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Old 07-06-2010, 03:15 PM   #81
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Brock's legs are the leanest part of his body and can be used as a target. The problem is just getting enough damage in before he realizes your game plan, adjusts accordingly, and hulk smashed your face off.

I think that Cain has more strength than people are giving him credit for in this fight, but I just think that Brock is going to be way too much for him. If he can avoid the takedown, then he'll have a hell of a chance. But Brock is the better wrestler, has more size, and has more strength. If Cain is going to do this, he's going to have to somehow get it to a 3rd or 4th round when (assumingly) Brock will be gassed out. That's also assuming that Cains gas tank will allow him to still be rather fresh in the later rounds as well.
It's not about better wrestling though, as it's only part of the game in MMA, and mostly is comes down to takedowns and takedown defense. Even if Brock gets on top, there is a more than a good chance Cain can surivive, Herring did it. Cain has a granite chin aswell. Cain can use his speed, and wrestling to tire Brock out, much like Randy did laying on the bottom. And Once Brock has tired, Cain will be able to pick him apart standing. Which, if he can do, he will more than likely win.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:16 PM   #82
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:17 PM   #83
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Yeah, Brock will reign as sumpeme champion for the next 100 years.
Not sure if you were trying to be some huge asshole with that comment, but that's obviously not what I was saying. Just because I don't think that Brock is going to lose against Cain doesn't mean that I don't think that he'll lose ever.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:18 PM   #84
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It wasn't directed toward you, and you actually have knowledge in what your talking about, and don't think Brock is an indestructable smaching machine.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:22 PM   #85
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It's not about better wrestling though, as it's only part of the game in MMA, and mostly is comes down to takedowns and takedown defense. Even if Brock gets on top, there is a more than a good chance Cain can surivive, Herring did it. Cain has a granite chin aswell. Cain can use his speed, and wrestling to tire Brock out, much like Randy did laying on the bottom. And Once Brock has tired, Cain will be able to pick him apart standing. Which, if he can do, he will more than likely win.
Herring survived on the ground with Brock in his second fight in the UFC. It has been noted time and time again how much better Brock gets after every fight. Brock ended Carwin within 1 minute of getting him to the ground. Also, it seemed fairly apparent in the Herring fight that Brock was content with just beating the fuck out of him for 3 rounds because of all the smack that was being talked.

Also, with all this talk of Lesnar eventually gassing... Have we seen this happen yet? I'm fairly certain that we haven't and he's gone the distance in a 3 round fight. 5 rounds is of course different but I don't really see him getting so gassed he's almost falling over or anything. The guy seems pretty smart about how he uses his energy. Dunno
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He was gassing in the Harring fight.
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If Cain DOES win this fight though, I could see him ending it by submission.
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He was tiring in round two against Couture, as Randy made it very hard for Brock to keep him down, and made him keep working. Those huge muscles take alot of energy and oxygen to power.
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If Cain DOES win this fight though, I could see him ending it by submission.
I see it by submission or decision most likey. I think it's going to be a battle, and I wouldn't bet on either one to be honest.
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Well starting to tire and completely gassing out are two different things. He might have been tired in the Herring fight, but it obviously wasn't overcoming or anything. I mean, the guy immediately jumped to his feet, laughed in Herring's face, and then hogtied him with an invisible lasso.

In all honesty though, I think the guy has pretty scary cardio for a man of his size. He is now on the most strict diet that he's ever been on. He knows his body well now, especially after everything that has happened. I just don't see his cardio being a huge factor in his next fight. If it happens to turn out that way, I'll eat my hat, but until then I'll stand by my gut feeling. The guy is just an anomoly.
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im just going to say this... I dont really want to go into it now but for future record I want to say that I can see Cain, with the skills and attributes he has shown, beating lesnar badly if he can get off first and impose his game.

However I am completely aware that if lesnar gets him down first the fight will be over right then.
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Cena could beat him.
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