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Old 06-12-2010, 11:47 AM   #201
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I reckon he's gone for spitting in Wiggers face.
Careful! I mentioned that before in here, and was reprimanded for it.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:48 AM   #202
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Can't imagine that this is legit... Who knows though. WWE has made some stupid decisions in the past, but at the same time, they're trying to use the internet more now. If this is legit, it's fucking stupid.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:49 AM   #203
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Releasing him for spitting in Cena's face is utterly ridiclous there's been tons of guys that have done snot rockets on many occasion and nothing was ever done about it.
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I was gonna put a post up weeks ago, sayin that I think WWE woud fuck up with Bryan Danielson's character on TV as they did w/ Tazz. And I was right. This seems to be real. How many times has the WWE fucked things up? A lot! Just hope the Dragon shows up at the Sept 11th show in NYC and cuts a shoot promo (they can remove it off the DVD like they did w/ Cornettes ROH debut in the city)
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:51 AM   #206
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I could see him being released for being too stiff, but at the same time, why actually release someone for that? It's not like he couldn't be warned.

The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:51 AM   #207
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My biggest concern about all of this is that I think it sets a really horrible precedent for the workers.

What made the angle so amazing was that all 8 guys seemed to be so lost in the moment. They genuinely looked like they wanted to fuck shit up, AmDrag included. This whole sense of getting lost in the angle really shined through and made it all the more memorable, and is something I haven't seen in quite some time.

But now, guys are going to be afraid to get lost in the angle. "Oops, this might look too violent and/or too stiff. Can't do that even if it makes sense, might be fired."

The company values its public image more than the product itself. I think we've all known that for quite some time, but this just validates it.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:52 AM   #208
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I could see him being released for being too stiff, but at the same time, why actually release someone for that? It's not like he couldn't be warned.

The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?
To Danielson's credit/downfall, it was a very realistic looking choke (probably because he was legit choking the fuck out of him)
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The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?
Because it was too similar to the Benoit situation
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:56 AM   #210
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Because it was too similar to the Benoit situation
Still, choking someone is not as bad as trying to run them over with a car.

The Benoit theory is stupid, as people choke people all the time. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's stupid, and if that really is the reason, WWE is fucking retarded. Attacking women, hitting people with sledge hammers, trying to run over them with cars, chairs, etc, etc, but choking someone is too much? Come on.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:58 AM   #212
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Still, choking someone is not as bad as trying to run them over with a car.

The Benoit theory is stupid, as people choke people all the time. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's stupid, and if that really is the reason, WWE is fucking retarded. Attacking women, hitting people with sledge hammers, trying to run over them with cars, chairs, etc, etc, but choking someone is too much? Come on.
I read somewhere that ever since the Benoit tragedy the WWE has had a rule about using objects to choke people. If Danielson knew about this, and I presume he did/does, but did the choke anyway then his firing is legit and makes sense. Maybe he just got caught up in the moment?
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:00 PM   #213
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Except, of course, it's been done since then. Even if that's the rule, it's stupid, and a retarded reason to fire someone, if true. If he actually hurt Roberts doing it, that's one thing, but to fire him for doing it is idiotic.
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From liveaudiowrestling.com:

"The WWE announced Friday night that they have released Daniel Bryan.

It is not believed to be a part of the angle with the internal word that Bryan was fired for choking Justin Roberts with a tie (there was a ban on any choking spots following the Benoit murders).

Interestingly there was also a spot on 'Raw' where Heath Slater grabbed the ring rope to choke Cena but immediately stopped right after he began to."
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In fairness, Roberts looked thoroughly confused during the whole thing. It could just be that he's a good actor, but when Slater and Gabriel grabbed him, he looked like he had no idea what the hell was going on.

I would think they told him what was going to happen when they ripped his shirt off, but that's still not really enough time to request to not be choked.
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"The WWE announced Friday night that they have released Daniel Bryan.

It is not believed to be a part of the angle with the internal word that Bryan was fired for choking Justin Roberts with a tie (there was a ban on any choking spots following the Benoit murders).

Interestingly there was also a spot on 'Raw' where Heath Slater grabbed the ring rope to choke Cena but immediately stopped right after he began to."
This explains it, folks.
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lol "release" all the top faces and have them show up in ROH.
Vince: "In order to clean our image for Linda's campaign we are going to need to cut a few wrestlers... Hip-hop is hurting our polls, Cena you're gone, No body likes death, Undertaker you are out, Due to the recent snake attack in florida we are going to have to cut you Randy Orton. Since Linda is running for office in America everyone who is not American is cut. Oh and edge this is the PG era......not the Rated R era so i am sorry you are cut as well.

Wrestler: "Triple H had sex with a dead body that's not hurting the polls!?"

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I still wonder if the choke was legitimate
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And why the hell would Danielson want to fuck up his status in the WWE by doing something he knows he wasn't supposed to do?
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And why the hell would Danielson want to fuck up his status in the WWE by doing something he knows he wasn't supposed to do?
A. He didn't know.

B. He was doing it as a camel clutch type thing, and didn't even think about the choke at the time (as Roberts was on his back, and Danielson was pulling him back in the same type of way, just with the tie.)
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A. He didn't know.

B. He was doing it as a camel clutch type thing, and didn't even think about the choke at the time (as Roberts was on his back, and Danielson was pulling him back in the same type of way, just with the tie.)
A. Health Slater seemed to know. I'm sure Danielson knew, too.
B. Very possible - he wasn't thinking. Apparently Justin Roberts knew nothing about it beforehand.
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I DO NOT believe it is real, still. It doesnt make sense. I still say its a work.
Im sure its just ppl making up excuses.
Still its fun to see people comment on it. Angle is working to make ppl pissd off.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:13 PM   #223
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A. Health Slater seemed to know. I'm sure Danielson knew, too.
B. Very possible - he wasn't thinking. Apparently Justin Roberts knew nothing about it beforehand.
Although Cena could have told Slater when he started it too... Not saying that's the case, not trying to make up excuses for Danielson, but think about it... Cena is a wrestler, who could tell Slater "don't do it." Roberts may not have known either.
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Either way, still a stupid reason to fire someone, especially since you know damn well if a hire up did it, it'd be okay.
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Although Cena could have told Slater when he started it too... Not saying that's the case, not trying to make up excuses for Danielson, but think about it... Cena is a wrestler, who could tell Slater "don't do it." Roberts may not have known either.
Possibly. But shit on WWE if they didn't tell Danielson about the rule and then fired him for not knowing about it! I think Danielson probably knew about it and just wasn't thinking.
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Bryan Danielson does come across like he feels he is entitled to a lot things. He probably has a bad attitude backstage.
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I DO NOT believe it is real, still. It doesnt make sense. I still say its a work.
Im sure its just ppl making up excuses.
Still its fun to see people comment on it. Angle is working to make ppl pissd off.
who's this jabroni?? Ryan Clark's nephew??
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I'm going to let time pass, but if he's legitimately fired, and it's over the choke, I feel that it's one of the "last straws" for me.

I'm not saying I'll stop watching WWE, because I won't, but I think I'm going to make more of an effort to watch more non-WWE and TNA wrestling. This angle really reminded me of one of the largest reasons why I love wrestling, the not over the top but still brutal violence. And that is clearly not in WWE's near future.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:24 PM   #232
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So to recap, it seems Danielson was legitly fired for choking Justin Roberts with his tie. Either Danielson did not know he couldn't do this, which I find hard to believe, or he just wasn't thinking. To make matters worse, Mattel complained about the incident and the WWE had to respond accordingly. Roberts did not know beforehand that he was going to be choked??
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:26 PM   #233
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I would guess not.
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Was the choke legit? Was Roberts injured?
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Bryan Danielson does come across like he feels he is entitled to a lot things. He probably has a bad attitude backstage.
Most reports are saying the exact opposite. Humble, well liked backstage, requested to go to FCW to improve, etc.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:29 PM   #236
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first things u see on WWE website is Big Show choking CM Punk...but releases Bryan Danielson for choking some1 ese a week ago...lol wtf??

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Was the choke legit? Was Roberts injured?
Realistically, we don't know. All we can guess is that WWE didn't know Danielson was going to do it.
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So to recap, it seems Danielson was legitly fired for choking Justin Roberts with his tie. Either Danielson did not know he couldn't do this, which I find hard to believe, or he just wasn't thinking. To make matters worse, Mattel complained about the incident and the WWE had to respond accordingly. Roberts did not know beforehand that he was going to be choked??
why would mattel complain about it?
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I'd love to hear Michaels' take on this, assuming it's legit.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:30 PM   #240
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What gets me is that the reports immediately following Raw was that Vince and Steph were very happy about the way it all went.

Internet reporting is shit, I know, but surely the rumblings of discontent regarding the breaking of the 'choking rules' (heh heh) would have been there. Then there's the point about it being shown at all by the producers.

Also with Danielson at FCW on Wednesday, it would seem that this all must have happened since then as why risk having him do a similar thing in a similar angle there - televised or not, it was always going to show up that he was there.

All I know is, that I've not been this tuned in to latest developments about news on a living wrestler, probably ever.
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