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Old 07-08-2010, 06:33 PM   #361
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Also don't forget the whole thinking

"This guy hasn't won anything... So why does he get to do this?"
To be fair, I think this particular ordeal is beyond the whole championship thing. I think people would find it pretty ridiculous and self important no matter who the fuck did it.
If Derek Jeter, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady or any other popular athlete with a bunch of rings went out and did this, the criticisms would likely be the same.
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It really doesn't though.
I argee and disargee.

I think it's wrong to devalue regular season stuff, because then why even play the regular season?

But yeah that is right. No matter what regular season stuff is far secondary to rings and post seasons accomplishments no matter what. Especially in the NBA where it's all about Championships to define how great a player is.
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Football is similar too, I think.

Baseball is a bit different. One player doesn't typically general and entire squad the same way, so you have players defined by their individual play throughout their career and seasons rather than just rings.
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Football is similar too, I think.

Baseball is a bit different. One player doesn't typically general and entire squad the same way, so you have players defined by their individual play throughout their career and seasons rather than just rings.
Really in football you only define QB by Championships. Also it kind hurts since a player only plays half the time with the whole Offense/defense thing.

And yeah in baseball no matter how great one player is he can't do it himself or even get to the playoffs. Since a player only gets to bat 3 or 4 times at most, and the ball is only going to be to hit to a player a few times.

So really basketball is the one sport where One guy affects the most things on the playing field. Therefore it's the sport where one player will take the most criticism.
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I argee and disargee.

I think it's wrong to devalue regular season stuff, because then why even play the regular season?

But yeah that is right. No matter what regular season stuff is far secondary to rings and post seasons accomplishments no matter what. Especially in the NBA where it's all about Championships to define how great a player is.
I mean regular season is important, but not to a guy's legacy. Rings are why we talk about Bird and Magic and Jordan and Russell, but you never hear a thing about Baylor and Malone. Shit you can win one ring and people still won't talk about you. Nobody ever talks about Oscar Robertson anymore, and he might be the greatest ever.
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Where the fuck were all you chumps during the regular season? I was stuck here with SammyG and Dave Wadding
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SammyG and Dave Wadding combined to form a powerful sports fan repellent, keeping any and all intelligent conversation away from this thread
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With Oscar to someone would play the "He couldn't win without Kareem" card. Just like people will say about Lebron with Dwade(if he goes). Still though that's probably better then not having any rings at all.

Because having a ring/and or rings is the only thing that matters.

The only individul record that even matters is Wilt's 100 point game. I would even say Kareem's record is pretty close to being meaningless. Hardly anyone cares about it.
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Hey I have been consistent.
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I believe Lebron will announce that because he can't manage to win a championship in the NBA, his lawyer managed to find a loophole that will allow him to sign with the WNBA.
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I dunno NBA Season Threads always seem a bit too homer happy for my liking. Especially when you don't have a dog in the fight. Too much chest bumping to really get involved.
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I dunno NBA Season Threads always seem a bit too homer happy for my liking. Especially when you don't have a dog in the fight. Too much chest bumping to really get involved.
I thought you were a Cavs fan?
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I dunno NBA Season Threads always seem a bit too homer happy for my liking. Especially when you don't have a dog in the fight. Too much chest bumping to really get involved.
But where would the MLB thread be without daily updates on the state of the Mets, Orioles and Cubs from Vito, Droford and Wadding respectively?
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I thought you were a Cavs fan?
Nah. I watched a lot of their games this year since they were on Fox Sports, but I'm just a well wisher.

Location wise it'd make more sense for me to be a Pacers fan anyway.
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But where would the MLB thread be without daily updates on the state of the Mets, Orioles and Cubs from Vito, Droford and Wadding respectively?
That doesn't bother me since I'm a baseball stat junkie. What turns me off to threads is when they turn into pissing contests. I get that way with the NFL Thread sometimes too.
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CNBC is reporting that contrary to earlier reports, LeBron James is not expected to make his announcement within the first 15 minutes of Thursday's 'The Decision' show.


Not too shocking, and actually makes more sense if he waits until the end of the show. In other LeBron news, Ric Bucher said on Twitter that of the seven insiders he spoke with today (GMs, agents, team officials), four said he's going to Cleveland and the other three said New York. Despite the fact ESPN has been reporting he's likely to go to Miami, not one of Bucher's sources mentioned the Heat.
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What's the penalty for a GM releasing false information? I would love any team that announced they had reached a sign and trade agreement with the Cavs 15 minutes before the special begins.
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Wonder what the ratings are going to be for the special. I fucking hate the entire scenario, and yet I'm going to be watching anyway.
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Lebron's going to take 45 minutes to drive the stake through Cleveland first
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Where was I when Delonte West banged LeBrons mom? Seriously, I just heard of this now.

Also some man is claiming to be LeBrons daddy.
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I bet 1st 15 minutes is going to be a video highlight of his early life or early basketball experience up until his time with the Cavs. Then another 15 minutes of him giving a speech either talking about teams who wanted him or a big thank you to the sponsors. Followed by another 15 minutes of him talking about all the teams who wanted him and what they could offer that made him listen.

Then he uses the last 15 minutes to pull out a bunch of team hats or jerseys and makes his decision after a dramatic pause followed by reporter questions on why he made his decision to go to his new team.
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and I was in here a lot for the playoffs Juan. I never post much in any regular season threads
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I had heard he was going to aswer this question in the first 10 mins, and then have an interview with either Jim Gray or Michael Wilbon.

But again this is why I am believing nothing.
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He's going to spend 50 minutes talking about how much Cleveland and Ohio means to him, and then just when it looks like hes coming back, BAM he rips his shirt of to expose a Knicks jersey. His theme music hits and he leaves to a course of cheering New Yorkers who have gathered about the Connecticut Boys and Girls club.
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I had heard he was going to aswer this question in the first 10 mins, and then have an interview with either Jim Gray or Michael Wilbon.

But again this is why I am believing nothing.
Michael Wilbon is an idiot. I hate hearing his opinions, which are well known "facts" the way he presents them. He just used to annoy me, but if I ever saw him I'd spit and punch him in the face and ask how they do in Chicago then.
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Michael Wilbon is an idiot. I hate hearing his opinions, which are well known "facts" the way he presents them. He just used to annoy me, but if I ever saw him I'd spit and punch him in the face and ask how they do in Chicago then.
Ok bit unncessary, but ok.
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Why, he acts like he's a bad man all the time, "You know what I would do if I saw someone act like that, I'd deck them". because he's from southside chicago, so look out.
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I hope he stays in Cleveland now and all of this was for nothing.
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Michael Wilbon isn't nearly assertive enough to be hated. He's just a guy who talks.
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He might actually be more hated if he stays with Cleveland now.
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Why, he acts like he's a bad man all the time, "You know what I would do if I saw someone act like that, I'd deck them". because he's from southside chicago, so look out.
Becuase I was only tallking about random speculation.
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