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Old 06-12-2010, 09:47 AM   #161
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lol, watching the part of the beatdown where Slater goes to choke Cena with the ring rope. He does it for about 1 second before Cena rolls over and Slater immediately stops. As if something popped in his head saying "shit, can't do that"

If the production truck hadn't caught Bryan choking Roberts, this may have never happened. Pretty crazy to think about.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:04 AM   #162
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Taking a huge sign with Roberts being choked out to Fatal Four Way.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:21 AM   #163
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If they truly plan on bringing him back once this situation cools down, than it really won't be that hard to spin his termination as part of the storyline. They could easily just have Cole(joyfully) mention that he went ahead and filed charges and brought up a lawsuit against Bryan for the assault that took place on NXT, and part of the lawsuit places a restraining order against Bryan from being within so many feet of Cole. Then they can continue along with the original storyline, and just bring Bryan back some time down the line. Things could possibly work out for the best if the WWE handles it right, and Bryan just chills out until every thing blows over.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:22 AM   #164
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:32 AM   #165
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Damn, you guys have it to where I don't know what to think on this. I'd imagine its legit, but who knows. Exciting.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:37 AM   #166
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"Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring."

That still just seems like such a weird thing to say when you've just had your big break squashed despite being in the middle of a major angle.

My official guess would be we only see Barrett the next few weeks (cause in kayfabe, the others should not be anywhere near a WWE event) - then the group can get brought back, Danielson included.
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well that twitter post to me screams work. Because it you look at Raw, Daniel Bryan pretty much morphed into Bryan Danielson. It seemed so real with him getting years of frustration out of watching guys who can't work make all the money. Now obviously Cena can work, but you know what I mean. So this whole name change thing seems in line with his character right now
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"Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring."

That still just seems like such a weird thing to say when you've just had your big break squashed despite being in the middle of a major angle.

My official guess would be we only see Barrett the next few weeks (cause in kayfabe, the others should not be anywhere near a WWE event) - then the group can get brought back, Danielson included.
I think Occam's Razor would have something to say to that.

Not saying it's impossible, though if it is a work I'll likely be pegged as having said exactly that, but it seems more likely that he was future endeavored.
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Hey, guys. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. Because the announcement on the WWE website mentions Daniel Bryan *and* his real name, I'm afraid his firing might be legit. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. What I don't understand is WHY he was fired. Was it for spitting at Cena, or for choking Justin Roberts? Was either of those not part of the plan?
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:02 AM   #170
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Hey, guys. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. Because the announcement on the WWE website mentions Daniel Bryan *and* his real name, I'm afraid his firing might be legit. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. What I don't understand is WHY he was fired. Was it for spitting at Cena, or for choking Justin Roberts? Was either of those not part of the plan?
Read the thread, it's the choke.

If WWE were ever going to work the IWC, it would be with someone like Daniel Brian.

Anyways, doesn't matter. If they want to follow through with the NXT angle, it will work with or without him.

Do I enjoy watching Daniel Brian? Yes, but it's not the end of the world if he did something he was well aware could get him reprimanded (according to some "reporters".)
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I think Occam's Razor would have something to say to that.

Not saying it's impossible, though if it is a work I'll likely be pegged as having said exactly that, but it seems more likely that he was future endeavored.
Yeah, I think he's gone - but it may very well only be temporary. They plan on bringing him back when this all "blows over" so for now it would just seem to make sense to have Wade Barrett caution about more attacks coming while keeping the rest of the group off TV. As it is, they have a tough act to follow from last week so I'd have the group lay low as if they are "picking their spots".

Then once the next PPV comes around when Barrett cashes in his title shot, have the group show up again...complete with a re-hired Danielson. Then they can just continue on as if nothing happened.

They've ignored virtually every suspension/previous firing on air unless they are using it for a story (Jeff Hardy), so this would be no different.
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I think there's a chance that it's a work just because of how they worked the Monday angle in that no one knew what was going to happen.

And honestly, the best way to work the fans is to do it to the point where you're working the boys. If this IS a work, it's definitely a new leaf and a new era for WWE.
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Read the thread, it's the choke
So, there are people who think the choke was legit and wasn't scripted?
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Not by WWE. Most of that segment was likely on the fly. They probably had instructions to attack whoever came near them, do the finisher fest on Cena and to fuck up the ring. Probably nothing much else than that. Which makes sense, considering it's pretty ridiculous how far they went with tearing up the ring mat and everything.

Remember that no one but Cena and the NXT rookies knew what was up. Maybe Punk did, but there's a chance that him getting into the ring to attack them was something he decided to do, which isn't out of the realm of possibility for Punk.

Obviously the choke wasn't "legit" and Roberts was clued in during the attack.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:13 AM   #175
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It's really not that hard to understand them releasing him for choking the fuck out of Roberts after Benoit and with Linda running given how politics works. He'll be back down the line. Providing it isn't a very elaborate (and very un-WWE) work.
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Remember that no one but Cena and the NXT rookies knew what was up
I hadn't realized that.
So, was the choke legitimate? Or just done half-assedly? Or the powers-that-be just thought it was too much and are trying to save Linda McMahon's reputation?
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Honestly, the choke is now making me realize what WWE is missing in general, violence. That was one of the most violent things on WWE tv in a long time. And when I say "violent", I don't mean WWE violence but legitimate "he's fucking him up" violence.
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That's not true.
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Honestly, the choke is now making me realize what WWE is missing in general, violence. That was one of the most violent things on WWE tv in a long time. And when I say "violent", I don't mean WWE violence but legitimate "he's fucking him up" violence.
Why the hell did the cameraman show it on the original live broadcast?
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That's not true.
This is what I've been hearing. Pretty much no one but the rookies and Cena knew, which is why Cole and Serena fled.

Sure, it's more of a rumor, but considering some of the reactions, I believe it.
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No chance in hell (hur hur) every piece of visible public 'talent' from the workers to security to the announcers to Yeaton etc didn't know what was going on. It isn't WCW.
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Speaking of rumors, I just read on another site (WrestleZone) that the Mattel Toy Company complained about the choke and that's why he was fired! That almost seems laughable, and it might be completely false, but if it's a choice between sacking a wrestler who isn't a huge main eventer and losing one of the company's biggest sponsors then it's not really a tough choice for them to make. As Vince would say, "it's all about the monnnnnnnnnayyyyy!"
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Exactly, it's not laughable at all if that were true, WWE make an incredible amount of money through Mattel.
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- We have just received information that Paul Levesque (Triple H) may have been the one responsible for Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) being released from WWE. We do not know exactly the reasons behind this course of action but will update you later today once we find out more.

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Although I would prefer to keep the group (sans Barrett) off-screen to build up to the next attack, if they do continue on with just 7 guys, I hope they don't do the typical WWE move and go on as though nothing happened, and at least mention it. They can say one of them quit on the initiative, or something...and set up Danielson for a badass face run if he comes back. But if nothing else, they won't make the fans feel stupid for thinking "wait...wasn't there 8 guys?"

Hell, a little more brainstorming - if they are worried about not being at full strength and not having a versatile guy in the group to handle the brunt of the in-ring work, Kaval could EASILY be slotted in. Almost all of the NXT2 rookies claimed that what NXT1 did was a great way to make a statement, so he could easily join them and say that one week with Lay-Cool was more than he could stomach and he deserves better, etc.

Kaval can kick people's heads in just like Danielson, and would also fill the role of "internet darling" of the group.
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- We have just received information that Paul Levesque (Triple H) may have been the one responsible for Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) being released from WWE. We do not know exactly the reasons behind this course of action but will update you later today once we find out more.

Wresling Insider - http://www.wrestlinginsider.org/?p=108

LOL.
I would avoid the internet like the plague if this were true.
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I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.
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I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.
Indeed.

The whole thought of the IWC imploding with the theme of 'King Of Kings' playing made me chuckle. Quite hard.
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For all we know maybe they're purposely removing him from tv for the simple fact that he made himself look better than Barrett during the whole ordeal with his whole verbal tirade on Cena.
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If it's a work, they should now release Punk. Just "release" all the internet darlings. Get us talking even more.
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I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.
Actually, I'll also believe it if HHH is revealed as the mastermind behind the NXT attack.
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For all we know maybe they're purposely removing him from tv for the simple fact that he made himself look better than Barrett during the whole ordeal with his whole verbal tirade on Cena.
And better than Cena! hahahahah
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If it's a work, they should now release Punk. Just "release" all the internet darlings. Get us talking even more.
And Cena, just to make it look like WWE has totally fucking lost it and no-one knows what will happen.
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lol "release" all the top faces and have them show up in ROH.
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So, was the choke legitimate? Or was it done half-assedly and cause an injury? Or did someone think it just looked too real? Or too over-the-top and putting Linda's reputation at risk? I need answers!
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MAIN EVENT AT DEATH OR DISHONOR:

Fatal 4 Way for the ROH Pure title.

John Cena Vs. Randy Orton Vs. Daniel Brian (yeah, he kept the name) Vs. HHH

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Listen,

If it is true, we got an awesome picture out of it with Roberts.

But honestly, spitting in Cena's face, and closed fists on The Miz making his gums bleed etc. Maybe they just think he was being to "stiff" etc. Getting above his station.

I hope its a work. How many times did Cole say "Go back to the independents and shit about his internet buddies". It's 50/50 for me, but I reckon he's gone for spitting in Wiggers face.
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Could WWE Y7 be too far ahead?
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