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Old 05-05-2004, 05:11 PM   #1
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So if it's old it sucks?
No, not at all. I just love watching the same thing over and over again. It's just so exciting.
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:15 PM   #2
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No, not at all. I just love watching the same thing over and over again. It's just so exciting.
You must really hate finishers then.
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:20 PM   #3
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You must really hate finishers then.
No, that's not true. It's just I'm really excited by people who have a limited moveset. But hey, I should give him some credit. Remember his match at No Way Out? In 2003? Wasn't that awesome?!?
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:23 PM   #4
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No, that's not true. It's just I'm really excited by people who have a limited moveset. But hey, I should give him some credit. Remember his match at No Way Out? In 2003? Wasn't that awesome?!?
Remember Ric Flair and Bret Hart using the same moveset for 15 years?
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Remember Ric Flair and Bret Hart using the same moveset for 15 years?
oh, now i understand. you are on crack.
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:13 PM   #6
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oh, now i understand. you are on crack.
Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.
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Old 05-06-2004, 07:46 AM   #7
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Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.
You should. Not only was he the better half of one of a great tag team, at the end of WCW, he was a truly great, great heel. He had more talent in him than most of the people that will be considered legends in 10 years such as Austin (Stone Cold, Stunning Steve, it doesn't matter - Scott was better) and Rock (Sorry, RB). Promoters were trying for years to get him to cut Rick and become a single superstar. I'd say if he hadn't injured himself in '94, he'd be one of the guys people said revolutionized pro wrestling.

Steiner was one of the guys who really got gimped by WWE when they came in. Others were Raven, Booker, and DDP. Look at that: Raven, Booker, DDP, Scott Steiner. Throw in Jeff Jarrett and you've got pretty much the whole main event scene of WCW near the end. And where are they? Steiner's gone, Raven's in the world title scene in TNA, Booker's jobbing to Undertaker, and DDP jobbed to Undertaker's wife.

And really, Steiner's too fragile? What about Triple H?
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oh, now i understand. you are on crack.
Okay Bret Hart and Ric Flair didn't use the same limited movesets for 15 years then?

Either they did or they didn't dude. No point in calling me a dick over it now is there?


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Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.
Neither would I and if you read what I wrote, I never did say he was. What I said was you can't use the arguement of limited movesets to say people suck when Flair and Hart did it for 15 years and they are bonafide greats.

I believe Scott Steiner as a heel on Smackdown is marketable. Especially when they lack star power on that brand. Now if you disagree then that's fine. It's only an opinion.

Yeah he can't work well anymore. He can't work long matches. Then how about this for an idea... DON'T MAKE HIM WORK LONG MATCHES!!! Why people make pro wrestling out to be more complicated than brain surgery is mind blowing. Play to peoples strong points. It is a work after all.
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I should give him some credit. Remember his match at No Way Out? In 2003? Wasn't that awesome?!?
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