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#761 |
VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT
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damn had this down as 2-0
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#762 |
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Wow wonder what score this is going to finish. They're attacking well at pace now. Fun 2nd half
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#763 |
I'm all there is
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Beatdown city rght now
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#764 |
I'm all there is
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5-0.
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#765 |
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Next weeks Brazil v Portugal looks so much more exciting after this game. 7-0.
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#766 |
The Classic Dylan Staples
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Best Korea
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#767 |
Over Like Rover
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Don't agree with that Behrami red card at all.
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#768 |
Narc stole my star
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Match of the WC thus far.
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#769 |
One Of A Kind
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#770 |
The People's Member
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Why doesn't Paul Scholes get any stick for not playing for England? Wayne Rooney clearly isn't the same player for England as he is for Manchester United, and Scholes is clearly still a world-class midfielder for United. Isn't there a possibility that playing Scholes instead of Frank Lampard might help Rooney be the beast for England that he is for United?
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#771 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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He retired in 2004. According to Wikipedia he didn't have that long of a career with England at just 7 years (1997-2004). He also had the tendency to pick up too many cards during competitions similar to Rooney.
England's problem is they want to make Rooney their main striker but their play style or formation doesn't allow that to be possible constantly with the type of players they have on the field. |
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#772 |
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I know he retired, and that's my point. He is obviously still as capable as ever to play for England, and would seemingly be the best fit to play with Rooney.
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#773 |
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I have more respect for Scholes turning down the offer than Carragher for accepting it.
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#774 |
Rt Hon Ed Balls MP
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Scholes retired after Euro 2004 when we had this "OH MY GOD, THERE ARE NO LEFT FOOTED ENGLISH PLAYERS" crisis (like we still have now) coupled with the "LAMPARD AND GERRARD ARE THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD AND MUST NEVER BE DROPPED" (like we still have now) which resulted in Scholes (right footed and a better central midfielder than Gerrard or Lampard) being played on the left wing for Euro 2004. From what I remember he was shit and got fed up and retired.
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#775 |
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If only Trevor Sinclair was still in the squad.
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#776 |
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Get in South Africa
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#777 |
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Oh dear France
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#778 |
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oh dear, oh dear
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#779 |
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Looks like things are going to turn interesting if South Africa score a few more goals
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#780 |
Narc stole my star
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#781 |
The People's Member
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So what Rob Ban Fan is saying is basically that Scholes could in fact be the missing link for England but that he has chosen not to play because of a bad experience with a manager who has been twice replaced now? I can understand that playing internationally is a huge time commitment, but it's a little surprising that he doesn't get any flack for not playing.
I would think that England would try to build itself as much like Manchester United as possible, rather than whatever they have going on now. |
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#782 |
Tîm Defaid
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Put a few bets on at half time. Malouda to score next came in. Now need a 2-2 final to win like £200. Come on
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#783 | |
Rt Hon Ed Balls MP
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#784 |
Tîm Defaid
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Damn French.
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#785 | |
All Part Of The Plan
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#786 |
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Good ol French twats.
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#787 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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What the hell is wrong with Ribery's face? did he get smacked in the face with a rake or something?
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#788 |
LUV CABBAGE/H8 JEWS
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When he was two years old, he and his family were involved in a car accident in his hometown, colliding with a truck.[4] Ribéry suffered serious facial injuries that resulted in over one hundred stitches and left two long scars down the right side of his face.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Rib%C3%A9ry Also, I'm so glad France is out. |
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#789 |
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Greeks are a fucking disgrace here..out as it stand with 20 minutes to go and still not even trying to attack Argentina.
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#790 |
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Works for them, it's how they won Euro 2004. It's no fun to watch but I don't know why the commentators are moaning, it's nothing new.
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#791 |
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It worked in Euro 04 because none of the bigger teams thought of using that formation as a way to win since its more of a traditional formation done in league cups by smaller teams to hope for an upset or in some league a "replay".
Greece's problem was by the time of 2006 qualifiers, most of the tougher teams figured out how to break down their defensive formation while Greece never bothered to switch and caused their matches to be "boring". |
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#792 |
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It worked at Euro 2004 because they got lucky in the knockout stages They should have lost to France, the Czechs and Portugal.
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#793 |
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Nigeria-South Korea was a really good match.
Argentina vs Mexico playoff match set for 2nd World Cup in a row (2-1 OT). |
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#794 |
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Yes the objective in those games was to avoid defeat, tonight with 20 minutes to go a goal would have put them into the next round and they still just resolutely defended like pricks before Argentina broke them down.
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#795 |
Triple A
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Regarding the whole John Terry thing, he fucked himself over the minute he started talking about himself as being a born leader and all that self aggrandising shite. As a columnist in the Times said today, he essentially did a Scargill. Might well've spoken for a fair few of the players beforehand, but as soon as he made it about him, he showed his true colours and lost said support in an instant.
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#796 |
Pelvic Sorcerer
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#797 |
Over Like Rover
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Their objective in every game seems to be avoid defeat, no matter what the situation is. Seems to be all Rehagel is willing to attempt with them. They didn't really attack at Euro 2004, just seemed to rely mainly on set pieces.
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#798 |
Over Like Rover
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#799 |
Tîm Defaid
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Come on, winning 3 knock out games isn't luck. They had a game plan and executed it perfectly. Unfortunately for them, it just isn't sustainable and haven't bothered to try much else.
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#800 |
Over Like Rover
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They've been playing the same way for like 9 years and that's the only thing resembling success that they've had (albeit a big success) Of course they executed their plan well. But in order for them to win games (and especially a tournament) with that plan, they need luck. The amount of wasted chances from other teams that year was shocking. They obviously didn't win strictly by luck, you have to give them credit for being so disciplined, but without it, they wouldn't have gone past the quarter finals.
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