doesn't see something good in him? For having his first match, which was quite competitive, against the world champion?
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People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
No they didn't.
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You all can be fan boys all you want. And I have no idea why you all are. But he won't make it. I'm sorry. He has no gimmick, he has no mic skills...he would have made it in the 80's but he won't make it now. I know it's cool to vote for the underdog. But seriously, I think this is one of those things where the most of you just wanted to jump on the band wagon. Just make sure you jump back off before it goes off the cliff.
mic skills + gimmick = wrestler ?

there are so many other factors you are missing
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@ Xero being told to keep quiet... That's hilarious.
That wasn't to Xero. Now you can keep quiet now too.
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That wasn't to Xero. Now you can keep quiet now too.
Bitch please! You got no say in what goes on here, fella.
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You do realize that they brought him in for a reason, right?

They put him against CHRIS JERICHO, the WORLD CHAMPION, in his first match. You're going to tell me that, at the very least, WWE doesn't see something good in him? For having his first match, which was quite competitive, against the world champion?
What has he done since? They had the perfect opportunity to showcase him to a "huge" audience by hosting Monday Night Raw but instead they chose Kate Hudson's man. What does that tell you? Not too mention, I believe that match was on the debut show of NXT, and the WWE wanted to do something "special."
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No they didn't.
Now I know why I tend to stay out of this forum and I now also feel Juan's pain.
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Now I know why I tend to stay out of this forum and I now also feel Juan's pain.
We're cool, fella. Don't let the trolls get to ya.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:18 PM   #79
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What has he done since? They had the perfect opportunity to showcase him to a "huge" audience by hosting Monday Night Raw but instead they chose Kate Hudson's man. What does that tell you? Not too mention, I believe that match was on the debut show of NXT, and the WWE wanted to do something "special."
why do you think that the wwe are having him lose every match?

wwe have huge plans for danielson and also otunga
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:19 PM   #80
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mic skills + gimmick = wrestler ?

there are so many other factors you are missing
John Cena, Goldberg, Batista
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