Your biggest disappointments (Lesnar, Goldberg, Invasion, Jericho)

**SuperSlim** · 05-04-2004, 08:26 PM

oh man I remember sittin at the edge of my seat just waitin for somethin like that to happen.

WWF buys out WCW... WCW/ECW vs. WWF... dream for any wrestling fan.

Their problems were they rushed it way too quick and they didn't really use anybody at all.

I mean really not only was Austin the top guy for the Alliance, but Kurt Angle was the second guy- another WWF guy. Then we had Booker who was at least a recognizable someone from WCW but that was bout it. and DDP but he wasn't much.

Adding ECW to the mix really made things interesting with RVD comin in through the crowd with Dreamer... man I wondered when teh day would come RVD would join WWF and that was when. and The Duds, Tazz, and others with ECW was good. But Shane as WCW owner wasn't that bad. IMO he did pretty good cause there really wasn't anyone else the WWF had at the time that could do it. And they had it perfect with Paul as ECW owner. It was perfect with just Shane and Paul but they totally screwed it up adding Steph to ECW of all places. She did not have the look nor attitude to be ECW. Another McMahon feud. Took somethin that coulda been the most memorable and awesome thing to ever happen in wrestling history to a complete piece of crap

**Batsu** · 05-04-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim

It was perfect with just Shane and Paul but they totally screwed it up adding Steph to ECW of all places. She did not have the look nor attitude to be ECW. Another McMahon feud. Took somethin that coulda been the most memorable and awesome thing to ever happen in wrestling history to a complete piece of crap

My sentiment exactly.

Shane McMahon as WCW owner was a good idea. After all, Shane (despite the inconsistencies of the McMahons as characters) always seemed to have an underlying theme of showing up his old man. The set up of having Shane McMahon on Nitro was also cool.

Paul Heyman SHOULD have been the one to lead ECW, not Stephanie. That was the lamest reason to put Steph back on television. Stephanie, before she "inflated", was only really good for a female version of "X-Pac heat", especially then.

and then the alliance of WCW and ECW...that was just a bad idea. If they were going to be heels, it should have been the angle equivalent of a "Triple Threat" match. WWF's competition should have been made to look like it really was in trouble with WCW (with Booker T at the helm of the wrestlers) and ECW (with RVD at the helm) disrupting their shows.

if Austin was going to leave WWF angle-wise and join "The Alliance" as a heel, he ought to have done the ultimate sin: pull an Alundra Blayze and trash the WWF Title, then forcibly take the WCW belt.

**Marc the Smark** · 05-04-2004, 10:58 PM

You know what's really sad? This was the one angle in wrestling history that could not fail, but we all know that it did. Not one person out there has come forward to say otherwise, because it just can't be refuted.

One thing that bothers me is that the Invasion angle was rushed. They got ahead of themselves and didn't book it properly. Out of the whole angle, there were only really a handful of things booked far in advance. They should have taken their time with it and planned it all out fully. Anyone with half a brain should have realised that WWF would have to be the face side, yet they pushed WCW as the good guys. Had they booked it better, it could have gone on for much longer and not been the incidental thing that it became. They clustered the titles, ****ed up the booking of wrestler, ignored the problems that just having them wrestle each other on free TV all the time would pose for things getting stale and being able to build PPV's.

As far as the big names issue. The main guys cost too much, if they really wished to be in WWE and performing at that point in time, they would have simply accepted buyouts. Yes, it is good for them financially, but if I truly wanted to be out there performing, I would have accepted the buyout. Not sit and home and let my market value slide away significantly.

Guys jumping ship should have at least been consistant. Austin's jump was terribly done and didn't make sense. I had hard time believing Austin would be a part of a company he ended up hating. Even Jericho, who also disliked WCW would have been more believable.

Heyman should have had a bigger input from the angle that slow build up of angles, heat and the storyline would enable WWE to acheive big payoffs when it finally finished. Unfortunately, they rushed every single move they made.

05-04-2004, 08:26 PM	#1
SuperSlim Oh Sht* Posts: 19,302	oh man I remember sittin at the edge of my seat just waitin for somethin like that to happen. WWF buys out WCW... WCW/ECW vs. WWF... dream for any wrestling fan. Their problems were they rushed it way too quick and they didn't really use anybody at all. I mean really not only was Austin the top guy for the Alliance, but Kurt Angle was the second guy- another WWF guy. Then we had Booker who was at least a recognizable someone from WCW but that was bout it. and DDP but he wasn't much. Adding ECW to the mix really made things interesting with RVD comin in through the crowd with Dreamer... man I wondered when teh day would come RVD would join WWF and that was when. and The Duds, Tazz, and others with ECW was good. But Shane as WCW owner wasn't that bad. IMO he did pretty good cause there really wasn't anyone else the WWF had at the time that could do it. And they had it perfect with Paul as ECW owner. It was perfect with just Shane and Paul but they totally screwed it up adding Steph to ECW of all places. She did not have the look nor attitude to be ECW. Another McMahon feud. Took somethin that coulda been the most memorable and awesome thing to ever happen in wrestling history to a complete piece of crap

05-04-2004, 10:58 PM	#3
Marc the Smark Posts: 2,064	You know what's really sad? This was the one angle in wrestling history that could not fail, but we all know that it did. Not one person out there has come forward to say otherwise, because it just can't be refuted. One thing that bothers me is that the Invasion angle was rushed. They got ahead of themselves and didn't book it properly. Out of the whole angle, there were only really a handful of things booked far in advance. They should have taken their time with it and planned it all out fully. Anyone with half a brain should have realised that WWF would have to be the face side, yet they pushed WCW as the good guys. Had they booked it better, it could have gone on for much longer and not been the incidental thing that it became. They clustered the titles, ****ed up the booking of wrestler, ignored the problems that just having them wrestle each other on free TV all the time would pose for things getting stale and being able to build PPV's. As far as the big names issue. The main guys cost too much, if they really wished to be in WWE and performing at that point in time, they would have simply accepted buyouts. Yes, it is good for them financially, but if I truly wanted to be out there performing, I would have accepted the buyout. Not sit and home and let my market value slide away significantly. Guys jumping ship should have at least been consistant. Austin's jump was terribly done and didn't make sense. I had hard time believing Austin would be a part of a company he ended up hating. Even Jericho, who also disliked WCW would have been more believable. Heyman should have had a bigger input from the angle that slow build up of angles, heat and the storyline would enable WWE to acheive big payoffs when it finally finished. Unfortunately, they rushed every single move they made.